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ica212007
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10. December 2009 @ 08:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i want to build my own pc and i am looking at motherboards and processors and which company is better because it seems like intel is charging alot more,are u just paying for the name of the company or what. any suggestions on a quad-core build
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10. December 2009 @ 16:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well AMD vs Intel is easy. Intel, they do make the higher quality cpu atm. You get what you pay for.

As for suggestions, with out a budget, we cant recommend much of anything. Is this in your budget http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115212 ? :p
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10. December 2009 @ 19:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It depends what you plan to do with your computer. If you want to build the fastest video editing computer than intel produces the fastest cpu.
Anything else will run fine with a cheaper amd chip.
I have an older amd phenom 9750, (paid 180.00 for the cpu/motherboard combo). Even though it's not as fast as the intel, for me it's an excellent cpu for my video editing needs. The newer phenom's 2 are faster and run cooler.
One thing I have noticed is that the amds run hotter than the intels, so you need a good cpu fan on those.
If you just want a fast gaming machine, get a cheaper phenom quad and use the money you save on a better video card.
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10. December 2009 @ 21:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
First of all, AMD vs Intel is a very dangerous thread title. You'll get all sorts of fanboy wars going on.
All I'll say is this:
For cheap CPUs that are great value, go AMD.
For powerful CPUs on anything other than a small to moderate budget, go Intel. The Core i5 750 is faster than anything AMD offer, and you can buy the CPU, a suitable motherboard and 4GB of appropriate RAM for less than $400 (or £350, if in the UK)



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11. December 2009 @ 02:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by sammorris:
First of all, AMD vs Intel is a very dangerous thread title. You'll get all sorts of fanboy wars going on.
All I'll say is this:
For cheap CPUs that are great value, go AMD.
For powerful CPUs on anything other than a small to moderate budget, go Intel. The Core i5 750 is faster than anything AMD offer, and you can buy the CPU, a suitable motherboard and 4GB of appropriate RAM for less than $400 (or £350, if in the UK)
Agreed...mostly (AMD does make server processors that are slightly faster than the I5...but they cost more than a Xeon.) In terms of the price of mainboard and CPU, AMD seems like a better value, but when you figure all the other parts involved in a build, and how much better they will all work with an I5, AMD looses a lot of the aparent value. Unless you are in a situation where you need lots of PCIe channels, but not an I7, there is little reason to build a new system around an AMD.


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11. December 2009 @ 07:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ok what would really help if i could get a build with everything starting with a case and explaing why you picked certain parts so i can grasp the concept. from both side if possible.
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Originally posted by ica212007:
ok what would really help if i could get a build with everything starting with a case and explaing why you picked certain parts so i can grasp the concept. from both side if possible.
The thing is that with an unlimited budget, it is all intel...with a minimal budget it is AMD (ignoring the Atom). At a certain point, you get better "Bang for the buck" out of Intel...it isn't a fixed price because there are a lot of different things people use computers for, and thus different systems focus funds in different places. It isn't a question of what company makes better processors...that company is Intel. It isn't a question of who makes more affordable processors...that is AMD. They used to both target the high-end, but at the moment, AMD is just trying to grab the value segment.

In short, the two questions that determine what brand is better for you are:
Price goal?
Useage goal?


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11. December 2009 @ 09:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i am using it for gaming and i want it to be good for a while so i want the best, so between 750 to a grand or a liitle over
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Which currency?



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$750 is right around the point where intel starts offering better gaming-only performance than AMD...$1000 is clearly in intel turf...probably a 1156 based system with a 5870.

Here is a build that is about $1060 depending on what case you choose; it gives you the power of the intel processor and the performance of the AMD video. Add about $50 for a good CPU cooler, and it should overclock like crazy.

$200 - CPU - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115215
$105 - Mainboard - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128405
$95 - 4GB RAM - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145260
$29 - DVD - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136167
$80 - Power Supply - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139004
$85 - 1TB 7200RPM Hard drive - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148433
$7 - Thermal Compound - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...Product
$410 - video - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...0-443-_-Product
~$50 - Case; many to choose from...depending on case, you might also need fans...Here is a link to a ton of cases to pick from; pick the ones that look best to you and post them here to see if they will work:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductLis...alue=548%3A8294

$20 - 120MM FAN - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185005
$15 - 80MM FAN - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185120


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THANX GUYS FOR ALL YOUR HELP
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I spam this a lot, but you will very likely regret buying that Seagate drive. I'd strongly recommend you change it for either of these:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136284
or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145304

Killerbug's video card URL hasn't been input correctly, but for that price I'm assuming he meant this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102856
An excellent suggestion. The rest of his specs are fine.



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edit. wrong thread



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Originally posted by sammorris:
I spam this a lot, but you will very likely regret buying that Seagate drive. I'd strongly recommend you change it for either of these:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136284
or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145304

Killerbug's video card URL hasn't been input correctly, but for that price I'm assuming he meant this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102856
An excellent suggestion. The rest of his specs are fine.
Close enough; I was pointing at the XFX version because it was still in stock when I posted.

I have not had heard any issues with the 1TB WD, so other than the higher price, it should be fine.


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14. December 2009 @ 08:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It wasn't that the card was out of stock, but the URL had ... in it instead of the actual link.



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