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Making the new iPhone costs more than ever

article published on 21 September, 2016

Apple's equipment has never come cheap, and there has always been a cheaper hardware version of the same product. This means couple of things. First, Apple knows their real power is in the software and secondly that profits are off the roof. The new iPhone is certainly not an exception in this manner. The software can only be found on Apple's iPhones and the profits are going to be one ... [ read the full article ]

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hearme0
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23. September 2016 @ 17:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It's still just an Iphone...nothing more, nothing less.
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SoTired
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23. September 2016 @ 23:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The profit calculation here ignores the fact that Apple is having to provide huge subsidies to get people to buy these phones. At least for now, most of the profit is disappearing in the subsidies.

As for several models selling out, that doesn't mean "Apple has pulled out a good release." It's a mediocre release that Apple has managed to sell by throwing cash subsidies at anyone who will take one so the net cost to the user is FREE.
xnonsuchx
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24. September 2016 @ 03:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by SoTired:
The profit calculation here ignores the fact that Apple is having to provide huge subsidies to get people to buy these phones. At least for now, most of the profit is disappearing in the subsidies.

As for several models selling out, that doesn't mean "Apple has pulled out a good release." It's a mediocre release that Apple has managed to sell by throwing cash subsidies at anyone who will take one so the net cost to the user is FREE.

Um...that's not how the subsidies work. Apple still gets their full revenue of the iPhones...it's all about how carriers sell it to customers, which basically pays off the cost of the phone over a (usually) 2-year contract.
SoTired
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24. September 2016 @ 23:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by xnonsuchx:

Um...that's not how the subsidies work. Apple still gets their full revenue of the iPhones...it's all about how carriers sell it to customers, which basically pays off the cost of the phone over a (usually) 2-year contract.
You correctly describe the way carrier subsidies used to work in the US - they used to give you a phone, and you indirectly paid for it through inflated monthly line charges. Not any more. The carriers stopped doing that about a year ago. They started offering lower line charges, and if you want a new phone, they will give you an installment payment option that brings your monthly payment back up in the range that the line charges used to be under the old subsidized system. Or you can keep using your existing phone and stick with the lower monthly line charges. It's all explained here. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/verizon-kil...e-should-worry/


But that's not what's going on with the iPhone 7. With a trade in, they are giving it to you for free; you do not get a higher line charge or a monthly installment payment. (Well, technically, they do put a monthly payment on your bill, but then they give you a full credit for the amount of that payment each month.)

My company just got a boatload of iPhone 7s for our employees, and the carrier reps explained that the credit is being paid for through a subsidy that Apple has paid to the carriers to get people to upgrade to the iPhone 7 or 7 Plus. I can't find any articles that explain the way this is being funded, but the fact that all of the carriers have been giving away a free iPhone 7 with a trade-in for the past month, and the fact that all of the carriers are ending that promotion this week, is consistent with the carrier reps' explanation.
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megadunderhead
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3. October 2016 @ 10:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
yea but you can only upgrade if you have a iPhone 5 5s 6 or 6s they won't let you trade in your iPhone 4s towards the credit which is bull crap considering most users still have a 4s

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