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xboxkilla
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27. June 2012 @ 03:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
okay guys. so im back to the xbox scene and been doing some research and im just trying to get a few things straight.

My first question is, For a samsung M28 drive you do not need to upgrade to LT 3.0 to play all the new games right? XDG3 included.

second, I just bought an Ihas24b drive which i plan to use burnermax firmare to burn my games. how safe it to go online?
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27. June 2012 @ 03:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by xboxkilla:
okay guys. so im back to the xbox scene and been doing some research and im just trying to get a few things straight.

My first question is, For a samsung M28 drive you do not need to upgrade to LT 3.0 to play all the new games right? XDG3 included.

XGD3 games will work on the LT2.0 on samsung drives. Although I would recommend you upgrade to LT2.01 because there is a bug in LT2.0 and XGD3 games.

Originally posted by xboxkilla:
second, I just bought an Ihas24b drive which i plan to use burnermax firmare to burn my games. how safe it to go online?


RIARA
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27. June 2012 @ 04:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by xboxkilla:
how safe it to go online?
really, you really gonna ask about online safety? It's as safe as it always was, you take your chances with custom firmware and backup game discs.
xboxkilla
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27. June 2012 @ 04:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by RIARA:
Originally posted by xboxkilla:
how safe it to go online?
really, you really gonna ask about online safety? It's as safe as it always was, you take your chances with custom firmware and backup game discs.
Then i should have no worries in getting caught. Been online for years and never had an xbox flagged.
RIARA
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27. June 2012 @ 04:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by xboxkilla:
Originally posted by RIARA:
Originally posted by xboxkilla:
how safe it to go online?
really, you really gonna ask about online safety? It's as safe as it always was, you take your chances with custom firmware and backup game discs.
Then i should have no worries in getting caught. Been online for years and never had an xbox flagged.
then you should be ok, just sayin we are never really "safe" from big brother MS
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27. June 2012 @ 05:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
well burn ur xgd2 and ap2.5 games with a standard burner for xgd3 new games u will need an ihas.....

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27. June 2012 @ 06:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by usamabk:
well burn ur xgd2 and ap2.5 games with a standard burner for xgd3 new games u will need an ihas.....
is this true? or should i just burn everything using the ihas burner?
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27. June 2012 @ 14:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by xboxkilla:
Originally posted by usamabk:
well burn ur xgd2 and ap2.5 games with a standard burner for xgd3 new games u will need an ihas.....
is this true? or should i just burn everything using the ihas burner?
If you have an iHAS then burn everything with it. If not, then just burn XGD2 &AP2.5 until you get the iHAS.


RIARA
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28. June 2012 @ 10:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
dont forget to run everything thru ABGX and apply the patches
tongs007
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28. June 2012 @ 14:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
or just stop messing about with that and get a drive emulator
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30. June 2012 @ 18:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by tongs007:
or just stop messing about with that and get a drive emulator
yep. Xkey is way better than discs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
richietea
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1. July 2012 @ 04:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well being a sammy drive you do have the added bonus of it ingoring ap2.5 checks which makes it even better for xbox live.As Farrukh49 said if you plan to flash it yourself use the 2.1v of the firmware.Having a ihas with burnermax firmware is a definite yes.Just make sure you run every iso through the latest abgx to patch,then burn the full iso with your ihas drive,verbatim 003's(singapore).Loads of tuts on the settings needed for imgburn.Thats as safe as you can be.Nothing is set in stone or 100% safe but with the advice given to you here its the safest it can be.Im lucky enough to have both sammy and hitachi drives which neither do the ap2.5 checks,use the tools/firmware mentioned and never been flagged for a ban.Just try to keep up to date every so often and check c4eva's website http://c4evaspeaks.com/ for all the latest on dash updates/firmware news.
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1. July 2012 @ 07:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Modking30:
Originally posted by tongs007:
or just stop messing about with that and get a drive emulator
yep. Xkey is way better than discs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
'Multiple exclamation marks,' he went on, shaking his head, 'are a sure sign of a diseased mind.'
http://wiki.lspace.org/wiki/Multiple_exclamation_marks

The xkey came too late, now with the next generation Xbox on the horrizon it's just too expensive.

Xbox 360: Slim untouched with a faked 320 GB harddrive for XBL, phat with LT 3.0, played Halo early, so going on live would be an instand ban, also with a faked 320 GB harddrive
PS3: Untouched 160 GB Slim, 60 GB Fat with latest Rogero and 160 GB internal harddrive.
PSVita: hardly ever play it
GameCube: Black with a Viper chip installed. With gameboy player. Trying to get a Wavebird controller.
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1. July 2012 @ 08:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Eisherz:
Originally posted by Modking30:
Originally posted by tongs007:
or just stop messing about with that and get a drive emulator
yep. Xkey is way better than discs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
'Multiple exclamation marks,' he went on, shaking his head, 'are a sure sign of a diseased mind.'
http://wiki.lspace.org/wiki/Multiple_exclamation_marks

The xkey came too late, now with the next generation Xbox on the horrizon it's just too expensive.
its just in time next xbox not due until holiday 2013 and even then it probably will be a fluke and good working ones will be out by 2014
xkey is worth 100,than wasting coasters or money on discs
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1. July 2012 @ 17:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I want to get an xkey but I've never actually done any of my own modding or anything, unless you count the wiikey, or softmods lol. anyway I don't know anything about "key extraction" or anything like that and I believe I read the xkey isn't just something you plug and play so to speak...


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1. July 2012 @ 23:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Eisherz:

The xkey came too late, now with the next generation Xbox on the horrizon it's just too expensive.
Even if the next xbox comes out next year... a decent game won't come out for another 6+ months after that.

The 360 launched with no great games.

C.R.3.A.M.
xboxkilla
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6. July 2012 @ 04:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by richietea:
Well being a sammy drive you do have the added bonus of it ingoring ap2.5 checks which makes it even better for xbox live.As Farrukh49 said if you plan to flash it yourself use the 2.1v of the firmware.Having a ihas with burnermax firmware is a definite yes.Just make sure you run every iso through the latest abgx to patch,then burn the full iso with your ihas drive,verbatim 003's(singapore).Loads of tuts on the settings needed for imgburn.Thats as safe as you can be.Nothing is set in stone or 100% safe but with the advice given to you here its the safest it can be.Im lucky enough to have both sammy and hitachi drives which neither do the ap2.5 checks,use the tools/firmware mentioned and never been flagged for a ban.Just try to keep up to date every so often and check c4eva's website http://c4evaspeaks.com/ for all the latest on dash updates/firmware news.

GOOD REPLY, JUST GOT MY IHAS BURNER AND WILL FLASH THE BURNER AND MY SAMMY DRIVE TO LT 2.1 OVER THE WEEKEND. CAN ANYONE POINT ME TO A GOOD IMAGE BURN TUTORIAL FOR THE RIGHT SETTINGS USING VERBS?
RIARA
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6. July 2012 @ 05:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by xboxkilla:
Originally posted by richietea:
Well being a sammy drive you do have the added bonus of it ingoring ap2.5 checks which makes it even better for xbox live.As Farrukh49 said if you plan to flash it yourself use the 2.1v of the firmware.Having a ihas with burnermax firmware is a definite yes.Just make sure you run every iso through the latest abgx to patch,then burn the full iso with your ihas drive,verbatim 003's(singapore).Loads of tuts on the settings needed for imgburn.Thats as safe as you can be.Nothing is set in stone or 100% safe but with the advice given to you here its the safest it can be.Im lucky enough to have both sammy and hitachi drives which neither do the ap2.5 checks,use the tools/firmware mentioned and never been flagged for a ban.Just try to keep up to date every so often and check c4eva's website http://c4evaspeaks.com/ for all the latest on dash updates/firmware news.

GOOD REPLY, JUST GOT MY IHAS BURNER AND WILL FLASH THE BURNER AND MY SAMMY DRIVE TO LT 2.1 OVER THE WEEKEND. CAN ANYONE POINT ME TO A GOOD IMAGE BURN TUTORIAL FOR THE RIGHT SETTINGS USING VERBS?
With the MKM-001, I use these settings:

Eeprom
Force HT - Enabled
Online HT - Enabled
Smartburn -Enabled
Overspeed - Enabled

IMGburn
Peform OPC - Disabled
Burnproof - Disabled

Buffer Size - 512MB

Burn Speed 4x

Kprobe test at 4x


With MKM-003, I use these settings

Eeprom
Force HT - Disabled
Online HT - Disabled
Smartburn -Enabled
Overspeed - Enabled

IMGburn
Peform OPC - Disabled
Burnproof - Disabled

Buffer Size - 512MB

Burn Speed 4x

Kprobe test at 4x

I have been getting good results with both types of Verb with these settings oh, and I always clear opc and power cycle my drive before burning. Hope this helps you out.
Joe_1981
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6. July 2012 @ 10:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
xkey too late... not worth it? That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. Let's put aside the tons of advantages, no discs to buy, no flashing to do, no special burners to buy, no risk of coasters, no custom firmware... It's so nice dragging and dropping an ISO onto any hard drive you want and away you go. Not to mention, never having to swap games. There's so many advantages, you can't even compare the xkey to messing with discs. If you say the xkey isn't worth it at this point, then buying discs and flashing drives isn't worth it either. Plus, there will still be XBox360 games coming out once the new XBox comes out. They don't just halt all games for the old system, the day a new one comes out.

Please, explain to me how it's not worth it or came out too late?!

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6. July 2012 @ 18:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Do I really have to put up that calculation again?
I am so tired of it.
Roughly calculating the Xkey and a decent external 1 TB harddrive cost around 200 US$, the IHAS burner and a DROM drive cost around 40 US$, if you do the modding yourself. I don't calculate the hardware you need for getting the key off your xbox 360 drive, because you need that for both. I also don't say that you don't rip your own games, if you only download your stuff it's even cheaper. Let's then assume you pay 1.5 US$ per Verbatim disk (I pay 1, but just for calculation's sake), that would be 107 disks. Do you really think there are 107 games getting released in the next two years worth playing?
As I said, too expensive, too late.
And I don't even mention that the Xkey could possibly get useless with the next fall update. Then you'd have the same thing the PS3 scene has now, wait until someone finds/releases a patch to play newer games on the old dashboard.
If you want to play games off the harddrive, get an RGH done, atleast that gives you some more options (DLC, emulators...).

Xbox 360: Slim untouched with a faked 320 GB harddrive for XBL, phat with LT 3.0, played Halo early, so going on live would be an instand ban, also with a faked 320 GB harddrive
PS3: Untouched 160 GB Slim, 60 GB Fat with latest Rogero and 160 GB internal harddrive.
PSVita: hardly ever play it
GameCube: Black with a Viper chip installed. With gameboy player. Trying to get a Wavebird controller.

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 6. July 2012 @ 18:20

Joe_1981
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6. July 2012 @ 21:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
How will the xkey become useless though? It can't. It has a remote, and the firmware can be updated to combat anything MS may try to do to block it. You'll always be able to load ISOs from the remote and with upgradeable firmware, all they have to do is release new firmware when/if MS tries to block it.

And like I said, I'm not even talking about cost, but convenience. It's so much nicer dragging and dropping an ISO, verses having to burn, and hope something doesn't go wrong. Not to mention, your drive isn't flashed and you don't have to disassemble your XBox every time you need new firmware. And it's just easier all around. Pull the key off your drive and put the firmware on your xkey and you're done. Instead of having to take your XBox apart every time there's firmware and re-flash. It's far easier installing an xkey once rather than flashing a drive, getting an ihas burner, dealing with all the BS that comes with custom firmware and burning. This is coming from someone whose been dealing with the firmware stuff for 3 years. The xkey is, hands down, much easier and more convenient. Whether the cost in the end was more or not. It's so much nicer and worth it. To each his own, but man, I'd rather use an xkey all day long.
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9. July 2012 @ 23:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Joe_1981:
How will the xkey become useless though? It can't. It has a remote, and the firmware can be updated to combat anything MS may try to do to block it. You'll always be able to load ISOs from the remote and with upgradeable firmware, all they have to do is release new firmware when/if MS tries to block it.

And like I said, I'm not even talking about cost, but convenience. It's so much nicer dragging and dropping an ISO, verses having to burn, and hope something doesn't go wrong. Not to mention, your drive isn't flashed and you don't have to disassemble your XBox every time you need new firmware. And it's just easier all around. Pull the key off your drive and put the firmware on your xkey and you're done. Instead of having to take your XBox apart every time there's firmware and re-flash. It's far easier installing an xkey once rather than flashing a drive, getting an ihas burner, dealing with all the BS that comes with custom firmware and burning. This is coming from someone whose been dealing with the firmware stuff for 3 years. The xkey is, hands down, much easier and more convenient. Whether the cost in the end was more or not. It's so much nicer and worth it. To each his own, but man, I'd rather use an xkey all day long.
Not trying to hijack this, but I have a quick question for you. Im back in the scene again about to get a new 360 after my 2007 Hitachi 46 drive (yeah Its ancient) just RROD on me for the second time. Will any new 360 work with Xkey? Or should I look for a particular one? I already have a 2TB external drive, so thats no problem. Any help is appreciated.

PS3 Username - Coochey
XBOX 360 Username - Joonbugg (banned)
xboxkilla
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9. July 2012 @ 23:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by joonbugg:
Originally posted by Joe_1981:
How will the xkey become useless though? It can't. It has a remote, and the firmware can be updated to combat anything MS may try to do to block it. You'll always be able to load ISOs from the remote and with upgradeable firmware, all they have to do is release new firmware when/if MS tries to block it.

And like I said, I'm not even talking about cost, but convenience. It's so much nicer dragging and dropping an ISO, verses having to burn, and hope something doesn't go wrong. Not to mention, your drive isn't flashed and you don't have to disassemble your XBox every time you need new firmware. And it's just easier all around. Pull the key off your drive and put the firmware on your xkey and you're done. Instead of having to take your XBox apart every time there's firmware and re-flash. It's far easier installing an xkey once rather than flashing a drive, getting an ihas burner, dealing with all the BS that comes with custom firmware and burning. This is coming from someone whose been dealing with the firmware stuff for 3 years. The xkey is, hands down, much easier and more convenient. Whether the cost in the end was more or not. It's so much nicer and worth it. To each his own, but man, I'd rather use an xkey all day long.
Not trying to hijack this, but I have a quick question for you. Im back in the scene again about to get a new 360 after my 2007 Hitachi 46 drive (yeah Its ancient) just RROD on me for the second time. Will any new 360 work with Xkey? Or should I look for a particular one? I already have a 2TB external drive, so thats no problem. Any help is appreciated.
xboxkilla
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10. July 2012 @ 00:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by xboxkilla:
Originally posted by joonbugg:
Originally posted by Joe_1981:
How will the xkey become useless though? It can't. It has a remote, and the firmware can be updated to combat anything MS may try to do to block it. You'll always be able to load ISOs from the remote and with upgradeable firmware, all they have to do is release new firmware when/if MS tries to block it.

And like I said, I'm not even talking about cost, but convenience. It's so much nicer dragging and dropping an ISO, verses having to burn, and hope something doesn't go wrong. Not to mention, your drive isn't flashed and you don't have to disassemble your XBox every time you need new firmware. And it's just easier all around. Pull the key off your drive and put the firmware on your xkey and you're done. Instead of having to take your XBox apart every time there's firmware and re-flash. It's far easier installing an xkey once rather than flashing a drive, getting an ihas burner, dealing with all the BS that comes with custom firmware and burning. This is coming from someone whose been dealing with the firmware stuff for 3 years. The xkey is, hands down, much easier and more convenient. Whether the cost in the end was more or not. It's so much nicer and worth it. To each his own, but man, I'd rather use an xkey all day long.
Not trying to hijack this, but I have a quick question for you. Im back in the scene again about to get a new 360 after my 2007 Hitachi 46 drive (yeah Its ancient) just RROD on me for the second time. Will any new 360 work with Xkey? Or should I look for a particular one? I already have a 2TB external drive, so thats no problem. Any help is appreciated.



DON't Hijack. Start your own.


Anyway to give a quick update. i was able to re flash my xbox to Sammy LT 2.0.1 and also replaced the drive with a brand new M28 drive because i was getting a lot or Cannot read disc errors.

Secondly i already got the Ihas burner and i was quick to realize that the computer im trying to put this drive in only takes IDE Drives, not sata. So i bought a IDE to sata converter and im waiting for that.

Now my only question left is about Verbatim DLDVD-Rs, now im seeing threads about a specific kind of Verbatims. MKM-001 or MKM-003. what is the difference and where can i get either or. because where i get mine from ( amazon ) there is no mention of these types.
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10. July 2012 @ 00:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by xboxkilla:
Originally posted by xboxkilla:
Originally posted by joonbugg:
Originally posted by Joe_1981:
How will the xkey become useless though? It can't. It has a remote, and the firmware can be updated to combat anything MS may try to do to block it. You'll always be able to load ISOs from the remote and with upgradeable firmware, all they have to do is release new firmware when/if MS tries to block it.

And like I said, I'm not even talking about cost, but convenience. It's so much nicer dragging and dropping an ISO, verses having to burn, and hope something doesn't go wrong. Not to mention, your drive isn't flashed and you don't have to disassemble your XBox every time you need new firmware. And it's just easier all around. Pull the key off your drive and put the firmware on your xkey and you're done. Instead of having to take your XBox apart every time there's firmware and re-flash. It's far easier installing an xkey once rather than flashing a drive, getting an ihas burner, dealing with all the BS that comes with custom firmware and burning. This is coming from someone whose been dealing with the firmware stuff for 3 years. The xkey is, hands down, much easier and more convenient. Whether the cost in the end was more or not. It's so much nicer and worth it. To each his own, but man, I'd rather use an xkey all day long.
Not trying to hijack this, but I have a quick question for you. Im back in the scene again about to get a new 360 after my 2007 Hitachi 46 drive (yeah Its ancient) just RROD on me for the second time. Will any new 360 work with Xkey? Or should I look for a particular one? I already have a 2TB external drive, so thats no problem. Any help is appreciated.



DON't Hijack. Start your own.


Anyway to give a quick update. i was able to re flash my xbox to Sammy LT 2.0.1 and also replaced the drive with a brand new M28 drive because i was getting a lot or Cannot read disc errors.

Secondly i already got the Ihas burner and i was quick to realize that the computer im trying to put this drive in only takes IDE Drives, not sata. So i bought a IDE to sata converter and im waiting for that.

Now my only question left is about Verbatim DLDVD-Rs, now im seeing threads about a specific kind of Verbatims. MKM-001 or MKM-003. what is the difference and where can i get either or. because where i get mine from ( amazon ) there is no mention of these types.
go with the MKM-003, they seem to get better results. seems like the way to tell the 2 apart is the write speed printed on the disc, MKM-001 is 2.4x and MKM-003 is 8x, just be sure they are made in Singapore.
 
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