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Barefootx
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30. July 2004 @ 07:45 |
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Anyone had any experience with the NEC ND 2510A Dual Layer drive.
I am building a new computer and want the latest equipment. The dual layer Drives are the up-coming drives. I now have the Pioneer 105. Have had very
Good luck with it and Decryptor, DVD2One, Nero 6.
Thanks for your thoughts....Barefoot
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30. July 2004 @ 10:42 |
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It's a very popular cheap drive. Do a search, there must be a few hundred or so posts/opinions.
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30. July 2004 @ 11:11 |
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I have this drive nyself you can not go wrong with it
John179
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Barefootx
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30. July 2004 @ 13:33 |
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Has anyone actually burned a dual layer disk?
Thanks for your Info.
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30. July 2004 @ 13:43 |
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Barefootx
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30. July 2004 @ 15:52 |
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Thanks to All. Think I will stick with the Pioneer-107.
Disk are much to expensive at 15 bux each. Considering
Maxell, Memorex, TDK etc are about .50 now.
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30. July 2004 @ 16:09 |
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Disk are much to expensive at 15 bux each
But these will drop in price very quickly to compete with single layer once these are in regular supply.
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30. July 2004 @ 19:57 |
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But these will drop in price very quickly to compete with single layer once these are in regular supply.
Absolutely true but by then the second generation DL drives will be out. That's when I'm buying into this DL business :)
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30. July 2004 @ 20:00 |
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But these will drop in price very quickly to compete with single layer once these are in regular supply.
Maybe next year, but not to $.50 levels.
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31. July 2004 @ 03:17 |
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Nephilim i hope many think like yourself as this will help to force down the prices.If DL media gets off to a rocky start becuase of price the makers will be forced to sell cheaper.Look at the price of single layer at the moment they are getting cheaper and cheaper this is in anticipation of the DL media in the pipe line.
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Barefootx
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31. July 2004 @ 10:54 |
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Will the pioneer 107D be upgradeable by firmware
and be capable of burning the DL Disk. I have read
sommwhere on this board that suggest that was possible.
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31. July 2004 @ 11:13 |
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Will the pioneer 107D be upgradeable by firmware
Have a read at the link at the bottom of this post when you have a minute.You will get all the latest on firware for your drive from there.
John179
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Barefootx
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31. July 2004 @ 16:18 |
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Thank you Gentleman a bunch for the help.
You have saved me hours of trying to find
answers...
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Barefootx
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31. July 2004 @ 16:18 |
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Thank you Gentleman a bunch for the help.
You have saved me hours of trying to find
answers...
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31. July 2004 @ 16:23 |
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No problem rumour is iam being vetted for the preds job.
Anytime
John179
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Barefootx
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31. July 2004 @ 16:32 |
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GOOD LUCK TO YA !! You get my vote !!
barefoot
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ScubaPete
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31. July 2004 @ 16:42 |
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Thanks to All. Think I will stick with the Pioneer-107
Actually barefootx, you are in a very nice place to be purchasing a drive. Right now you can buy a D/L burner from Lite-on or Nec for somewhere in the $70.00 to $90.00 (USD) and burn all, the $.50 RitekG04's you want and when the D/L discs drop in price, you'll already have the drive to burn that too. Otherwise, you'll buy your 107 now and then spend your money a second time when you want your D/L burner.
Will the 107 ever get a hacked firmware to burn D/L ? No one knows - certainly Pioneer won't ever release a firmware for it, it would ruin their soon-to-be-released D/L drive -
Were I in your place, I'd go for the D/L burner tomorrow -
cheers,
Pete
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31. July 2004 @ 16:49 |
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Take the mans advice i didn't and still purchased the NEC DL for peanuts.If that advise of Scuba had been available at the time of purchase i would have took it.
John179
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Barefootx
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31. July 2004 @ 16:53 |
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I think I saw the NEC drive for 74 bux at Newegg.com.
That is where I am buying Mb,Processor, video,memory
etc for the new computer. Am running a p-3 800 now
and building a p4 3.2. Will consider your opinion
and probably go with the NEC. Thanks
Barefoot Sunshine State USA
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31. July 2004 @ 17:04 |
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Good choice i have had 3 dvd writers in my time pioneer Lite-on and NEC of which i have still got the last 2 drives.Ask me if i would swap for another drive from the firm who made the first one.Not on your nelly it would really have to be something special to change my mind.Pioneer drives are ok but nothing special and as scuba says there not over keen on firmware updates.
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ScubaPete
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31. July 2004 @ 17:12 |
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as scuba says there not over keen on firmware updates
Please there John ole buddy,
What I said was Pioneer wouldn't release a firmware for the 107 to burn D/L discs. The Pioneer 107 probably has more firmware, Company and Hacked, than any other drive on the market -
Please don't mis-quote me -
Thanks,
Pete
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31. July 2004 @ 18:09 |
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I will tell you something about pioneer firmware updates.They do put out some firmware updates and 90% of the time they work but you get to many hacked ones.It is like NEC they could put one out for the 2500 for DL but swear it would mess up the drive.But everyone knows the 2510a is a 2500 with upgraded firmware on it.The problem is with pioneer it is so popular there is so maney hacked versions of firmware it is unbeleivable and this is its main down fall.So many do not work and totally mess up your drive.Even pioneer themselves put a firmware out for the drive i had which was not down gradeable.We all know drives act in differant ways depending on what there attached to.So if it did not work out for you it was tuff wait until the next update came out.After i updated from pioneer web site i could never get it back to the firmware i purchased it with.My fault for ignoring this but it told me it would improve the drive instead it made it worse.So you can see why iam not a lover of the pioneer drives.If as i use to believe pioneer is so good it would be one of the front runners like sony and others and have the DL drive on the market.Instead it is probably pondering around getting the firmware together.
PS my apolgies Pete i did not have any intention of quoteing you
Regards
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ScubaPete
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1. August 2004 @ 12:04 |
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Well John,
I think the main problem is the pple who have Pioneers keep trying to "tweak" it too much with Hacked firmware. I used one hacked firmware to raise the burning speed from 4X to 8X - seeing all the problems that caused I shouldn't have tried it in the first place.
Unlike many others, I stopped there. I have heard of pple who have flashed their drive on a weekly basis and then wondered why it ran sooooo poorly -
AFA the drive in general, I agree, it's a middle of the road drive, nothing special BUT if treated will do it's job with some degree of dependability -
I am however, looking forward to seeing how their D/L drive performs. They will be the first ones to raise the D/L burning speed from 2.4X up to 4X, a fairly nice plus in my estimation :)
Pete
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ScubaPete
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1. August 2004 @ 13:54 |
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No problem rumour is iam being vetted for the preds job.
Hey there "Big" John, what's "the preds job" ??
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Barefootx
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1. August 2004 @ 16:26 |
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While I am getting all geared up here..a few more
plucks from your brain..Have read that nero6 would
not burn the d/l format. But 5.5 would.. Any
experience with this ? Thanks
barefoot
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