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Are SSD any good?
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N0_0ne
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8. November 2010 @ 19:05 |
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my hdd recently crashed and im conidering buying a 32gb ssd to use as my C drive. Im using windows 7 with a dual core amd and 2gb ram.
Has anyone used a ssd for there system drive and can tell me if this is a good idea , thanks?
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8. November 2010 @ 19:20 |
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Originally posted by N0_0ne:
my hdd recently crashed and im conidering buying a 32gb ssd to use as my C drive. Im using windows 7 with a dual core amd and 2gb ram.
Has anyone used a ssd for there system drive and can tell me if this is a good idea , thanks?
OCZ Vertex 2 works great for me. Greatly increased I/O, and the fact it has TRIM function supported by Win7 is a bonus.
If you don't know about TRIM or why you need it, read up before you purchase a SSD.
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8. November 2010 @ 22:22 |
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Some SSDs are good, others are absolutely terrible. Stick with either Intel, or OCZ Vertex 2 SSDs, nothing else is recommended.
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9. November 2010 @ 03:29 |
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They are great, but I think your system would benefit more from spending the money on something else.
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ps355528
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9. November 2010 @ 04:24 |
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windows will kill it in weeks.. useless constantly paging crap..
just spend the same money on 4 500gig ide drives.. they outlast the crappy sata ones by at least 5 years.. money well spent.
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N0_0ne
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9. November 2010 @ 04:34 |
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It's my parents computer, I want something thats going to last cause Im tired of being tech support for them. So does anyone else agree I should buy an ide drive? The previous one that died was sata.
Only problem is they only have one spot on the mobo for ide, and theres only two connections on that ide flat wire, one is already being used but the optical drive, is there anyway I can extend that wire or buy something that will give me more connections? Other then a pci card, is there an extension wire I can buy or one with more then 2 connections?
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N0_0ne
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9. November 2010 @ 04:40 |
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Originally posted by Deadrum33:
Originally posted by N0_0ne:
my hdd recently crashed and im conidering buying a 32gb ssd to use as my C drive. Im using windows 7 with a dual core amd and 2gb ram.
Has anyone used a ssd for there system drive and can tell me if this is a good idea , thanks?
OCZ Vertex 2 works great for me. Greatly increased I/O, and the fact it has TRIM function supported by Win7 is a bonus.
If you don't know about TRIM or why you need it, read up before you purchase a SSD.
hey, how long have you been using that as your system drive? and is the TRIM function something I have to enable or is it automatically used by win7?
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9. November 2010 @ 11:16 |
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ps355528: Please don't post if you have no idea what you're talking about.
N0: There is no sound basis for what ps3 is saying, the interface has nothing to do with the reliability of a drive, and there is an enormous performance difference between mechanical drives and SSDs.
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N0_0ne
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9. November 2010 @ 16:28 |
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I realize the performance benefits with ssd's . I guess what Im most worried about it reliability. Will it last, and is there corrupt data issues.
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9. November 2010 @ 18:31 |
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Far far fewer than mechanical drives. As long as you disable defragmentation, SSDs will outlast mechanical drives by an order of magnitude.
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9. November 2010 @ 19:58 |
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Originally posted by N0_0ne:
hey, how long have you been using that as your system drive? and is the TRIM function something I have to enable or is it automatically used by win7?
I have used a 30GBVertex for over a year, and a 50GB Vertex2 for the last 4 months.
TRIM is automatically enabled in Win7 plus there is a command line script you can run to ensure it is working properly.
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Far far fewer than mechanical drives. As long as you disable defragmentation, SSDs will outlast mechanical drives by an order of magnitude.
Agreed. However...
Some of the issues ps35528 was talking about are valid, IF...BIG IF, you use an O/S like windows XP that doesnt support TRIM and whose write scheme is not aligned with what the disk likes. Or you use a cheapo SSD that does not self correct or have the TRIM option.
Windows7 and some of the newer Linux versions have TRIM capability and need no special setup to align the disk. yes there is a limit to amount of writes to the disk a SSD can do, but its like 1000000 write cycles or around 10 years of life.
SSD for a system drive, with regular HDD as data drive is the way to go.
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9. November 2010 @ 20:22 |
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True, with WinXP an SSD is not a great idea. But nobody really has an excuse to run XP any more.
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10. November 2010 @ 00:19 |
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If it is just about reliability, then you could just get a WD laptop hard drive...it would cost less, and it should outlast the rest of that machine.
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10. November 2010 @ 01:13 |
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Why specifically a laptop drive? I don't think there's much evidence that they are more reliable than desktop hard drives.
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10. November 2010 @ 04:59 |
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They seem to be a lot more reliable than desktop drives...failure rates are about the same in spite of the fact that laptops are exposed to g forces that would kill a desktop drive in a week. Just look at the PS3...how often do you hear about a hard drive failure?
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10. November 2010 @ 10:16 |
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Who carries around a PS3 like a laptop and exposes it to "g forces that would kill a desktop drive in a week"?
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10. November 2010 @ 11:50 |
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Plenty of cases of HDDs going wrong in laptops. Given the generification of errors with consoles, I imagine there are plenty of failed drives that were masked behind general errors, i.e. YLOD/RROD.
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N0_0ne
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10. November 2010 @ 14:15 |
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fyi I went with a samsung f3 hdd. They got good reviews over at toms hardware site. Ill be purchasing a ocz vertex 2 soon for my system drive , thanks for all the info guys
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10. November 2010 @ 20:36 |
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Just for the record, toms hardware is not at all trustworthy as they were bought out by a company to bias their reviews. Samsung HDDs aren't the greatest, but you should be ok with an F3.
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11. November 2010 @ 01:11 |
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LoL...this started as a search for a more reliable drive, end ended with a Samsung? Good luck buddy; you will need it.
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N0_0ne
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11. November 2010 @ 07:28 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Just for the record, toms hardware is not at all trustworthy as they were bought out by a company to bias their reviews. Samsung HDDs aren't the greatest, but you should be ok with an F3.
good to know, whats a reliable site to use for reviews then?
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11. November 2010 @ 07:46 |
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Killerbug: To be fair, is there any hard disk brand you do like?
N0_0ne: Tricky, depends what you're looking for a review of. Generally, I use SilentPCReview and HardOCP. There are a few other reliable sites out there, tucked away :P
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12. November 2010 @ 23:58 |
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Hello Everyone,
Ssd Question here. I installed a new ssd recently. At first i cloned the drive an did the tweak to get ahci mode enabled. What i ran into was that the system was not seeing the ssd. I had to actually sit there an apply power to the ssd just after the post screen for it to see it. So I did a secure erase. Then loaded windows fresh while ahci is enabled in bios this time. after it installed an rebooted it stated ahci bios installed. Good thing. Ok so everything should be good. But for the 2 days since i did the fresh install of windows ive had to do that power up trick 2 times. It would not say ahci bios installed nor see the ssd. I'm puzzled so before i send it away to get replaced. I want to make sure that I'm not missing anything. Any help would be appreciated.
Case=Antec Lanboy, Psu=Corsair HX620, Mobo=GA-X58A-UD5,Ram=Gskill 1600Mhz 3x2gigs,Cpu=I7 950 4Ghz,Cpu Cooler= EK 240 Water Kit,Gpu=HD6870x2,Eyefinity Set up,Ssd=Gskill Phoenix Pro 120gb
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13. November 2010 @ 00:18 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Killerbug: To be fair, is there any hard disk brand you do like?
Yes...
I like seagates for 7200RPM Desktop drives, Hitachi for 10K & 15K Server Drives, WD for high-abuse laptop drives, and Hitachi for low-abuse laptop/PS3 drives. Most external drives suck, but the WD 2.5" drives seem to be very good. If seagate, hitachi, and WD all suddenly disappeared, then I might recommend Samsung.
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13. November 2010 @ 00:30 |
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To be frank, there are problems with all brands of drives really, at least in the 3.5" sector, not sure what the 2.5" market is like as I don't often recommend them.
Samsung have high disk surface errors and falsify their SMART data to hide this. WD have load cycling which can cause problems with some RAID arrays but little else, though they do have a high DOA percentage. Seagates are noisy, hot, and often have firmware issues, alongside a reasonably high DOA percentage. Hitachis are also quite noisy, and seem to have issues with long-term longevity that I've seen.
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