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hard modchip not working
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finevin
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14. February 2011 @ 15:43 |
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Hi guys,
I have a Japanese wii that i bought ready with a hard modchip installed, this was when wii had just been released.
In the past i played games and they were all fine without the games needing to update. I did however use a system update disc to update my wii to 4.0j(atleast, i remember it as 4.0j. Could be 4.01j even). After this update everything was fine, all games worked and i could access my wii system menu without that opera error message.
Problem started today when i had inserted a burned iso of Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon(2010)(PAL). Not realising that it asked to update, i clicked yes (im not japanese, so i couldnt read what it said. Now, my wii will boot and all, but i cant access my wii system menu nor will my backup games work i.e. only original games work now.
Does aaanyone out perhaps know what i can do to fix this? I am at the mercy of you all.
I have done a bit of searching and it seems that update 4.3 will even block hard modchips, on the other hand, some say they dont.
I think what had also happend is that the game must have updated a different region update like an "e" or some other region, cause the opera error message is in english.
Im assuming this is what people refer to as being "semi-bricked"?
Thank you in advance. I am honestly at your mercy as this is my first game console ever!
Many Thanks
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14. February 2011 @ 16:35 |
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you're semi-bricked. you need a real japanese copy of a game that contains either the 4.2 or 4.3 update; burned copies should NOT be used.
then you can either choose to downgrade back to 4.1 to use the modchip again, or the preferred method of softmodding and using a usb loader.
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(+[__]%) psp slim ta-085v1: 6.60 PRO B10
wii (powered by bootmii/priiloader): 4.1u - d2x v10beta53-alt (base 56) - configurable usb loader v70r51/devolution r188 - wd scorpio black 7200rpm 320gig w/ ams venus ds2 enclosure
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penguin98
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14. February 2011 @ 16:50 |
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Yep, that's a classic semi-brick. If you'd been softmodded prior to updating then there would be easy ways out of this. As it is it depends on what firmware was on the disk.
The original games that still work, are they japanese games? Firmware 4.2 and later blocks playing out-of-region games even with a modchip. If the originals that still work are not japanese, then you're on firmware 4.1.
Anyway, the simplest way to recover from a semi-brick is to update to a later firmware from a disk of the proper region. I dont know what firmware was on ghost recon though, so this may not even be possible.
You could try downloading an unscrubbed japanese copy of a recent game like mario galaxy 2 and seeing if it tries to update, it should have 4.3. If it does then it should restore the wii, but NTSCU and PAL games will still be blocked and you'll need to softmod to play them.
I think new super mario bros wii had firmware 4.2, so you should probably try that game first.
If mario galaxy won't work then you'll have to try softmodding. If you're on 4.1 or 4.2 then you should still be able to softmod using the bannerbomb method. I think anyway, I've never actually tried softmodding a semi-bricked wii. Once you're softmodded then you should be able to fix the region problems and get your games working again.
But if the wii is semi-bricked on 4.3 then bannerbomb wont work, and without being able to get into the settings you cant use any of the other exploits. In this case I really don't know what you can do besides wait for the next firmware update and hope any of the exploits still work. I'm sorry.
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12137
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14. February 2011 @ 18:03 |
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12137
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14. February 2011 @ 18:04 |
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finevin
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15. February 2011 @ 02:26 |
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Thank you both so much.
I am however not able to try anything that you have all recommended, as i have given the wii to a friend who is more familiar with gaming consoles. Hopefully he can pull through (holding thumbs).
1) I did notice that you all said updating with 4.3j will unbrick my wii, but wouldnt 4.3 actually prevent my hardmod from working?
2) Can anyone guess what version i just updated to? If the game is a 2010, i dont think it is a 4.3, think its a 4.2, am i right? As far as i know, 4.3 wasnt released in 2010.
3) Also, what is the current latest system version for a japanese wii?
Im thinking i can do what cee43ja1 said and try update to the latest firmware to unbrick the wii and then downgrade it back to 4.1j, is this possible?
Many thanks
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12137
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15. February 2011 @ 03:11 |
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Here are the answers to your questions:
1) Yes, the 4.3 update does prevent your modchip from working to a small degree, namely it stops your modchip from playing backups that are from a different region to that of the console e.g The modchip won't play NTSC on a PAL wii or vice versa, whatever the case may be. It will still however play backups that are from the same region as the console.
2) The 4.3 update was released on June 21st last year, however the update was not immediately put onto games, only the 4.2 was on disc, however since September of last year, Nintendo have put the 4.3 update on quite a few more discs, & since Ghost Recon was released in November of last year, it is reasonable to assume that the game contains either a 4.2 or 4.3 update, however we cannot be certain. There are ways of telling what update it has, but those ways are time-consuming & require a PC.
3) The Current Latest Firmware Version for a Japanese Wii is 4.3, same as everywhere else. Downgrading is possible but it is incredibly risky, & it probably won't revert your modchip back to normal if that's what you're thinking. Best to softmod for free & save yourself the risk & hassle that comes with downgrading. Once you've softmodded you can change the region to an English region & you will be able to play backups from all regions.
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finevin
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15. February 2011 @ 04:16 |
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12137, you are a total hero!!!
1) I have a japanese wii, and like you have explained, which can explain why only original and backup japanese games still work. You mentioned that 4.3 does that to the mod chip, would 4.2 do it also? ...im trying to work put what version the update was.
2) Do you perhaps have a quide to how i can check what version the update has?
3) 3.1) If the update was updated to 4.3, doesnt that mean im totally screwed untill the next update released?
3.2) Why would it not revert my modchip? I thought the chip was independant of the console?
3.3) Can softmods be done 4.3? From what iv heard, it can only be done to 4.2 and below.
Many thanks
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12137
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15. February 2011 @ 05:07 |
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Here are the answers to your questions:
1) 4.2 & 4.3 both have the exact same effect on a modchip. It is highly likely that all future updates will have this effect as well.
2) I don't have a incredibly detailed guide, but check out Post #2 of this WiiHacks Thread:
http://www.wiihacks.com/recommended-faqs-guides-tutorials-only/24965-ios-games-use-run.html
3) 3.1) No it does not, if you can softmod using the Japanese Smash Stack Exploit you can re-install the System Menu in the original region using WAD Manager.
3.2) I'm not certain it would not revert the modchip, it probably wouldn't but even so downgrading is a risky business.
3.3) Softmodding Can be accomplished on 4.3
Just to add to that, if you are able to get Japanese Smash Stack working, you can run a System Check and find out the Wii's Firmware Version, from which you can softmod using the appropriate firmware guide, or update using a disc if it's possible.
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finevin
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15. February 2011 @ 05:27 |
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Thanks for the help,
I will wait on what the friend says and then ask for all you peoples help again.
Im really hoping that the friend will be able to sort it out.
Many thanks
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16. February 2011 @ 05:35 |
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finevin why would you buy a jap wii when you dont even know how to read jap?
its best to remove your wiikey before doing anything else besides there are programs such as DarkCorp and Neogamma that dont require modchips to play backups
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17. February 2011 @ 15:40 |
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b1gh3ad - Why do you give awful (and wrong) advise. Rather than show your ignorance with incorrect information it is best to read, LEARN and then you will understand.
I have Wiikey and it has made absolutely NO difference to the soft mod. I have just left it in, to remove it unless you are careful can cause issues, leaving it there and it works fine.
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finevin
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23. February 2011 @ 09:42 |
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Why i bought a japanese wii is because i bought the wii as soon as it was released.
...what were the regions of the very first wii's to be released...?
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23. February 2011 @ 15:23 |
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3.3E for Australia
1.0U for America
1.0J for Japan
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