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Core or Cores?(processor)
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LightXxX
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25. December 2010 @ 11:56 |
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I was wondering, is a single core better or more cores better? i know that more cores processes other stuff at same time but a single core can process them all at once, so which is better, Core or Cores?
Also what would you guy recommended a processor for gaming? if you guys answered the question on top of this question and said core(s) is better, which processor for gaming would i get?
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ddp
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25. December 2010 @ 16:09 |
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multi-core is better then a single core. which lets more traffic thru, a 1 road or a 8 lane highway? depends on the game as some prefer intel & others amd.
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LightXxX
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25. December 2010 @ 21:57 |
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Originally posted by ddp:
multi-core is better then a single core. which lets more traffic thru, a 1 road or a 8 lane highway? depends on the game as some prefer intel & others amd.
Well one road is better than 8 lane highway... basically, 8 lane highway cause more troublesome than 1 road...(Crashes and High Speed, and as for a CPU, it burn and it becomes trash)... 1 road lane is better but it's slow and can make everything go through without trouble(If it's a Road/Lane were talking about)... If one core is at 3GHz, and 4 cores is 3GHz, why is all cores so slow? it needed to be combined to make 3GHz... On my bro computer with 4 cores, it's 2.83GHz and on the E-Machine W5243 there's 1 core at 2.4GHz... I can play Counter-Strike:Source and CombatArm with little lag but cant play very will... On my bro computer at 2.83GHz, there's no lags and no problem but it use too much power... It is better but like i said, 4 cores do more stuff but use too much power... Multi-Cores is better but "Which kind of Processer(Intel, No AMD) is best for gaming?" AMD is really the problem the computer's slow... it Doesn't use it full power(i dont get full power too so dont complain)...(Basically, i heard from some forum at some site and they are very technical at computers and said "AMD doesn't use full power and it's reason why it's low price..." They also said "Intel use full power and it's the reason why it cost so much than AMD")
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ddp
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25. December 2010 @ 23:52 |
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were do you get the idea that 1 road is better then a 8 lane highway because that is wrong. the more lanes the faster trafic flows. same goes for a small pipe or a big pipe in moving water, big pipe is better. that is bullshit saying that the amd is to blame for being slow as it has nothing to do with amd or intel but to do with the speed of the cpu\cpu's. your brother's cpu is almost equivalent to a 12ghz single core. my intel dual core is equivalent to a 5.2ghz single core. the main reason for lag on your emachine for playing games is your onboard video that your brother doesn't have. how old are you?
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Baccusboy
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26. December 2010 @ 00:11 |
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More cores is going to be better.
In this day and age, it's not a question of 1 core vs. more, it's a question of 2 cores vs. 4, or more. Single core isn't even on the map these days.
In any case, it depends a lot on the software. Some programs will make use of the multi-cores, and others won't.
In this day and age, I'd consider the most expensive quad core you can afford, choose your flavor (Intel or AMD), but don't actually buy it. Then purchase the next model quad-core down in the chain, and save your extra money to purchase a better video card. THAT is where you will most enjoy a difference in gaming quality.
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ddp
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26. December 2010 @ 00:13 |
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single core is on the map as that is what his emachine has.
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Baccusboy
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26. December 2010 @ 00:27 |
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No, in terms of performance discussions and gaming these days, single core is not on the map. That was the context in which I framed my post. Feel free to go back and read it.
The guy is obviously considering buying a new machine (or at least, he should).
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LightXxX
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26. December 2010 @ 12:19 |
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Originally posted by ddp:
were do you get the idea that 1 road is better then a 8 lane highway because that is wrong. the more lanes the faster trafic flows. same goes for a small pipe or a big pipe in moving water, big pipe is better. that is bullshit saying that the amd is to blame for being slow as it has nothing to do with amd or intel but to do with the speed of the cpu\cpu's. your brother's cpu is almost equivalent to a 12ghz single core. my intel dual core is equivalent to a 5.2ghz single core. the main reason for lag on your emachine for playing games is your onboard video that your brother doesn't have. how old are you?
Im 13 and my bro build his own comp(he has all the stuff he need on it even with Video Card 2GB...), the emachie is separate(another computer)... The emachine W5243 has 1 core and it can barely run crap... The emachine was bought last year and those people that created emachine should get sued for selling an outdated and useless(slow) crap...(It cost $500 for an outdated crap O_o) I could use %500 to buy a laptop at 2.4GHz with 4GB RAM... I F***ken got rip off... Emachine W5243 couldnt even run WarCraft 3 smoothly as it processor said... On a laptop at 2.4GHz with 4GB ram, it run so smooth...(basically i know RAM is the problem but Emachine should get sued for selling $500 for a outdated computer with 1GB ram...) The emachine W5243 should be around 200-300... My bro build his computer for $1500 but he bought a expensive case(Clear Crystal/Plastic case around 300-400) and the monitor for $260 and stuff inside cost $700... E-Machine is useless compare to my bro computer since it's AMD and it's basically useless(Outdated=Slow computer that been around 2 years or so... also no updates(driver update) to make it useful)
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ddp
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26. December 2010 @ 13:27 |
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has nothing to do about amd or intel just that emachine picked amd as presumably cheaper then similar intel cpu.
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LightXxX
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26. December 2010 @ 20:26 |
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Originally posted by ddp:
has nothing to do about amd or intel just that emachine picked amd as presumably cheaper then similar intel cpu.
If it's cheaper, why today it still cost $500? AMD processor like this piece of crap is around $40-%50 and MoBo would be around $50 since it hold 2GB RAM and this crappy processor... and Monitor would be around $100 case would be around $50 mouse and keyboard would be around $50.. what made the Emachine W5243 cost so much($499) or they just ripping us off?
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ddp
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26. December 2010 @ 23:48 |
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what about labor & software?
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LightXxX
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27. December 2010 @ 14:03 |
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Originally posted by ddp:
what about labor & software?
Nah, forget about it... Now let get back to the cores and stuff...
What kind of Dual/Multi Cores is good for gaming, I don't like AMD because AMD really SUCKS...(Not another word about AMD please because like i always say, "It Sucks") i want Intel or anything that has a word "Intel" in it like "Intel Quad Core 2" or other Intel...
(Different question) Does this memory http://www.pricewatch.com/gallery/system_memory/ddr2-675_pc2-5400_1gb fit(work for) eMachine W5243? im asking my bro to buy two of them for the eMachine W5243 and IDK if it really works for the eMachine W5243...
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ddp
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27. December 2010 @ 14:33 |
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the only reason amd sucks is because you don't know any better. amd is supposedly better for gaming then intel is. there are addict status members on this site who prefer amd over intel. don't blame amd for the sucky computer but the person who bought it for not asking you what you are going to use it for or for not checking the capabilities\expandability of that computer. should have no problem with the ram.
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LightXxX
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27. December 2010 @ 16:19 |
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Originally posted by ddp:
the only reason amd sucks is because you don't know any better. amd is supposedly better for gaming then intel is. there are addict status members on this site who prefer amd over intel. don't blame amd for the sucky computer but the person who bought it for not asking you what you are going to use it for or for not checking the capabilities\expandability of that computer. should have no problem with the ram.
The freaken computer isn't mine and it's my sister in law, her parent bought it for her than she married my bro than she game it to the family to use and it's sucks(eMachine)... So the RAM fit and it doesn't have problem Right? BTW is it a 1GB RAM bar or 2 RAM bar to make 1GB? if 1 imma get 1GBx2
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ddp
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27. December 2010 @ 21:44 |
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i presume right now you have 2x512meg sticks of ram so open the tower side panel usually left side when looking from front to see if have 1 or 2 sticks of ram. each slot reads max of 1gig for a total of 2gigs for 2 slots.
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LightXxX
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28. December 2010 @ 00:06 |
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Originally posted by ddp:
i presume right now you have 2x512meg sticks of ram so open the tower side panel usually left side when looking from front to see if have 1 or 2 sticks of ram. each slot reads max of 1gig for a total of 2gigs for 2 slots.
i did that like 2 months ago and the RAM is 512 for each slow with 2 RAM bar... which that is 1GB so does the 1GB RAM bar fit and work well with the eMachines W5243? i will ask my bro to get them if it really work for the eMachines W5243...
What happen if i bought a 1333MHz RAM with 2GB and plug it in? Would it dies or what?(never experienced it) BTW what would happen if i bought a 2GB at 667MHz(single bar) and plug it in? the eMachines W5243 is so over it price from what i see it... $499 for a useless computer without 2GB RAM installed...
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mrslicker
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30. December 2010 @ 02:48 |
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alright lightxxx dude, you should clarify if you want ddr2 or ddr3. they operate on diff. voltage and are not interchangeable. i dont see alot of ddr2 1333, but if thats what you meant get the highest speed the motherboard in question supports. why hate so much on amd. they dont perform as well, i would agree with that; How Ever their enthusiast-line (for lack of a better word) is around 300 or less, compare that to, oh... 1100 dollars, sometimes more for Intel. i can see marketing works just fine on you, or you just accept things without your own investigation. many intel spec parts besides the processors even carry a heftier tag than amd. intel ssd's dont seem great on paper but are still like 3 times more expensive than similar drives from other Companies. i dunno abt power use, but i think of TDP when you say intel cpus use 'more power' and the unnameable has similar output. intel probly has loads more cash to dump into r&d, and therefore also are more willing to take risks.
yes emachine ripped somebody off because they are crap for upgrading, and i plain dont like them.
DDP, i believe i will disagree with you on the analogy of all functioning cores acting equally to a "similarly clocked" cpu, like it would be equal to a 12ghz single core. maybe with optimization, it would be similar. but since the topic was stated as a road ( of which there is no decent choice other than multi-core, and when it comes to "collisions" a cpu is not ethernet ) lets visualize it as a bunch of camrys racing a land-speed-record mustang. they might cover as much ground combined but i dont see their efforts matching the HP demon.
lubricant -> Mr Slicker -> ???
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30. December 2010 @ 11:16 |
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What do you mean i have to "clarify if you want ddr2 or ddr3" It's a DDR2 and i just found the site... Read the spec on it and you'll know the MAX of the MoBo... I dont know the max speed tho since it cant even be OverClocked... No point in getting a faster RAM awhile it cant be OverClocked and i dont know the max so i just need 2GB for the eMachines... What would happen if i added 4GB(2x2GB) to the eMachines W5243? Would it over heat or burn up or not supported or what? I dont get why there's a limit to RAM...
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ddp
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30. December 2010 @ 13:45 |
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the limit on ram is done in the bios so talk to emachine about it as we can't do anything about it. can try 4gigs of ram but will be surprised if it posts past 2gigs or even post at all.
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LightXxX
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30. December 2010 @ 19:47 |
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Originally posted by ddp:
the limit on ram is done in the bios so talk to emachine about it as we can't do anything about it. can try 4gigs of ram but will be surprised if it posts past 2gigs or even post at all.
What happen when i go over the limit. By what you said, it's possible for the 4GB working on the eMachine W5243...
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ddp
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30. December 2010 @ 22:20 |
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it is possible or it is not possible, i don't know except you have a 50/50 chance for either way.
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LightXxX
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30. December 2010 @ 22:32 |
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Originally posted by ddp:
it is possible or it is not possible, i don't know except you have a 50/50 chance for either way.
What would happen if it doesn't work?
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ddp
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30. December 2010 @ 22:39 |
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won't fry(unlikely) but won't post.
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LightXxX
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31. December 2010 @ 00:38 |
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Originally posted by ddp:
won't fry(unlikely) but won't post.
What's POST mean? IDK what you mean by POST too...
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31. December 2010 @ 16:27 |
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