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norverna
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2. November 2010 @ 16:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi all,
I have a Dell 6400 laptop with the following writer -
tsstcorp dvd+ - RW ts-l632d

Will I be able to burn Xbox 360 back ups on it?
It states in the manual - DVD+R Double Layer

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Al


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2. November 2010 @ 17:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If you use the best burning program available (ImgBurn) and decent media (Verbatim), yes.
To see what your burner can do, run ImgBurn and click Tools > Drive > Capabilities.

Note that slim laptop burners are considered somewhat less robust than the burners found in desktops.
norverna
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3. November 2010 @ 01:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi,
Thanks for the response.
Its only till I can afford a decent burner. Not ideal I know.

In terms of getting a burn that works....is there anything I need to do to the drive in the laptop?
Or is it just a case of following a IMGBURN tut on here?
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3. November 2010 @ 05:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If you have the latest firmware, good media and a good burning program the rest is up to the burner.
norverna
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3. November 2010 @ 05:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by attar:
If you have the latest firmware, good media and a good burning program the rest is up to the burner.
So I dont need to change book type or any of that jive?
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3. November 2010 @ 08:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It only applies if you are using DVD+R media.
You have to tell the burning software to apply it.
norverna
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3. November 2010 @ 08:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by attar:
It only applies if you are using DVD+R media.
You have to tell the burning software to apply it.
Ahhh...I am.
The burner specs says -

DVD+R Double Layer - Write - OK, Read - OK, Play - OK

DVD-R Double Layer - Write N/A (Write requires appropriate application software), Read - OK, Play - OK

I am confused....any ideas if it will work and what I need to do to the drive?
I will be using IMGBURN and DVD +R media


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3. November 2010 @ 11:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
My burners have always spelled out that they could burn or not burn a particular format - I haven't seen one that depended on software.
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9. November 2010 @ 03:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi all,

I am in a similar situation. My laptop is about 6 months old and according to Device Manager my DVD is a Slimtype DVD A DS8A4S.

So, provided I use Verbatim DVD + R DL and Imgburn, I should be able to backup and copy my Xbox 360 games?

Thanks
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9. November 2010 @ 04:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
yes.. maybe you will get 5 or 6 before the burner dies.. that is if any work at all.. laptop burners are "light duty" burners.. they really aren't up to the job.. and at 4x at least the price of a good full size one and 2x the price of a good external in a usb housing.. why waste your burner for a very short term gain?

ignore the crap about changing the bitsetting.. the 360 doesn't care.. in fact it likes +r disks left just like that... that's if the burner will even do that..

burning 360 disks is an art.. some hardware won't do it.. My old 3550a burns as well now as the day it came out of it's bag 6 years ago.. has never managed to burn a 360 disk yet that worked.. a cheapass samsung that was half the price a year later burns them a treat.. even though it's burn quality scans are poor compared to the NEC ..

only hard and fast rule.. verbs.. second reasonably true rule.. laptop burners are generally light duty crap and either won't make a working burn or will die after a very few.. 3rd rule.. READ THE BACKUP TOPICS AND GUIDES!!!!

OP with the tsst 1663d?.. was it.. should work if it's made in the last 4 years or so.. if it's older forget it!! again a laptop burner.. at least being a sammy it should do a few tens before it flakes out on you..



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Semps79
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9. November 2010 @ 05:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks ps355528.

After reading many forums, I was under the impression that a computer won't read a Xbox360 DVD unless the DVD drive was "flashed??".
norverna
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9. November 2010 @ 05:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Semps79:
Thanks ps355528.

After reading many forums, I was under the impression that a computer won't read a Xbox360 DVD unless the DVD drive was "flashed??".
I think you need a Kreon drive to read and rip em.


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Semps79
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9. November 2010 @ 06:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
OK. I was getting a bit confused. After reading this discussion I thought that as long as you had a newer DVD drive in your computer it would work.
norverna
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10. November 2010 @ 01:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
HI,
I had a go last night...several in fact and no luck.
Basically I followed it step by step (I think) and tried burning at 2.4x....it hung for ages at setting L0 data zone capacity....then got a 'Failed to set L0 data zone capacity' error. Once I got this error I clicked cancel and with the same disc I tried 2x and it got to 71% and failed (log for this burn below).
After this I tried at 4x and got the 'Failed to set L0 data zone capacity' again so again I tried clicking cncel and tried at 2.4x again and it got to 100% but failed to finalize the disc.

My questions are....when it fails to set the LO data zone capacity....is the disc already screwed and is there anything I can try in the settings to get this to work?

I know now that using any discs other that Verbatims is a no no, however the guy that flashed my XBOX uses these Datawrite discs and then tested them on my console and said they are fine to use....so I bought a load!

Anyway, here is the log -

I 20:27:51 ImgBurn Version 2.5.2.0 started!
I 20:27:51 Microsoft Windows Vista Home Basic Edition (6.0, Build 6000)
I 20:27:51 Total Physical Memory: 1,038,156 KB - Available: 494,048 KB
W 20:27:51 Duplex Secure's SPTD driver can have a detrimental effect on drive performance.
I 20:27:51 Initialising SPTI...
I 20:27:51 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
E 20:27:51 Failed to check for ImgBurn update!
I 20:27:53 -> Drive 1 - Info: TSSTcorp DVD+-RW TS-L632D DE04 (E:) (ATA)
I 20:27:53 -> Drive 2 - Info: QTIZS YJGD67O9EF 1.03 (F:) (SCSI)
I 20:27:53 Found 1 DVD±RW and 1 BD-ROM/HD DVD-ROM!
I 20:42:02 Operation Started!
I 20:42:02 Source File: C:\Users\Sharman\Desktop\XB360CBO.dvd
I 20:42:02 Source File Sectors: 3,827,488 (MODE1/2048)
I 20:42:02 Source File Size: 7,838,695,424 bytes
I 20:42:02 Source File Volume Identifier: DVD_ROM
I 20:42:02 Source File Volume Set Identifier: ec67c000MS UDFBridge
I 20:42:02 Source File Application Identifier: CDIMAGE 2.45 (12/06/2000 TM)
I 20:42:02 Source File Implementation Identifier: Microsoft CDIMAGE UDF
I 20:42:02 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.50)
I 20:42:02 Destination Device: [1:0:0] TSSTcorp DVD+-RW TS-L632D DE04 (E:) (ATA)
I 20:42:02 Destination Media Type: DVD+R DL (Disc ID: RICOHJPN-D01-67) (Speeds: 2.4x, 4x)
I 20:42:02 Destination Media Sectors: 4,173,824
I 20:42:02 Write Mode: DVD
I 20:42:02 Write Type: DAO
I 20:42:02 Write Speed: 2.4x
I 20:42:02 Link Size: Auto
I 20:42:02 Lock Volume: Yes
I 20:42:02 Test Mode: No
I 20:42:02 OPC: No
I 20:42:02 BURN-Proof: Enabled
W 20:42:06 Write Speed Miscompare! - Wanted: 3,324 KB/s (2.4x), Got: 2,770 KB/s (2x)
I 20:42:06 Book Type Setting: DVD-ROM
I 20:42:06 User Specified L0 Data Zone Capacity: 1,913,760
E 20:47:18 Set L0 Data Zone Capacity Failed! - Reason: Invalid Field in Parameter List
E 20:47:18 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:05:16
I 20:47:18 Average Write Rate: N/A - Maximum Write Rate: N/A
I 20:47:31 Operation Started!
I 20:47:31 Source File: C:\Users\Sharman\Desktop\XB360CBO.dvd
I 20:47:31 Source File Sectors: 3,827,488 (MODE1/2048)
I 20:47:31 Source File Size: 7,838,695,424 bytes
I 20:47:31 Source File Volume Identifier: DVD_ROM
I 20:47:31 Source File Volume Set Identifier: ec67c000MS UDFBridge
I 20:47:31 Source File Application Identifier: CDIMAGE 2.45 (12/06/2000 TM)
I 20:47:31 Source File Implementation Identifier: Microsoft CDIMAGE UDF
I 20:47:31 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.50)
I 20:47:31 Destination Device: [1:0:0] TSSTcorp DVD+-RW TS-L632D DE04 (E:) (ATA)
I 20:47:31 Destination Media Type: DVD+R DL (Disc ID: RICOHJPN-D01-67) (Speeds: 2.4x, 4x)
I 20:47:31 Destination Media Sectors: 3,827,520
I 20:47:31 Write Mode: DVD
I 20:47:31 Write Type: DAO
I 20:47:31 Write Speed: 2x
I 20:47:31 Link Size: Auto
I 20:47:31 Lock Volume: Yes
I 20:47:31 Test Mode: No
I 20:47:31 OPC: No
I 20:47:31 BURN-Proof: Enabled
I 20:47:35 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 2,770 KB/s (2x)
I 20:47:35 Book Type Setting: DVD-ROM
I 20:47:35 User Specified L0 Data Zone Capacity: 1,913,760
I 20:48:02 Set L0 Data Zone Capacity Succeeded!
I 20:48:03 Filling Buffer... (40 MB)
I 20:48:04 Writing LeadIn...
I 20:48:07 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 3827487)
I 20:48:07 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 3827487)
I 20:48:07 Writing Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 1913759)
I 21:07:21 Writing Layer 1... (LBA: 1913760 - 3827487)
W 21:15:47 Failed to Write Sectors 2754656 - 2754687 - Reason: Write Error
W 21:15:47 Retrying (1 of 20)...
W 21:15:47 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 21:15:47 Retrying (2 of 20)...
W 21:15:47 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 21:15:47 Retrying (3 of 20)...
W 21:15:47 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 21:15:47 Retrying (4 of 20)...
W 21:15:47 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 21:15:47 Retrying (5 of 20)...
W 21:15:47 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 21:15:47 Retrying (6 of 20)...
W 21:15:47 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 21:15:47 Retrying (7 of 20)...
W 21:15:47 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 21:15:47 Retrying (8 of 20)...
W 21:15:47 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 21:15:47 Retrying (9 of 20)...
W 21:15:47 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 21:15:47 Retrying (10 of 20)...
W 21:15:47 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 21:15:47 Retrying (11 of 20)...
W 21:15:47 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 21:15:47 Retrying (12 of 20)...
W 21:15:47 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 21:15:47 Retrying (13 of 20)...
W 21:15:47 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 21:15:47 Retrying (14 of 20)...
W 21:15:47 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 21:15:47 Retrying (15 of 20)...
W 21:15:47 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 21:15:47 Retrying (16 of 20)...
W 21:15:47 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 21:15:47 Retrying (17 of 20)...
W 21:15:47 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 21:15:47 Retrying (18 of 20)...
W 21:15:47 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 21:15:47 Retrying (19 of 20)...
W 21:15:47 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 21:15:47 Retrying (20 of 20)...
W 21:15:47 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
E 21:29:07 Failed to Write Sectors 2754656 - 2754687 - Reason: Write Error
E 21:29:07 Next Writable Address: 2754126
I 21:29:08 Synchronising Cache...
W 21:29:15 User opted to skip the 'Close Track/Session/Disc' functions.
E 21:29:15 Failed to Write Image!
I 21:29:15 Exporting Graph Data...
I 21:29:15 Graph Data File: C:\Users\Sharman\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\TSSTcorp_DVD+-RW_TS-L632D_DE04_09-NOVEMBER-2010_20-47_RICOHJPN-D01-67_2x.ibg
I 21:29:15 Export Successfully Completed!
E 21:29:15 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:41:44
I 21:29:15 Average Write Rate: 2,239 KB/s (1.6x) - Maximum Write Rate: 4,658 KB/s (3.4x)
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10. November 2010 @ 03:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Invalid Address For Write is usually the tall tale signs of a shabby drive or incorrect writing parameters in the Firmware.

you could try manually setting the speed, 2x~4x. people think setting the drive to a lower write speed improves disc production,doesn't always hold true. iv had the disc bindings melt do to the heat of the drive at 2x speed.

and an hour to burn a disc is insanity any way.

Changing your Book type to DVD_ROM is a must if your planing to use it online or use XBL with it, DVD-R booktype is a insta ban flag.
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10. November 2010 @ 03:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by DXR88:
Invalid Address For Write is usually the tall tale signs of a shabby drive or incorrect writing parameters in the Firmware.

you could try manually setting the speed, 2x~4x. people think setting the drive to a lower write speed improves disc production,doesn't always hold true. iv had the disc bindings melt do to the heat of the drive at 2x speed.

and an hour to burn a disc is insanity any way.

Changing your Book type to DVD_ROM is a must if your planing to use it online or use XBL with it, DVD-R booktype is a insta ban flag.
Hi,
Thanks for the response.
When you say manually set the speed, I simply changed it at the drop down on the bottom right, is that correct or do you mean going into settings?
Regarding the book type, I went into it and selected DVD+RW DL and then set it as DVD ROM...is that correct?

I did all the above and it failed.


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10. November 2010 @ 03:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by norverna:
Originally posted by DXR88:
Invalid Address For Write is usually the tall tale signs of a shabby drive or incorrect writing parameters in the Firmware.

you could try manually setting the speed, 2x~4x. people think setting the drive to a lower write speed improves disc production,doesn't always hold true. iv had the disc bindings melt do to the heat of the drive at 2x speed.

and an hour to burn a disc is insanity any way.

Changing your Book type to DVD_ROM is a must if your planing to use it online or use XBL with it, DVD-R booktype is a insta ban flag.
Hi,
Thanks for the response.
When you say manually set the speed, I simply changed it at the drop down on the bottom right, is that correct or do you mean going into settings?
Regarding the book type, I went into it and selected DVD+RW DL and then set it as DVD ROM...is that correct?

I did all the above and it failed.
http://www.dvddecrypter.org.uk/ try using this instead of imgbrn.

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10. November 2010 @ 03:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by DXR88:
Originally posted by norverna:
Originally posted by DXR88:
Invalid Address For Write is usually the tall tale signs of a shabby drive or incorrect writing parameters in the Firmware.

you could try manually setting the speed, 2x~4x. people think setting the drive to a lower write speed improves disc production,doesn't always hold true. iv had the disc bindings melt do to the heat of the drive at 2x speed.

and an hour to burn a disc is insanity any way.

Changing your Book type to DVD_ROM is a must if your planing to use it online or use XBL with it, DVD-R booktype is a insta ban flag.
Hi,
Thanks for the response.
When you say manually set the speed, I simply changed it at the drop down on the bottom right, is that correct or do you mean going into settings?
Regarding the book type, I went into it and selected DVD+RW DL and then set it as DVD ROM...is that correct?

I did all the above and it failed.
http://www.dvddecrypter.org.uk/ try using this instead of imgbrn.
Will do....is there a guide on it for XBOX back ups?


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10. November 2010 @ 03:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
its essentially the same burning program, only older and not modified. if you can set up imgburn there's no reason you can't set up decrepter.

Edit* post your logs for a comparison if you will even if it does work.

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norverna
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10. November 2010 @ 03:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ta...will give it a go.
Failing that I will buy an internal for my desktop and use better media.
I am having trouble finding a suggestion for a burner other than Pioneer 110d, 111d, 112d, 115d and 116d..........which are very hard yo find where I live and on ebay.
Do you have any suggestions for either a different brand or a newer Pioneer?
I am hoping to get one for about £15 (dreaming maybe?)


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10. November 2010 @ 04:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106289

i have one of these lite-ons, it replaced my 8 year old Pioneer 108C which still worked and made well over a thousand burns in its life. the only reason i replaced it was my new computer lacked a IDE controller.

the lite-on was a more critical luck decision. there are two types of the same drive the iHAS124-Y older more robust and built to last, the iHAS124-C on the other hand is whats considered a throw away drive and by what Ive heard garbage.

its a 50/50 chance

in the wise words of Dirty Harry "you feelin lucky punk, well are ya."

As my luck would have it i Got a Y variant, lucky me. now if i could win that lottery.

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norverna
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10. November 2010 @ 04:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/176026
is this it?
How would I tell if its the 'Y'?


norverna
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10. November 2010 @ 07:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by DXR88:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106289

i have one of these lite-ons, it replaced my 8 year old Pioneer 108C which still worked and made well over a thousand burns in its life. the only reason i replaced it was my new computer lacked a IDE controller.

the lite-on was a more critical luck decision. there are two types of the same drive the iHAS124-Y older more robust and built to last, the iHAS124-C on the other hand is whats considered a throw away drive and by what Ive heard garbage.

its a 50/50 chance

in the wise words of Dirty Harry "you feelin lucky punk, well are ya."

As my luck would have it i Got a Y variant, lucky me. now if i could win that lottery.
Ok...I bit the bullet and bought a pioneer 115d....I hope this will do the job!


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10. November 2010 @ 17:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by norverna:
Originally posted by DXR88:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106289

i have one of these lite-ons, it replaced my 8 year old Pioneer 108C which still worked and made well over a thousand burns in its life. the only reason i replaced it was my new computer lacked a IDE controller.

the lite-on was a more critical luck decision. there are two types of the same drive the iHAS124-Y older more robust and built to last, the iHAS124-C on the other hand is whats considered a throw away drive and by what Ive heard garbage.

its a 50/50 chance

in the wise words of Dirty Harry "you feelin lucky punk, well are ya."

As my luck would have it i Got a Y variant, lucky me. now if i could win that lottery.
Ok...I bit the bullet and bought a pioneer 115d....I hope this will do the job!
that should work, and there is no way to tell the Y variant from the C variant.

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So let me get this right...... I have a laptop with a Slimtype DVD A DS8A4S. There is no way I can rip an Xbox 360 game with this drive??
 
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