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which is best Wasabi 360 or X360key?
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biglo30
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1. June 2012 @ 09:26 |
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Originally posted by goyankees:
xk3y sounds like a no-brainer for the people who have the extra money to burn. Its like the guys above have said; no patching, no burning, no waiting for hack and then having to OPEN your xbox to hack, gtfoh, if all i have to pay is 100 to have the peace of mind of all of the aforementioned brings, count me in big time.
Oh yeah, I see you made the jump to 360 lol. The ps3 scene was fun while it lasted but too much drama and no unity at all.
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1. June 2012 @ 13:33 |
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Originally posted by biglo30:
Originally posted by Eisherz:
If I were to put that much money into this I'd get the xbox 360 RGH'd. It costs about the same as an xkey and can do way more (DLC...), especially on a flagged box that doesn't go online at all.
And by the way: You start saving money after about 4.5 years with an xkey (if the harddrive works that long), so lilup's argument is pretty much bull...
You seem to forget about the main thing in all of this. The ease of installation!!!!! I'm sure everyone here who has a xkey did the install themselves. I know I for one would never try to solder any RGH chip in my xbox360 and risk ruining the whole system! If the RGH was plug and play like the xkey was then it would be a no brainier but having to open and solder it yourself or take it to someone to solder would equal the price. Before I got my xkey I never opened my 360 but I still did the installation myself with little fear of messing something up.
Mess up a xkey installtion = Probably connected something wrong, tore the flat cable, left something disconnected or forgot the key = Still have a functioning xbox360.
Mess up RGH soldering installation could mean a brand new xbox 360, on and whats the price of one of those like 200 bucks.
Come on be real!
Come on be real......
I wrote I'd have it RGH'd. I won't do it myself. Here letting a trustworthy shop doing the RGH costs about the same as buying an Xkey. And a used Xbox 360 is like 20 to 30 Euro, if you know how to switch drives (10-15 Euro RROD unit, 10-20 Euro unit with a dead drive).
Originally posted by Modking30:
and you'll never play online with the method. The xkey can go on live.
Normally I just ignore you, but well, yea... The OP's box is already flagged, and the OP never goes online.
Originally posted by Joe_1981:
A spindle of decent Verbatim dual-layer discs is still $20-$30 dollars. I probably, go through a spindle a month.
Seriously? I just bought two spindles of Verbatims for 20 Euro, makes one Euro per disk, if I would buy in higher bulk rates I'd get them even cheaper. (even Amazon.com sells the 30-disk-spindles fo 32 US$ klick). And there aren't even enough games I consider worth playing that I'd use up a spindle a month, how long do you play per day (and how many coasters do you produce?)? Those 4.6 years were for an average gamer who plays for 2-3 hours a day and has something like a real life left.
Originally posted by Joe_1981:
And I've had a dozen computers and hard drives and I think, maybe, one of them has crapped out after a year. All the rest have gone 5+ years or are still going now. You shouldn't be having a hard drive crapping out every year. I'm not sure what to say about that one.
I never said anything about a harddrive crapping out every year, I just wrote "if it doesn't have to be replaced". I had my share of harddrives too, one died after three months, another one I am using since 2003, it even survived my laptop, has been in an external housing and used for video playing since then. Always these missunderstandings...
Xbox 360: Slim untouched with a faked 320 GB harddrive for XBL, phat with LT 3.0, played Halo early, so going on live would be an instand ban, also with a faked 320 GB harddrive
PS3: Untouched 160 GB Slim, 60 GB Fat with latest Rogero and 160 GB internal harddrive.
PSVita: hardly ever play it
GameCube: Black with a Viper chip installed. With gameboy player. Trying to get a Wavebird controller.
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Modking30
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1. June 2012 @ 13:44 |
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discs need repatched and reburned when new FW comes out. FW takes months. Again, I was playing XGD3 the day is released on xkey. While you guys had to wait on CFW
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CawkFour
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1. June 2012 @ 23:40 |
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Originally posted by Modking30:
and you'll never play online with the method. The xkey can go on live.
For now you can. I'm guessing that the new dash in the fall might bring some bad news for online play but we'll see. I'm sure MS got their hands on one of these a while ago and are figuring out a way to lay the banhammer down again.
C.R.3.A.M.
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KBKBKB
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2. June 2012 @ 00:06 |
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So far I have been really pleased with the XKEY.
I play most games straight off a portable 'self powered - no power supply' Intenso HDD
I propped the Xkey remote up so i can see the LED when the xbox is booting. So i know when the xkey has read the HDD. Take 30-40secs(maybe more-i can time it) on a 500GB disk full of games. Some of that 40 secs is happening while the xbox is booting.
more games on disk = more start-up time. Better to have 3x500gbHDD than a 1x2TB HDD
installing games to xbox HDD takes 50minutes!!! not 8mins like from DVD unless i format the portable HDD to ext3 or some pain in the arse format.
Firmware updates take 2 mins
1 download the update
2 edit the "config text file" to reflect ISOmenu=Y (ie select games using the xbox menu)
3 put on root of HDD
4 boot xkey - it updates
5 remember to remove the config and FW from HDD root so it doesn't check to update every time. (can update from USB stick)
no popping open the xbox case and buggering around connecting to my PC .
this used to take a good hour if i was being careful.
a bit annoying that i have to unplug the portable HDD after gaming, but i put the controller batteries back on charge after on a NYKO charger. http://www.nyko.com/products/product-de...20Station%20360
as for XKEY
Support on their forum is pretty good.
response time to games coming out that need a firmware fix has been less than 24hours so far.
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also i used to buy 10 verbatims a month nearly on ebay worked out at 70p a disk. Defo starting to save.
also with burning taking 20 minutes,
3 verbatim miss-burns and you've killed an hour of your life, and spent £2.10
and if i burned a few games in advance,then new FW came out, the new firware would stop the games working properly. so planning ahead would incur a cost of £20 or more if there was a firmware update
I dont miss all that
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2. June 2012 @ 04:48 |
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Originally posted by biglo30:
Originally posted by goyankees:
xk3y sounds like a no-brainer for the people who have the extra money to burn. Its like the guys above have said; no patching, no burning, no waiting for hack and then having to OPEN your xbox to hack, gtfoh, if all i have to pay is 100 to have the peace of mind of all of the aforementioned brings, count me in big time.
Oh yeah, I see you made the jump to 360 lol. The ps3 scene was fun while it lasted but too much drama and no unity at all.
Oh hell yeah i switched over to the xbox scene. LOLOL Yea man the ps3 scene kids were just fricking unappreciative and just plain old stupid abd whiney. The ps3 scene was majestic in the beginning but now its sh*t. When i saw the xk3y for the xbox and what it can do, i was reminded of what the ps3 was in the beginning of the kmeaw days but even better.
I must admit, it is pricey and i'm very jewey when it comes to these scenes but the features im hearing that the xk3y brings is music to my ears. im sick of having to reflash my fricking consoles and waiting for stuff and worrying about what i have to do to it to actually work etc... To hell with it and to each his own if they dont like the xk3y. Such a no-brainer. lololol
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biglo30
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4. June 2012 @ 09:36 |
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Originally posted by goyankees:
I hear you man, but back to the topic, one of the things that really grinds my gears about the xkey is having to disconnect the hard drive every time I'm done. Kinda defeats the purpose of the isomenu because I wanted that feature so I didn't have to get up lol. Also like you said games take forever to install from the hard drive and for some games I have experienced some lag which is why I installed them to the hard drive. So I think I will try a hard drive formatted in ext3 to see if that makes a difference.
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5. June 2012 @ 02:15 |
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if you dont mind me asking. Why do you have to disconnect the hard drive? Also whats the difference between formatting normally and ext3? Thanks
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KBKBKB
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5. June 2012 @ 05:07 |
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Originally posted by goyankees:
if you dont mind me asking. Why do you have to disconnect the hard drive? Also whats the difference between formatting normally and ext3? Thanks
USB on xbox stays live after you switch it off
USB powered dive = no external power supply needed
after you turn off xbox the external HDD stays live
sometimes its not enough power so it fires up and stops repeatedly
(rev click rev click rev click)
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biglo30
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6. June 2012 @ 09:21 |
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Well I just got my wasabi360. I have to say that the installation was much more then the xkey with all the extra wires, but all and all it went quite smoothly. Looks very nice and stock. Didn't have to create the firmware.bin using jungle flasher just use the simple key.bin it dumped from the start. (couldn't use the autokey extraction because its not available for all drives and none for the fat 360)
First thing I had to do after the installation of the device was load up the firmware for it in pass-through mode. That installed in like 5 secs lol. Restart the 360 and it was good to go.
Located the games using the video player for the iso menu. Games can be put on the root of the hard drive and doesn't need to be in any folder. Multi disc games can also be switched easily. What I really me was when I shut my system down and started up again it had the last game I played already loaded for me. I think that was pretty cool.
Think I will have my xkey for sale after a few more weeks of testing lol.
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KBKBKB
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6. June 2012 @ 09:42 |
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Originally posted by biglo30:
Well I just got my wasabi360. I have to say that the installation was much more then the xkey with all the extra wires, but all and all it went quite smoothly. Looks very nice and stock. Didn't have to create the firmware.bin using jungle flasher just use the simple key.bin it dumped from the start. (couldn't use the autokey extraction because its not available for all drives and none for the fat 360)
First thing I had to do after the installation of the device was load up the firmware for it in pass-through mode. That installed in like 5 secs lol. Restart the 360 and it was good to go.
Located the games using the video player for the iso menu. Games can be put on the root of the hard drive and doesn't need to be in any folder. Multi disc games can also be switched easily. What I really me was when I shut my system down and started up again it had the last game I played already loaded for me. I think that was pretty cool.
Think I will have my xkey for sale after a few more weeks of testing lol.
sounds cool bro cheers for the info
xkey can load the previous game - its a config setting
you have to wait till its booted and click open tray though
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6. June 2012 @ 10:34 |
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Originally posted by biglo30:
Didn't have to create the firmware.bin using jungle flasher just use the simple key.bin it dumped from the start. (couldn't use the autokey extraction because its not available for all drives and none for the fat 360)
So i wouldnt have to get any keys from my 360 or do i still need to get keys from my 360? Sorry i didnt really understand. Thanks man and im glad to hear the wasabi is popping!
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biglo30
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6. June 2012 @ 14:42 |
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Originally posted by goyankees:
Originally posted by biglo30:
Didn't have to create the firmware.bin using jungle flasher just use the simple key.bin it dumped from the start. (couldn't use the autokey extraction because its not available for all drives and none for the fat 360)
So i wouldnt have to get any keys from my 360 or do i still need to get keys from my 360? Sorry i didnt really understand. Thanks man and im glad to hear the wasabi is popping!
Well I thought that it would extract the key from any 360 but it only extracts the key from the slim xbox 360 liteon 16D4S with firmware 9504, 0225, 0401, 0272 and 1071. I have the phat 360 so doesn't work for me. So if you have that kind of slim drive with those firmwares it would work.
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6. June 2012 @ 14:44 |
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Originally posted by biglo30:
Originally posted by goyankees:
Originally posted by biglo30:
Didn't have to create the firmware.bin using jungle flasher just use the simple key.bin it dumped from the start. (couldn't use the autokey extraction because its not available for all drives and none for the fat 360)
So i wouldnt have to get any keys from my 360 or do i still need to get keys from my 360? Sorry i didnt really understand. Thanks man and im glad to hear the wasabi is popping!
Well I thought that it would extract the key from any 360 but it only extracts the key from the slim xbox 360 liteon 16D4S with firmware 9504, 0225, 0401, 0272 and 1071. I have the phat 360 so doesn't work for me. So if you have that kind of slim drive with those firmwares it would work.
Im sol cuz i have the fat. xk3y it is then lol
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biglo30
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6. June 2012 @ 14:44 |
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Originally posted by KBKBKB:
sounds cool bro cheers for the info
xkey can load the previous game - its a config setting
you have to wait till its booted and click open tray though
Guess the only thing I was interested in in the config file was the isomenu. I did have that on at one time but the xkey take a while to load up my hard drive. Sometimes I would have to restart my system before it works. But I will post more info later when I get more time with the wasabi.
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biglo30
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6. June 2012 @ 14:46 |
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Originally posted by goyankees:
Im sol cuz i have the fat. xk3y it is then lol
I'm really glad that it doesnt have any wires hanging out it was always afraid of my flat ribbon getting damaged because of nephews and stuff so I really like how the wasabi is built right on the system nicely.
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7. June 2012 @ 03:28 |
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Originally posted by biglo30:
Originally posted by goyankees:
Im sol cuz i have the fat. xk3y it is then lol
I'm really glad that it doesnt have any wires hanging out it was always afraid of my flat ribbon getting damaged because of nephews and stuff so I really like how the wasabi is built right on the system nicely.
Oh yeah, i teach my nephews not to even come close to em unless im around. Or i just hide em. lol
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