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How to force Windows 10 upgrade
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article published on 5 August, 2015
Are you still waiting for your free upgrade to Windows 10? It may take days or weeks to be ready for you, but if you don't want to wait then maybe this can help.
NOTE: These instructions require that you edit the Windows registry in Windows 7 or Windows 8.1, and that you have been offered (and have reserved) your free upgrade. You are completely responsible for your actions. Please also ... [ read the full article ]
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5. August 2015 @ 08:43 |
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I'm just waiting for mine. The upgrade isn't going to enhance what I use my computer for so there's no hurry. Besides, it's not worth the hassle!
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aw2600
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5. August 2015 @ 09:53 |
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I just tried this method on my cheapo HP Stream 7 tablet. I had reserved Windows 10 but was not receiving an "upgrade ready" notice. The AllowOSUpgrade registry key was already present and was already set to the correct value. I just followed the instructions in Step 4 to start the Windows 10 download.
The download has finished. Windows Update says "preparing to install". Let's hope this works. If not, I have already created recovery media to a USB drive so that I can restore Windows 8.1.
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5. August 2015 @ 10:19 |
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Seems like a lot of hassle. I went here and downloaded the media creation tool. Worked like a charm on 5 computers running Win 7 or 8.
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aw2600
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5. August 2015 @ 11:58 |
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Not a lot of hassle DarthMopar. It took me less than two minutes to determine that the reg key was present and then start the upgrade. If I had to add the key it would have taken about 30 seconds longer.
Using the media creation tool makes more sense if you have multiple computers to upgrade. In my case, it was just the one. It was easier to let the "Microsoft process" do the upgrade. Besides, this lets me see the automatic process so that I can help family & friends when they have difficulty.
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hearme0
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5. August 2015 @ 12:39 |
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Originally posted by DarthMopar:
Seems like a lot of hassle. I went here and downloaded the media creation tool. Worked like a charm on 5 computers running Win 7 or 8.
AGREED!
I suggest using the link provided by DarthMopar which is the same as this one: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
and download ISO. DO IN PLACE UPGRADE FIRST! Let your computer register install with MS and THEN you can do clean wipe and install and it will reactivate effortlessly right after install is complete.
This is trusted advice and tested by myself on the day of release.
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6. August 2015 @ 08:24 |
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Originally posted by DarthMopar:
Seems like a lot of hassle. I went here and downloaded the media creation tool. Worked like a charm on 5 computers running Win 7 or 8.
Thats the only right option.
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Virgil_B
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6. August 2015 @ 08:53 |
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Originally posted by aw2600:
Not a lot of hassle DarthMopar. It took me less than two minutes to determine that the reg key was present and then start the upgrade. If I had to add the key it would have taken about 30 seconds longer.
Using the media creation tool makes more sense if you have multiple computers to upgrade. In my case, it was just the one. It was easier to let the "Microsoft process" do the upgrade. Besides, this lets me see the automatic process so that I can help family & friends when they have difficulty.
One additional point I would like to make. If you use the media creation tool then you have a completely boot-able copy of Windows 10 should you need it in the future. If you use the upgrade method and wait for Microsoft you still are going to have to create a bootable copy of Windows 10.
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Bros123
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6. August 2015 @ 09:41 |
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I found the easiest way is to start the upgrade is to download the windows tool, run it and start to download either ISO or USB install method. And after it starts to download for about 2 percent just click on upgrade adviser icon and you will find it indicates you can start your upgrade now. Very simple and then you can cancel the tool and it continues to update windows to Windows 10.
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6. August 2015 @ 09:44 |
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The only thing this method has going for it is that it uses the files already downloaded. The MCT re-downloads 5GB, which can take a while if you don't have a 50+Mb connection. The MCT is also the only way to put it onto machines which have NOT been offered the upgrade - such as domain-joined computers.
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cart0181
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6. August 2015 @ 12:37 |
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Originally posted by hearme0:
DO IN PLACE UPGRADE FIRST! Let your computer register install with MS and THEN you can do clean wipe and install and it will reactivate effortlessly right after install is complete.
This is trusted advice and tested by myself on the day of release.
Thanks for this. It answers a question I've had for a few days now. Somewhere it said when I was downloading the MCT to make sure you have your Windows 10 product key BEFORE starting the installation. I'm like... chicken or egg?
In my case, an in-place upgrade was nearly impossible due to space constraints. Fortunately, I was barely able to clear the 5GB required to begin the process. I plan to do a clean install when I get around to puchasing a new SSD and some more HDD storage. I wonder what would have happened if I had done a format? I bet it would have asked for a license key I never had/ didn't receive even though I reserved and was promised a free upgrade!
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6. August 2015 @ 14:56 |
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Originally posted by cart0181:
Originally posted by hearme0:
DO IN PLACE UPGRADE FIRST! Let your computer register install with MS and THEN you can do clean wipe and install and it will reactivate effortlessly right after install is complete.
This is trusted advice and tested by myself on the day of release.
Thanks for this. It answers a question I've had for a few days now. Somewhere it said when I was downloading the MCT to make sure you have your Windows 10 product key BEFORE starting the installation. I'm like... chicken or egg?
In my case, an in-place upgrade was nearly impossible due to space constraints. Fortunately, I was barely able to clear the 5GB required to begin the process. I plan to do a clean install when I get around to puchasing a new SSD and some more HDD storage. I wonder what would have happened if I had done a format? I bet it would have asked for a license key I never had/ didn't receive even though I reserved and was promised a free upgrade!
They do not issue you a key for the free upgrade. You HAVE TO do the in-place upgrade first, because the activation system converts your 7/8/8.1 key to a 10 key (ie: once converted it will no longer activate a 7/8/8.1 install unless you 'downgrade' back to your original version).
So yes, if you had wiped/fresh installed before doing the in-place upgrade, it would have asked you for a key, and your 7/8/8.1 key will not have worked. Had you done so, it would have been purely your fault, as it means you have not read and understood the directions. There are warnings posted EVERYWHERE that you have to do an in-place upgrade BEFORE you can clean install - because the in-place upgrade is the ONLY way to convert your key to activate 10.
Wanna know where you saw the instruction to have your Windows 10 key ready? It's in the MCT instructions - it says that DIRECTLY AFTER the instruction where it says you must do the in-place upgrade BEFORE you can clean install. The reservation process does absolutely nothing besides pre-download the files.
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6. August 2015 @ 15:13 |
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Interesting bit of info allegedly in the Windows 10 ToS.
"Alec Meer of the ?Rock, Paper, Shotgun? blog pointed out this passage in Microsoft?s 12,000-word, 45-page terms of use agreement:
?We will access, disclose and preserve personal data, including your content (such as the content of your emails, other private communications or files in private folders), when we have a good faith belief that doing so is necessary to.?
While most people are used to ads as the price of accessing free content, writes Meer, Microsoft is not making it clear enough that they are ?gathering and storing vast amounts of data on your computing habits,? not just browser data.
Opting out of all these default settings requires navigating 13 different screens and a separate website, the bloggers have found."
source: http://www.rt.com/usa/311304-new-windows-privacy-issues/
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res05cze
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6. August 2015 @ 16:42 |
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Question. If you use the MCT download is your only option a "Clean Install"?
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6. August 2015 @ 18:28 |
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I am just going to wait, although some good info posted. I already have it running on my tablet, and not in any rush on my Win 7 Ultimate computers.
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6. August 2015 @ 18:32 |
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Originally posted by res05cze:
Question. If you use the MCT download is your only option a "Clean Install"?
Way to pay attention. This has been addressed in no less than three previous comments.
No. In fact, had you read my last comment AND/OR the instructions for MCT (which were linked to earlier), you'd see that an in-place upgrade is REQUIRED FIRST, BEFORE A CLEAN INSTALL to change your key over to 10 for the free upgrade
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justchuck69
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7. August 2015 @ 01:37 |
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Originally posted by DarthMopar:
Seems like a lot of hassle. I went here and downloaded the media creation tool. Worked like a charm on 5 computers running Win 7 or 8.
Yeah i downloaded that tool and will be creating the media ( most likely on a dvd but i do have a 32 and 3 16 gb but use them for video files ) but will not install win 10 for at least 60 days ( that is why i will most likely use a dvd ) for all the others to work out most of the bugs first ( i do not want to work for Microsoft for free i will let the other guys to do it lol )
Good Luck and Take Care
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tsage
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9. August 2015 @ 11:30 |
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I did a upgrade from Windows 8.1 to Windows 10 using the MCT with no w problems. I used Key Finder to identify the product key. I then made a bootable flash drive from the .iso and did a clean install after formatting my hard drive. A clean install has always been my preference. During the clean install, when requested to enter the product key, click on ?skip this step? and the next time when requested to enter the product key. Click on ?do this later?. You can also enter the Windows 10 product key when requested. Either way worked for me. Once the installation is complete go to Control Panel, click on System and you will see that Windows is activated. Checked the product key. Same as the one shown in the upgrade. Now as to you statement that once you do the upgrade your Windows 7/8 product key is deactivated, I am going to disagree with that and here is why. I am retired and have plenty of time to check things. I also use Acronis True Image to make images of my hard drive and I can restore a image in about 7 minutes. Once again I formatted my hard drive and installed Windows 8.1 using the installation disk and original product key and Windows 8.1 was activated.
This is based on my actually having done this.
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cart0181
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11. August 2015 @ 06:17 |
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Originally posted by tsage:
I used Key Finder to identify the product key. I then made a bootable flash drive from the .iso and did a clean install after formatting my hard drive.
Is this the only way for free upgraders to get a clean install? They need to use a utility to find their product key so they have it during the install?
Originally posted by tsage:
During the clean install, when requested to enter the product key, click on ?skip this step? and the next time when requested to enter the product key. Click on ?do this later?. You can also enter the Windows 10 product key when requested. Either way worked for me. Once the installation is complete go to Control Panel, click on System and you will see that Windows is activated. Checked the product key. Same as the one shown in the upgrade.
I think this is because MS has identified your hardware and recognized that you already "own" a product key for that hardware, which it then inputs for you. So using Key Finder was ultimately unnecessary. I imagine it made you feel "safer" during the install process knowing you had the Product Key already in case it actually WAS required. It sounds like something I would have done too! :)
So... does someone want to detail how MS identifies your hardware? Do they still use the point system which makes it possible to hardware-upgrade-your-way out of your license key?
I still think it sucks that you need to do the in-place upgrade first. What if I couldn't clear 5GB of storage no matter how hard I tried? Screwed? Reserving your free copy using GWX.exe should do more than just download some files ffs. It should actually "reserve" your copy as it says it is doing. It's all lies apparently.
And NO, Tazmaniak, MS does not "convert" morph or otherwise transform your product key from Win7/8. MS simply issues you a Win10 key. sheesh
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11. August 2015 @ 08:21 |
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Originally posted by cart0181:
Originally posted by tsage:
I used Key Finder to identify the product key. I then made a bootable flash drive from the .iso and did a clean install after formatting my hard drive.
Is this the only way for free upgraders to get a clean install? They need to use a utility to find their product key so they have it during the install?
Originally posted by tsage:
During the clean install, when requested to enter the product key, click on ?skip this step? and the next time when requested to enter the product key. Click on ?do this later?. You can also enter the Windows 10 product key when requested. Either way worked for me. Once the installation is complete go to Control Panel, click on System and you will see that Windows is activated. Checked the product key. Same as the one shown in the upgrade.
I think this is because MS has identified your hardware and recognized that you already "own" a product key for that hardware, which it then inputs for you. So using Key Finder was ultimately unnecessary. I imagine it made you feel "safer" during the install process knowing you had the Product Key already in case it actually WAS required. It sounds like something I would have done too! :)
So... does someone want to detail how MS identifies your hardware? Do they still use the point system which makes it possible to hardware-upgrade-your-way out of your license key?
I still think it sucks that you need to do the in-place upgrade first. What if I couldn't clear 5GB of storage no matter how hard I tried? Screwed? Reserving your free copy using GWX.exe should do more than just download some files ffs. It should actually "reserve" your copy as it says it is doing. It's all lies apparently.
And NO, Tazmaniak, MS does not "convert" morph or otherwise transform your product key from Win7/8. MS simply issues you a Win10 key. sheesh
No, tardo. Once your computer has been upgraded, the 7/8/8.1 key is NO LONGER VALID TO ACTIVATE THE ORIGINAL OS.
And seriously if you can't clear 5GB off your hard drive, someone should smash you over the head with a tack hammer. Go spend $3 on a friggin 8GB thumb drive. Hell, do a drive cleanup and dump all the old restore points. That's usually good for at least 10GB.
"Sheesh."
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14. August 2015 @ 09:40 |
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Originally posted by TaZMaNiaK:
No, tardo. Once your computer has been upgraded, the 7/8/8.1 key is NO LONGER VALID TO ACTIVATE THE ORIGINAL OS.
And seriously if you can't clear 5GB off your hard drive, someone should smash you over the head with a tack hammer. Go spend $3 on a friggin 8GB thumb drive. Hell, do a drive cleanup and dump all the old restore points. That's usually good for at least 10GB.
"Sheesh."
Any particular reason you felt the need to lace your response with insults?
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14. August 2015 @ 10:25 |
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Originally posted by DarthMopar:
Originally posted by TaZMaNiaK:
No, tardo. Once your computer has been upgraded, the 7/8/8.1 key is NO LONGER VALID TO ACTIVATE THE ORIGINAL OS.
And seriously if you can't clear 5GB off your hard drive, someone should smash you over the head with a tack hammer. Go spend $3 on a friggin 8GB thumb drive. Hell, do a drive cleanup and dump all the old restore points. That's usually good for at least 10GB.
"Sheesh."
Any particular reason you felt the need to lace your response with insults?
Keyboard warriors have invaded AD! EVERYONE RUN AWAY AS FAST AS YOU CAN!!
Because I hate stupid people?
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ddp
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14. August 2015 @ 11:20 |
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like you?
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14. August 2015 @ 13:32 |
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Originally posted by ddp:
like you?
I'm not the one complaining about not being able to clear 5GB off his hard drive.
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ddp
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14. August 2015 @ 14:59 |
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so what as that is why we are to ask questions, answer those questions & learn from those answers & questions for future use. hence my saying "teach & learn".
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