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Building new PC. Want opinions on my build
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rockytrh
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4. August 2009 @ 20:22 |
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4. August 2009 @ 21:35 |
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rockytrh
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4. August 2009 @ 21:48 |
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This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 4. August 2009 @ 21:56
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4. August 2009 @ 22:33 |
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Never had any problems with GIGABYTE mobo so can say is a good choice in mobo but I did notice that it has 1 PATA connector I don't know how that case looks inside but if your going to connect both HDD and optical drive you might run into some problems and slowdowns due to shearing that channel with an optical drive. I really recommend getting a SATA HDD, and use the PATA for your optical drive. As for processor it depends on what programs you are going to be running.
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gera229
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4. August 2009 @ 22:49 |
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What's a modular PSU? And is your DVD burner SATA, or IDE(PATA)?
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rockytrh
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4. August 2009 @ 23:02 |
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A modular PSU is one that the plugs can come out of and you can put just what you want (makes it cleaner). I also decided to buy a SATA hdd due to the thought that having a and ide optical drive and a ide hdd would be a stretch with only a single PATA slot. My dvd drive is IDE.
Keep the suggestions coming, every suggestion has saved me some problems!
For programs, i just plan on using it for sofware development, web development, basic stuff like email and web browsing, and games.
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4. August 2009 @ 23:03 |
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4. August 2009 @ 23:08 |
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rockytrh that processor is quite good even for most games, most games care for GPU anyway.
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rockytrh
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4. August 2009 @ 23:21 |
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That is why i got a GTX 260 :) That card is going to be sweet.
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rockytrh
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4. August 2009 @ 23:30 |
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I also updated my first post to reflect the changes I have made.
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5. August 2009 @ 00:26 |
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I had one of the early GTX 260, and did great things for me I'm sure the new one runs better.
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Xplorer4
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5. August 2009 @ 06:19 |
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http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/Public...Number=12222346
First off the GTX260 isnt a full GB of VRAM. The card here is. The 260 is GDDR3 while the 4870 i listed here is GDDR5. Faster/better card, less money.
Patriot makes good RAM, but for a little more I would get a better set, and you dont need 8GB of RAM. 4 GB will do fine.
Bigger hard drive, and better performing. More cache. Trust me I jumped from a Seagate 750 GB 7200 RPM 16 MB cache to a 1 TB WD Caviar Black 7200 RPM and 32 MB cache. The seagate ran XP, the WD is running Vista, and yet I still see a nice performance boost. If your dead set on a 640 GB atleast get the 630 GB Caviar Black with 32 MB cache from WD.
You never stated a purpose for the PC other the OCing. Are you gaming, doing video editing/encoding, gaming, 3d modeling,etc? Based on the desire to OC I choose a high end quad. If your gaming though the Core 2 Duo are better.
Do you have a keyboard or mouse?
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rockytrh
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5. August 2009 @ 09:01 |
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Originally posted by rockytrh:
For programs, i just plan on using it for sofware development, web development, basic stuff like email and web browsing, and games.
I'm going to take your advice on the ram and the HDD. I'll look into ATI graphics cards too. I'm a pretty big fan of NVidia though. I'll have to go look for benchmarks and such. Its too bad the card you posted is out of stock at newegg right now. Hopefully they get more in soon (if I decide to go with that card).
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Xplorer4
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5. August 2009 @ 17:18 |
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Oh and its DX 10.1 instead of DX 10. Not a huge jump but supposedly only certain ATI cards fully support DX 10.1 and this is one of them.
Depending on how soon you need it there also this card:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102815
Its a higher end 4870 so it costs more then the 4870 i linked to but it still puts you under budget.
I dont know how hardcore your going to be on software development and gaming but you could squeeze out an i7 build for $1000 and realistically its going to future proof you a bit more then the quad system. The quad will get the job done none the same.
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rockytrh
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5. August 2009 @ 18:52 |
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I decided to go with a gtx 275 instead of the gtx 260, called it good and put the order through. Came to $920 after shipping with $60 in MIRs. I think it will be a pretty good system for $860 net.
Thanks for all your help!
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Xplorer4
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6. August 2009 @ 01:54 |
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No problem. Hopes the info helped.
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 6. August 2009 @ 01:58
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6. August 2009 @ 06:27 |
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No problem, tell as how the build came up and maybe some bench if you have the time :)
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6. August 2009 @ 08:24 |
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A bit late to the game on this one. To be honest, the build was pretty solid from the start (which isn't especially common). Since you edited your first post, I can't tell exactly what you went with, but a 750W PSU is frankly overkill to the extreme for that system (you could have got away with a 400W PSU with a pci express power adapter, certainly a modular 520W HX would have done). If you're using low resolutions the GTX275 is a perfectly decent card, maybe not quite as good value as the HD4890, but reasonable enough.
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rockytrh
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6. August 2009 @ 08:51 |
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I'll post some benchmarks when I get it built.
I know the psu was probably overkill, but in addition to these components, i have 3 1TB drives that I raid5 for data storage/serving (this is going to be fun to move over), a soundblaster audigy 2 with a breakout box (that i use all the time for audio recording), another large IDE drive that is used almost strictly for storage (it is in a 5.25 cage that I can pull out and put back in with different drives), a PCI RAID card, a wireless n card, and I wanted to have enough that if I needed to add more disks to my raid, power wouldn't be an issue.
Also, if you look at benchmarks the gtx275 generally outperforms the HD 4890. I realize with less V-Ram it won't be able to do quite the high res/AA as the 4890, but what can I say, I'm a Nvidia fan :)
I'll update my first post with what I went with after submitting this.
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6. August 2009 @ 09:05 |
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You do realise that software RAID usually breaks when you migrate it to a different controller?
I run 9 hard drives off a 380W PSU with a graphics card that only uses about 60W less than the GTX275, and a CPu that uses the same amount of power. Seriously, what I said before still stands :P
As for the nvidia fan, what I usually say in this instance is 'you paid extra money for an nvidia badge' because it's true. The GTX275 and HD4890 are essentially performance equals in as far as what you actually notice in the real world. The only exceptions to this are ofc the nvidia programmed titles like GTA4 and Crysis.
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gera229
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9. August 2009 @ 00:53 |
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"You do realise that software RAID usually breaks when you migrate it to a different controller?"
I wonder what this means.
And what's ofc?
BTW the hd4890 is better for the price than the GTX275.
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Xplorer4
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9. August 2009 @ 04:24 |
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Originally posted by gera229:
"You do realise that software RAID usually breaks when you migrate it to a different controller?"
I wonder what this means.
And what's ofc?
BTW the hd4890 is better for the price than the GTX275.
It means your likely to have problems because your running software raid, not a hardware RAID as servers usually do. Switching from system to system causes problems in these types of RAID set ups from what Sam is saying. I cant elaborate much because I havent personally heard that but Sams pretty much the most respected builder in these parts so I would value his input.
ofc=of course.
The 4890 is really the better value. Your getting more for your money and the benchmarks are pretty much the same.
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Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115037
** decided to go dual core instead of quad for various reasons **
From the sound of it your better of with a quad core unless your focus is mainly gaming.
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Patriot PDC24G6400ELK Ram (4 sticks @ 2 GB each)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220227
** Decided to keep 8 GB. I may do some video editing in the future and I would also like to try my hand at 3D model editing **
I work with 3D Models and everything that comes along with that. Not to mention video editing and converting. Trust me when I say 8 GB is a waste. I never ever run up 4 GB of memory and I am constantly multitasking on top of working with models, photoshop, and video converting. Drop to 4 GB and get a quad core.
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Unless your going to OC(over clock) you dont need it. Never hurts to make sure your temps stay down but the stock Intel hsf(heat sink fan) will do just fine even under alot of abuse.
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9. August 2009 @ 07:51 |
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The price difference with CPUs now is such that no gaming PC should have a dual core CPU in it any more unless it's cheap. There is no advantage to buying an expensive dual core CPU at all now.
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Xplorer4
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9. August 2009 @ 07:53 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
The price difference with CPUs now is such that no gaming PC should have a dual core CPU in it any more unless it's cheap. There is no advantage to buying an expensive dual core CPU at all now.
I thought dual cores offered more fps over a quad? I dont see what all the fuss is about fps so long as a game plays smooth, but then again I am not a hardcore gamer.
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9. August 2009 @ 07:59 |
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No, only if they're based off a faster CPU. Dual cores aren't really any faster. The E8400 is 166mhz faster than the Q9550 but the lower cache means it's very similar in terms of performance. You have to get an E8500 to get a performance boost over a Q9550, and it's almost the same price as one, but you only get a dual core. With more and more games making use of extra cores, a dual core is only a wise investment for a lightweight system when a quad core is too expensive.
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