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tom34diy
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14. July 2010 @ 07:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hello. I just placed a legacy 80 GB internal drive in a new enclosure, and it was doing just fine. Then I wanted to format the drive, but after formatting, it now only shows about 9.5 GBs. Would someone please tell me what I need to do to make it show all 80GBs? Thanks a lot. Tom
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tom34diy
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14. July 2010 @ 07:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Not sure if this information helps anyone help me, but I tried formatting the drive again, this time using drive manager, and when I selected nfts (or whatever it is) instead of fats32, it now shows about 32GB, but still, it is an 80GB drive. Any ideas to fix it? Thanks. Tom
ddp
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14. July 2010 @ 16:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
if the internal drive is ide then how do you have it jumpered?
tom34diy
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14. July 2010 @ 21:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by ddp:
if the internal drive is ide then how do you have it jumpered?
Thanks for the reply. It was set as the master when it was in our old Dell with a 10GB drive set as the slave. I left the jumper in the same place when I stuck it in this case, so it should still be master, shouldn't it?.
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14. July 2010 @ 22:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
dell systems are usually jumpered as cable select not master & slave so confirm jumper setting. who makes the hard drive as in western digital, seagate or maxtor?
tom34diy
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14. July 2010 @ 22:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by ddp:
dell systems are usually jumpered as cable select not master & slave so confirm jumper setting. who makes the hard drive as in western digital, seagate or maxtor?
It's a Seagate.
ddp
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14. July 2010 @ 22:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
what is it jumpered as?
tom34diy
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14. July 2010 @ 23:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by ddp:
what is it jumpered as?
I'll have to take it out of the new case to double check, but as I recall, it was in the 7-8 position, which was master.
ddp
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14. July 2010 @ 23:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
the master is the jumper closes to the ide connector. is there a jumper right beside the power connector?
tom34diy
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14. July 2010 @ 23:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by ddp:
the master is the jumper closes to the ide connector. is there a jumper right beside the power connector?
I took it apart, The jumper was next to the IDE. So, I took the jumper out and put it together, did quick reformat, but still same 31 or so GBs instead of 80. Should I rearrange the jumper(s)? Thanks.
tom34diy
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14. July 2010 @ 23:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by tom34diy:
Originally posted by ddp:
the master is the jumper closes to the ide connector. is there a jumper right beside the power connector?
I took it apart, The jumper was next to the IDE. So, I took the jumper out and put it together, did quick reformat, but still same 31 or so GBs instead of 80. Should I rearrange the jumper(s)? Thanks.
There was not but one jumper on it.
tom34diy
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14. July 2010 @ 23:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I doubt it matters, but I was using this IDE drive in a Dell with Windows 98. My current desktop where this drive is connected via USB is a Dell with Windows XP. Thanks for the help. Tom
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15. July 2010 @ 00:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i've used fat32 drives connected to xp with no problems. go into disk management in administrative tools in control panel to see what it shows there. in disk management, delete the 32gig partition & make a new partition that should be full capacity of the drive.
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15. July 2010 @ 00:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If worse comes to worse use a live cd like gparted,your situation is different to mine as the old dell i have can't format above 30gb or so,to get any partition larger than that i have to use a live cd then it will read all the drive,bearing in mind this is on internal not external but i have never used the dell to format large externals,yeah anyway it has some sort of restriction built into i assume the BIOS so perhaps yours might also

tom34diy
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15. July 2010 @ 07:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by ddp:
i've used fat32 drives connected to xp with no problems. go into disk management in administrative tools in control panel to see what it shows there. in disk management, delete the 32gig partition & make a new partition that should be full capacity of the drive.
I tried and it tells me the maximum space is 31.49GB, so I cannot make it bigger. I added several partitions and deleted them, and still that is the max size. Wonder what is up? As I recall, before I ever formatted, all 80GB showed up on this computer just like they had when it was the internal drive in the old computer. Then formatting screwed it up. Thanks again for the help. Tom
tom34diy
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15. July 2010 @ 07:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by scorpNZ:
If worse comes to worse use a live cd like gparted,your situation is different to mine as the old dell i have can't format above 30gb or so,to get any partition larger than that i have to use a live cd then it will read all the drive,bearing in mind this is on internal not external but i have never used the dell to format large externals,yeah anyway it has some sort of restriction built into i assume the BIOS so perhaps yours might also
scorpNZ, I may check into the BIOS later today, but before I formatted this thing as an external drive, I think it was showing all 80GBs on this Dell through the USB plug where it is now attached. Thanks. Tom
tom34diy
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15. July 2010 @ 07:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by tom34diy:
Originally posted by scorpNZ:
If worse comes to worse use a live cd like gparted,your situation is different to mine as the old dell i have can't format above 30gb or so,to get any partition larger than that i have to use a live cd then it will read all the drive,bearing in mind this is on internal not external but i have never used the dell to format large externals,yeah anyway it has some sort of restriction built into i assume the BIOS so perhaps yours might also
scorpNZ, I may check into the BIOS later today, but before I formatted this thing as an external drive, I think it was showing all 80GBs on this Dell through the USB plug where it is now attached. Thanks. Tom
Also, I plugged it into may Gateway laptop and it showed the 31.49GB, not 80. So, would that mean it's not a Dell limit issue?
tom34diy
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15. July 2010 @ 08:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by tom34diy:
Originally posted by scorpNZ:
If worse comes to worse use a live cd like gparted,your situation is different to mine as the old dell i have can't format above 30gb or so,to get any partition larger than that i have to use a live cd then it will read all the drive,bearing in mind this is on internal not external but i have never used the dell to format large externals,yeah anyway it has some sort of restriction built into i assume the BIOS so perhaps yours might also
scorpNZ, I may check into the BIOS later today, but before I formatted this thing as an external drive, I think it was showing all 80GBs on this Dell through the USB plug where it is now attached. Thanks. Tom
I went into the BIOS and saw what I thought was this external drive. It mentioned slave and IDE, but it was in the off position. So I switched it to on. While starting up after that change, the screen said it did not recognize it, and asked if I wanted to run a utility, and I told it no. I was concerned that I might screw up our entire computer. That is getting a little further into my abilities than I think I should go. Any thoughts? Might it help if I do that again and run the utility? It's getting a little frustrating when all I wanted to do was make myself an external drive. Thanks for the help. Tom
scorpNZ
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15. July 2010 @ 13:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm not sure what the slave maybe being reported,i would assume it is an internal drive.As for only showing 30gb on the gateway the rest if i'm not mistaken is unpartitoned & will show as free space?,what is computer management showing (not to be confused with "my computer")accessed thru administritive tools then disk management will show complete partition space of all hdd's

tom34diy
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17. July 2010 @ 11:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Drive Management is only showing 32gbs.
Nothing I have done detects that this Seagate 380013A is an 80GB drive. Some of the things I have tried are,

-placed jumper in an different formations and reformatted each time, still only 32gbs.

-I formatted in nfts and the other mode, still only 32gbs.

-ran all possible tests using Seatools, etc., and drive appears to be just fine.

-I have another external drive that I bought as an external drive of 160gbs, and I plugged it in the USB port, and it shows 160gbs, so computer is apparently not limited to 32gbs.

-I copied more than 32gbs of pictures onto the Seagate 80gb drvie that is only showing 23gbs, and it stopped loading at 32gbs and said it was full.

-I inserted an old 10gbs drive into this new enclosure, and it worked just fine, so new drive enclosure appears to be working okay.

This drive worked just fine as an internal drive running win98, now it only shows 32 of 80gbs as an external drive. Any more ideas out there? Thanks. Tom M.
ddp
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17. July 2010 @ 13:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
what does it show on the label on the top of drive for capacity?
tom34diy
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17. July 2010 @ 14:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by ddp:
what does it show on the label on the top of drive for capacity?
It does not state "capacity," but it is labeled "80 gbytes." And it showed up as an 80 GB internal drive in my old Dell. It used to have Win98 on it before I formatted it with XP on this computer through the USB. Could that have anything to do with it? Thanks.
ddp
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17. July 2010 @ 15:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
has nothing to do with xp, usb(?) or fat32\ntfs as i didn't have that issue with mine. check your usb enclosure to see what the capacity limit is. are you using a desktop pc or laptop because if desktop then see if you have an ide connector on motherboard not floppy connector as it is 34 pin?
scorpNZ
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17. July 2010 @ 15:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   

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tom34diy
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17. July 2010 @ 15:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by ddp:
has nothing to do with xp, usb(?) or fat32\ntfs as i didn't have that issue with mine. check your usb enclosure to see what the capacity limit is. are you using a desktop pc or laptop because if desktop then see if you have an ide connector on motherboard not floppy connector as it is 34 pin?
I am using a desktop. I have not opened up the CPU for my desktop, but it is an SATA, so would there not be an IDE connector inside? How do I check the capacity limit on the USB? Also, as I mentioned, I have a 160 extrenal drive that works fine through the USB, but it came as an external drive.
 
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