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VGenscher
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28. April 2012 @ 07:22 |
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It has been along time sense I have checked the mod news on xbox 360 so I'm not sure what is out there for me any more.
First of all I am not sure were to start, I have downloaded jftut1.4.4.pdf on this site but I'm confused at the moment. So many sites are out of date.
I noticed some sites state that you can put back ups on "usb/external hard-drives" now and if true I would like to do this instead of burning dvds. If its not possible then dvds will have to do,also can I use ftp to back my up games?.
My xbox is the old white not modern at all, not sure if it had 3red lights if it does ill fix it first.
What do I need to get started? ,could some one point me to a good guide or give me my options please.
Thanks
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28. April 2012 @ 10:17 |
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what you have read about is either the reset glitch hack, or an optical drive emulator. both are capable of playing games off a usb hard drive. however both have their advantages and disadvantages, the reset glitch hack(RGH) accomplishes everything the older jtag hack does, you get hombrew, the ability to mod your games, rip games directly onto your hard drive, and play games from an external hard drive, while sacrificing your ability to play on xbox live. An optical drive emulator such as the xk3y will allow you to play your games from an external hard drive only, while keeping xbox live and all the benifits of that come with it, this hack is preferred for inexperienced modders because it requires little to no soldering (you may have to solder depending on your drive model to obtain a full dump of its firmware).
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28. April 2012 @ 10:38 |
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Originally posted by palwill:
(you may have to solder depending on your drive model to obtain a full dump of its firmware).
That only is true for slims. On a phat white Xbox 360 no matter what drive you have you can get the key without soldering. If you realy want to play Xbox 360 drives off a harddrive and are not interested in homebrew at all the Xk3y or similar devices is in my oppinion the better choice, the hardware is cheaper than the one needed for an RGH and you don't need all the skills needed for RGH (soldering, a little programming...).
On the other hand, if the box really had a RROD (red ring of death), I wouldn't put too much efford in it anymore. A RROD can never be fully repaired, atleast not without higher costs than a new (used) box would cost (I am sure nobody does a reballing for under 50 US$).
Xbox 360: Slim untouched with a faked 320 GB harddrive for XBL, phat with LT 3.0, played Halo early, so going on live would be an instand ban, also with a faked 320 GB harddrive
PS3: Untouched 160 GB Slim, 60 GB Fat with latest Rogero and 160 GB internal harddrive.
PSVita: hardly ever play it
GameCube: Black with a Viper chip installed. With gameboy player. Trying to get a Wavebird controller.
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28. April 2012 @ 10:48 |
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Originally posted by Eisherz:
That only is true for slims. On a phat white Xbox 360 no matter what drive you have you can get the key without soldering.
thank you for that clarification, i have never used the xk3y, or any ode for that matter.
Originally posted by Eisherz:
On the other hand, if the box really had a RROD (red ring of death), I wouldn't put too much efford in it anymore. A RROD can never be fully repaired, atleast not without higher costs than a new (used) box would cost (I am sure nobody does a reballing for under 50 US$).
when i have looked at the price it was around $70 but that was some time ago.
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28. April 2012 @ 10:51 |
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home-brew does interest me however I can live with out it ;).
Xbox live not really needed for me, so losing it does not matter, for my demos the ps3 will do fine or the or the other xbox360 which i have.
OK I just popped its face off, looked in the hole and saw a white wire and blank space which tells me benq yes ?
I would like to try and flash this console with out buying anything as i just moved housed and money is very tight, possible?. Guessing that I can use the xbox360 to power the drive while its hooked to my motherboard which has 6-sata sockets on it.
does the glitch hack(RGH) require me to buy anything ?
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VGenscher
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28. April 2012 @ 10:54 |
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Originally posted by palwill:
Originally posted by Eisherz:
That only is true for slims. On a phat white Xbox 360 no matter what drive you have you can get the key without soldering.
thank you for that clarification, i have never used the xk3y, or any ode for that matter.
Originally posted by Eisherz:
On the other hand, if the box really had a RROD (red ring of death), I wouldn't put too much efford in it anymore. A RROD can never be fully repaired, atleast not without higher costs than a new (used) box would cost (I am sure nobody does a reballing for under 50 US$).
when i have looked at the price it was around $70 but that was some time ago.
Oh i did noticed on a bullet-board near me a guy repairing xbox360's for £60.00
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VGenscher
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28. April 2012 @ 11:00 |
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28. April 2012 @ 11:04 |
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in order to do the RGH you will need to buy a glitch chip (such as the xecuter coolrunner) and some device to read and write your nand (nand-x), and a device to program your coolrunner. if you buy a coolrunner and a nand-x it will cost you about £42.53. so if money is a problem flashing might be a good option.
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28. April 2012 @ 11:06 |
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Originally posted by palwill:
in order to do the RGH you will need to buy a glitch chip (such as the xecuter coolrunner) and some device to read and write your nand (nand-x), and a device to program your coolrunner. if you buy a coolrunner and a nand-x it will cost you about £42.53. so if money is a problem flashing might be a good option.
Flashing it is, thanks for clearing that up for me ;)
Shame about the usb but got around 10games here to back up and a round 12 8.5gb disc laying around
good news I do not have 3red lights on this xbox, its on the other one lol
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28. April 2012 @ 11:07 |
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Originally posted by VGenscher:
Just found http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRp48e3792E&feature=related
shows that I can use the console to power the drive, which makes me happy.
I am 99% sure that ill do it this way when connecting.
quick question will kinect still work after flash?.
you might run into some problems depending on your sata chipset, i saw a thread a while back with chipsets that work with xbox 360 drives, ill post the link if i find it. kinect dash will work fine, i would recommend updating first though. best of luck to you.
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28. April 2012 @ 11:09 |
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Originally posted by VGenscher:
Originally posted by palwill:
in order to do the RGH you will need to buy a glitch chip (such as the xecuter coolrunner) and some device to read and write your nand (nand-x), and a device to program your coolrunner. if you buy a coolrunner and a nand-x it will cost you about £42.53. so if money is a problem flashing might be a good option.
Flashing it is, thanks for clearing that up for me ;)
good news I do not have 3red lights on this xbox, its on the other one lol
that is always good news, you might want to look into the 12V fan mod while you are at it. it should help prevent any future RROD.
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28. April 2012 @ 11:14 |
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Originally posted by palwill:
Originally posted by VGenscher:
Just found http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRp48e3792E&feature=related
shows that I can use the console to power the drive, which makes me happy.
I am 99% sure that ill do it this way when connecting.
quick question will kinect still work after flash?.
you might run into some problems depending on your sata chipset, i saw a thread a while back with chipsets that work with xbox 360 drives, ill post the link if i find it. kinect dash will work fine, i would recommend updating first though. best of luck to you.
is there any version i must not past ?, like in the past you would have to downgrade if you has so and so version.
Lets hope then that my motherboard does it, if not ill try my other pc and if fail then i think the laptop has 1 sata on the side,
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28. April 2012 @ 11:34 |
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you should be fine updating to the latest dash, if you do plan on eventually doing the RGH, i would check before updating in the future, but for now you should be fine.
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28. April 2012 @ 11:53 |
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Originally posted by palwill:
you should be fine updating to the latest dash, if you do plan on eventually doing the RGH, i would check before updating in the future, but for now you should be fine.
Ok then ill just read some forums on the web before i take action use to make sure i do it right ;)
so i should be looking for ixtreme LT+benQ? right
and can i use ftp to back up games ?
thanks for the help
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shes even sexy on the in side, its open and hooked up ;P
scary moment to come
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28. April 2012 @ 16:02 |
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With flashing you can't play games off the harddrive, you have to burn them, so ftp is out of the question. Also above you mentioned a guy repairing boxes for 60 Pounds, does he do a reball or a reflow? A reflow is just crap, keeps your box alive for a month or so, you just heat the chips up with a heatgun to temporarily close some of the microcracs causing the RROD. A reballing is completely desoldering and resoldering the GPU and the CPU.
For backing up originals you need either a DROM 6316 or an original Xbox 360 drive, both flashed with 0800 firmware, the DROM has to be modified a little, but you don't need extra power sources for it. This is for reading them. Just for burning the games (I don't mention the d-word) you need one of the burners compatible with burner max (google that, you will find a list).
Xbox 360: Slim untouched with a faked 320 GB harddrive for XBL, phat with LT 3.0, played Halo early, so going on live would be an instand ban, also with a faked 320 GB harddrive
PS3: Untouched 160 GB Slim, 60 GB Fat with latest Rogero and 160 GB internal harddrive.
PSVita: hardly ever play it
GameCube: Black with a Viper chip installed. With gameboy player. Trying to get a Wavebird controller.
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28. April 2012 @ 17:38 |
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Originally posted by Eisherz:
With flashing you can't play games off the harddrive, you have to burn them, so ftp is out of the question. Also above you mentioned a guy repairing boxes for 60 Pounds, does he do a reball or a reflow? A reflow is just crap, keeps your box alive for a month or so, you just heat the chips up with a heatgun to temporarily close some of the microcracs causing the RROD. A reballing is completely desoldering and resoldering the GPU and the CPU.
For backing up originals you need either a DROM 6316 or an original Xbox 360 drive, both flashed with 0800 firmware, the DROM has to be modified a little, but you don't need extra power sources for it. This is for reading them. Just for burning the games (I don't mention the d-word) you need one of the burners compatible with burner max (google that, you will find a list).
Not sure what he does but any hows I have a new plan instead near bottom of this post.
Successful the working Xbox360 is now flashed, however i have not made any back ups yet because ill have to read up how ;)
Thanks for all the help everyone ;)
New plan/idea i have a old xbox with 3 redlights.
Can i use it's dvd-drive because there still is power yes? and link it to my pc in-order to backup my games. Doing so would allow me to close my flashed xbox360 and keep it close until it needs a update if it ever does?.
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28. April 2012 @ 17:50 |
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Originally posted by VGenscher:
Not sure what he does but any hows I have a new plan instead near bottom of this post.
Successful the working Xbox360 is now flashed, however i have not made any back ups yet because ill have to read up how ;)
Thanks for all the help everyone ;)
New plan/idea i have a old xbox with 3 redlights.
Can i use it's dvd-drive because there still is power yes? and link it to my pc in-order to backup my games. Doing so would allow me to close my flashed xbox360 and keep it close until it needs a update if it ever does?.
congratulations, that is probably a good idea, what type of drive is in it?
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28. April 2012 @ 17:54 |
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Originally posted by palwill:
Originally posted by VGenscher:
Not sure what he does but any hows I have a new plan instead near bottom of this post.
Successful the working Xbox360 is now flashed, however i have not made any back ups yet because ill have to read up how ;)
Thanks for all the help everyone ;)
New plan/idea i have a old xbox with 3 redlights.
Can i use it's dvd-drive because there still is power yes? and link it to my pc in-order to backup my games. Doing so would allow me to close my flashed xbox360 and keep it close until it needs a update if it ever does?.
congratulations, that is probably a good idea, what type of drive is in it?
Just checked it is a samsung drive(red and black wires), will i have to flash that drive to make back ups ?.
Oh and thank you for your help ;)
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28. April 2012 @ 18:20 |
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yes you will, i think that the 0800 firmware is a little outdated but it should work fine.
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28. April 2012 @ 18:23 |
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Originally posted by palwill:
yes you will, i think that the 0800 firmware is a little outdated but it should work fine.
I guess ill do that tomorow then ;)
i got file with this note, i think this is the correct .bin file, note attached.
does Samsung flash similar to BenQ ?
Team Jungle Presents IXtreme 1.6 0800 firmware for Benq, Samsung and Liteon drives
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IXtreme fw for Benq, Samsung and Liteon drives!
Features
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-Common API designed for easier application use!
-Support for SS V2!
-Direct 0800 mode for game dumping including SS v2!
This firmware is =NOT FOR USE IN A CONSOLE= and is provided
with the intended use of being in a dedicated "ripping" drive.
This means:
a. Does not need your DVD key,
b. Does not need spoofing as another drive,
c. Does not need to use the tray half open and
d. Does not need to use the activate.iso to use this firmware on the pc.
More Info
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SS v2 supports multiple timing samples for challenges type 5 and 7, storing them in the SS. This is a pre-requisite for SS v3 which has support for the so called AP2.5 check. Since this has never been used or may never be used by MS we will adopt a wait and see approach and continue to monitor for its usage.
ix16 0800 Commands
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AD 00 FF 02 FD FF FE 00 08 00 00 C0 - SS/CPRMAI
AD 00 FF 02 FD FF FE 00 08 00 ID C0 - SS Challenge ID
12 00 00 00 30 C0 00 00 00 49 58 01 - ix Cmd 1 - Dumps key and rev 0x30 bytes
12 00 00 00 24 C0 00 xx xx 49 58 02 - ix Cmd 2 - Output 0x800 bytes from ram address
12 00 00 00 24 C0 00 00 00 49 58 03 - ix Cmd 3 - Toggles Lock/UnLock Game partition
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28. April 2012 @ 20:00 |
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Originally posted by palwill:
yes you will, i think that the 0800 firmware is a little outdated but it should work fine.
I am totally not sure that this will work, only 0800v3 can read out XGD3 titles and that one is not released for Samsungs.
Xbox 360: Slim untouched with a faked 320 GB harddrive for XBL, phat with LT 3.0, played Halo early, so going on live would be an instand ban, also with a faked 320 GB harddrive
PS3: Untouched 160 GB Slim, 60 GB Fat with latest Rogero and 160 GB internal harddrive.
PSVita: hardly ever play it
GameCube: Black with a Viper chip installed. With gameboy player. Trying to get a Wavebird controller.
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29. April 2012 @ 05:52 |
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Originally posted by Eisherz:
Originally posted by palwill:
yes you will, i think that the 0800 firmware is a little outdated but it should work fine.
I am totally not sure that this will work, only 0800v3 can read out XGD3 titles and that one is not released for Samsungs.
I don't that would matter much as most of my games for backing up are old ;), however if it does become a issue I know a few people who had 3 red lights and bought new consoles so maybe I could buy their old consoles.
Thanks for the heads up ;)
It is possible to use my benQ flashed drive to copy newer disk, but will i have to keep flashing it back and forward between the 0800 and the one firmware it currently is ?.
My newest game would be ether gears2 or fable2.
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I have flashed the Samsung with 0800 l2 and can now back up my disk, still have to learn how to burn them but hey 2 xbox360 drives flashed within 24 hours ;)
Now hunting for a benq drive for dedicated backing ups.
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29. April 2012 @ 14:42 |
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I seriously would rather hunt for a DROM 6316, I just got a 2nd off ebay for 5.50 Euro, modding it to read backus is easy (six big soldering points and one switch, which has to be connected with two wires, no cutting) and you have a truly internal drive, don't need an open rrod box laying around every time you try to back up a game.
Xbox 360: Slim untouched with a faked 320 GB harddrive for XBL, phat with LT 3.0, played Halo early, so going on live would be an instand ban, also with a faked 320 GB harddrive
PS3: Untouched 160 GB Slim, 60 GB Fat with latest Rogero and 160 GB internal harddrive.
PSVita: hardly ever play it
GameCube: Black with a Viper chip installed. With gameboy player. Trying to get a Wavebird controller.
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29. April 2012 @ 15:29 |
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Originally posted by Eisherz:
I seriously would rather hunt for a DROM 6316, I just got a 2nd off ebay for 5.50 Euro, modding it to read backus is easy (six big soldering points and one switch, which has to be connected with two wires, no cutting) and you have a truly internal drive, don't need an open rrod box laying around every time you try to back up a game.
Good idea, it would save me time and effort.
Ill have to check what money comes in and out before i can do anything ;)
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1. May 2012 @ 15:11 |
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Please note that the xk3y will not have Key extraction technology. So please only order if you have a way of dumping your original firmware. This is important! Firmware.bin for fat, and dummy.bin for Slims
I don't really understand this but how do I get the key extracted if I choose to buy the xkey? Never dumped any firmware before... Is this really a user friendly option?
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