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kbz405
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16. November 2010 @ 19:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ok It's my understanding the new NFS has a dash update, as well as a new firmware check. I have a BenQ drive, with the firmware that needs the activate iso for wave 4 games (1.5 right?)
One, will this new dash update make my games no longer work?
Will this game work?
lol I guess that's it, its not going to mess me up will it? I'm confused lol
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kbz405
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16. November 2010 @ 19:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
p.s im not concerned about being banned i don't play this xbox online i just don't want to have it make all my old backups stop working for some reason (the new dash update)
Modking30
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16. November 2010 @ 20:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Plain and simple. AP2.5 games cannot boot currently unless you have a hitachi or samsung drive.
willerz
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16. November 2010 @ 20:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
AP2.5 games will not work on new dash except for samsung and hitachi drives. Fable 3 will work if you have old dash though.
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16. November 2010 @ 22:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
all ap2.5 games work for me...and not using a sammy or hitachi.

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willerz
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16. November 2010 @ 22:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by wabashman:
all ap2.5 games work for me...and not using a sammy or hitachi.
what dash are you using? what drive do you have? what fw? spoofed? wave patch? jtag?

how is it possible? so you're saying fable 3, ac: brotherhood, and need for speed: hot pursuit work for you?

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cowboy333
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16. November 2010 @ 23:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by wabashman:
all ap2.5 games work for me...and not using a sammy or hitachi.
Same here. I got an old elite machine from 2007 using a lite-on drive or could be benq. Can't remember what firmware, possibly lt, but this is playing fable 3 and assassins creed brotherhood just fine on the latest dash. Took a risk and plugged into live to download the dash. Had no problems with any game so far. Fingers Crossed.
bludd
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17. November 2010 @ 01:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by willerz:
Originally posted by wabashman:
all ap2.5 games work for me...and not using a sammy or hitachi.
what dash are you using? what drive do you have? what fw? spoofed? wave patch? jtag?

how is it possible? so you're saying fable 3, ac: brotherhood, and need for speed: hot pursuit work for you?
Sure, they would all work when you put your original disc into your 360.
cowboy333
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17. November 2010 @ 06:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by bludd:
Originally posted by willerz:
Originally posted by wabashman:
all ap2.5 games work for me...and not using a sammy or hitachi.
what dash are you using? what drive do you have? what fw? spoofed? wave patch? jtag?

how is it possible? so you're saying fable 3, ac: brotherhood, and need for speed: hot pursuit work for you?
Sure, they would all work when you put your original disc into your 360.
Of course but mine were back up copies
Jan1234
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17. November 2010 @ 08:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Lite on drive, beta dashboard and ixtreme latest "not LT+" Fable 3 working and brotherhood and hot pursuit not working!
gcooldude
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17. November 2010 @ 10:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I tried Fable 3 on my BenQ drive with the beta dash and works, AC Brotherhood just gets Play DVD...oh well, wait for the new FW to come out
Jan1234
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17. November 2010 @ 14:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Guess so, just hang in there for the next flash.

Well done microsoft.

Game collectors unite!

LT+ = $
gcooldude
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17. November 2010 @ 15:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
For AC Brotherhood just says Play DVD on my Benq with 1.61m this is because of the AP 2.5?
willerz
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17. November 2010 @ 15:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by gcooldude:
For AC Brotherhood just says Play DVD on my Benq with 1.61m this is because of the AP 2.5?
Yes.
gcooldude
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17. November 2010 @ 15:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by willerz:
Originally posted by gcooldude:
For AC Brotherhood just says Play DVD on my Benq with 1.61m this is because of the AP 2.5?
Yes.
Okay. I have a JTAG console so gonna find a guide how to use AP 2.5 on that
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17. November 2010 @ 15:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
My theory is that ACB is checking for a console flag and if it finds one it wont boot. while F3 doesnt check for a flag and will sometimes boot. thats a theory tho with no evidence to back up

If you send me questions on Live about modding or anything related i will block you. Dont be an idiot.
Bummin
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17. November 2010 @ 15:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Just so I understand this correctly...

I am running my xbox with a hitachi drive and I am unable to play the new Need for Speed, using a backup.

Is it true that I will not be able to play need for speed until I get my drive reflashed? What other games are effected by this?

I do not know what flash version I currently running as I did not flash the machine.

Thanks
willerz
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17. November 2010 @ 15:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Bummin:
Just so I understand this correctly...

I am running my xbox with a hitachi drive and I am unable to play the new Need for Speed, using a backup.

Is it true that I will not be able to play need for speed until I get my drive reflashed? What other games are effected by this?

I do not know what flash version I currently running as I did not flash the machine.

Thanks
other games that don't work are Fable 3, Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood and I think some Hasbro game.

most likely you will need to reflash your firmware. unless one of the workarounds that people have been posting work for you. seems like a bunch of ppl are having no issues with certain hardware and/or fw combinations.
Thosmos
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17. November 2010 @ 17:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by gcooldude:
Originally posted by willerz:
Originally posted by gcooldude:
For AC Brotherhood just says Play DVD on my Benq with 1.61m this is because of the AP 2.5?
Yes.
Okay. I have a JTAG console so gonna find a guide how to use AP 2.5 on that
Okay, I have a question -- rumor has it that Samsung/Toshiba and some old Hitachi dont have ap25 -- I have a machine that had a Lite On. I installed a Hitachi 0047DJ with the Liteon key. This won't work from what I have read, as far as fooling the AP25 into thinking that the unit came with the Hitachi?

Lite-On 74850, Ben-Q 64930, Hitachi 47DJ, Samsung MS28.

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17. November 2010 @ 17:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
spoofing isnt working anymore. those days are gone. and its not a rumor that samsung and some hitachie dont support ap2.5 it was confirmed by c4eva

If you send me questions on Live about modding or anything related i will block you. Dont be an idiot.
Thosmos
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17. November 2010 @ 18:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by stealthdf:
spoofing isnt working anymore. those days are gone. and its not a rumor that samsung and some hitachie dont support ap2.5 it was confirmed by c4eva
Are only the Hitachi and Samsung the drives that aren't able to handle the AP25 challenge? I also heard that some of the older drives had mixed results. Have you seen a list anywhere of claimed success with the new dash on other drives?

Lite-On 74850, Ben-Q 64930, Hitachi 47DJ, Samsung MS28.

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17. November 2010 @ 18:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
samsung and hitachi are the older drives mentioned. there are several revs of the hitachie i think 58/59/79 im not sure which one doesnt support ap2.5

the mixed results mentioned were probably meaning the various hitachi revs

If you send me questions on Live about modding or anything related i will block you. Dont be an idiot.
tozadog
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17. November 2010 @ 19:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Had same problems as everyone else here as my Xbox is fitted with an 83850 drive so N4S HP wouldn't boot .
Then i remembered i had an old Xbox that was Red Ring of death so i opened it up and it was fitted with a samsung MS25 drive so i though what a result now time to try and fix it.
So i got it working and i already knew it was flashed as id done it before it went RROD.
So in goes the game and PLAY DVD comes up hmmmmm..... tried fable worked tried a few more and all worked except N4S HP .
Took drive out plugged into jungleflasher and its running 1.61 samsung ixtreme so i updated to LT for samsung and game runs flawlessly been playing over 2hrs .
So sucks for you guys that cant get it working lol.
Thats my story for today now back to the game!!!!!!
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17. November 2010 @ 19:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
it would have worked with 1.61 but only with the activate disc. its better that you updated to LT anyway as its less of a hassle than swapping disc constantly.

good work

If you send me questions on Live about modding or anything related i will block you. Dont be an idiot.
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tozadog
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17. November 2010 @ 19:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by stealthdf:
it would have worked with 1.61 but only with the activate disc. its better that you updated to LT anyway as its less of a hassle than swapping disc constantly.

good work
Thanks i was gutted today when i put it in and didnt work i was gonna buy it on friday too so made a saving aswell and revived an old box!
 
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