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finding the BOTTLENECK!!! argh
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redZoneOS
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29. July 2009 @ 17:43 |
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i finally upgraded by ip35e and e2160 setup.
OLD SETUP
IP35E
E2160 @ 2.8 Ghz
HD3870
8Gb GSKILL DDR2 800 (4 x 2gb)
500Gb Western Digital SE16
16x burner
performance has certainly improved, but i feel as if the upgrade wasnt "quite" worth it and maybe i have a bottleneck somewhere that is not cpu related... any suggestions??
Only parts upgraded in the new system is mobo and proc.
NEW SETUP
Gigabyte P45-UD3P
Q9550 (no overclock)
everything else same as above.
so what do you think? system still takes longer to boot then it should, and occasional freezes/lag during gaming at 1440 resolution all details max (vsync off)
maybe new gpu? I personally think it may be the HDD... but not sure.. how can i find out what is hurting my performance?
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ddp
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29. July 2009 @ 23:09 |
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30. July 2009 @ 12:29 |
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It might have been overclocked, ddp :P That's usually how I write overclocks, E2160 @ 2.8Ghz, or in my case Q9550 @ 3.65Ghz. The fact he says (no overclock) for his Q9550 makes that almost certain.
I assume you're using Vista, redzone, as no other OS actually needs 8GB of RAM. System startup time is almost entirely defined by what hard drive you have, and how many peripherals are plugged in. Periodic lag will be caused by sequential loading (not all games do this, but Crysis certainly does) or micro/macrostutter, a common problem with the HD3870 graphics card - that's the next upgrade anyway as its now the weakest component in the system for performance.
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1. August 2009 @ 01:43 |
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"I assume you're using Vista, redzone, as no other OS actually needs 8GB of RAM"
-I've seen Linux servers running 128GB. It's not the windows needs the ram, the ram is for programs!
The HD3870 is probably the weakest link. I say probably, as I don't like the onboard network adapter on that mainboard...a similar one caused hickups for me when playing games online. (but did not seem to cause problems when off-line).
Of corse, a half-decent audio card might give you a few % performance boost if you are using 5.1 or 7.1 audio.
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1. August 2009 @ 06:33 |
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Yes but he's not building a server, 8GB for a desktop PC is needless for anything other than vista x64 due to its absurd memory usage. The Ep45-UD3P uses a Realtek NIC to my knowledge, the same as I use in all my PCs with no problems.
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3. August 2009 @ 04:16 |
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Yeah, it's the Realtek 8111C...it sucks up CPU cycles like crazy. Don't get me wrong, I'm not recomending one of those $200 super-NICs, just something with a little bit of hardware processing like the $20 Intel units.
I don't disagree that Vista64 uses too much memory...but if you just want to surf the web, watch videos, etc...then 2GB is more than enough. Anything over that is just for programs, even in vista64.
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3. August 2009 @ 05:13 |
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8 gigs of ram is pretty ridiculous. theres virtually no consumer products that the average computer user uses that would be able to allocate all that ram. but at least you won't have to upgrade your ram for the next five years, LOL.
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3. August 2009 @ 07:25 |
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True, but if you're using vista64, the desktop plus web browsing typically uses 2.2-2.5GB of RAM. Paging to run web browser windows doesn't slow down the system much, but if a big program is opened then it has a severe impact on performance as there's no memory to run it. By contrast Windows 7 will use around 1.5GB of memory for the same operations.
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4. August 2009 @ 04:52 |
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Originally posted by djscoop:
8 gigs of ram is pretty ridiculous. theres virtually no consumer products that the average computer user uses that would be able to allocate all that ram. but at least you won't have to upgrade your ram for the next five years, LOL.
This is true, there are very few SINGLE products that will use that much ram, ignoring the 64-bit monsters like Photoshop, Autodesk, and Solidworks. But windows introduced something very unique when it cam out over 20 years ago, it is called "multitasking". I often have several programs open at once, and the combined memory usage is often enough to max out my 6GB with Win7x64. The only reason I don't get more memory is that I know it will be obsolite as soon as I get my I7 mainboard.
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4. August 2009 @ 07:15 |
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The highest I've pulled off in Win7 is about 3.6GB. The highest in vista is a (would be if i had actually had that much) 6.2GB. I calculated that by taking a figure based on the page file usage.
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