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Hello I need some advice for building a super computer!
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MCPROTEUS
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13. July 2009 @ 18:48 |
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Hello After Dawn Forum humans !!
I could use a little help. OK here is my plan. I have made friends with very nice computer guy who owns his own computer
store and he told me that if I tell him what I want then he will build me a computer. The best part is he said he will
promise to fix absolutely anything that goes wrong with it for the next 6 years. I would not even have to pay bus fare. I
could just throw it in a suitcase with a handle and wheels and drag it a few blocks and wham! End of problem.... I think that
is the best part : ) .. OK so moving on with it.... OK here is my plan
I want to go " crazy " with this computer but not completely totally crazy. What I mean is I know that is someone wants to go
all out and get the most amazing computer that there are $2000 video cards and there are $1500 CPU's I know that stuff exists
.. However I want to spend about $3000 - $4000 on the whole thing. I would like to go a little bit over the top and get a
really powerful computer. What I plan on doing is I will get the computer made by that guy which is awesome because I will
get the man to man hand shake that he will fix anything for free for the next 6 years ..... I find that awesome !!! And then
I plan on I guess going College and Spadina to get all the accessories I want. I think I will buy my LCD Screens and other
stuff in Toronto. I am going to go to Canada Computers and buy all the other stuff besides the computer tower. Unless someone
knows where I could go in St. Catharines. I am thinking Canada Computers might be better then Best Buy or Future Shop
........anyways moving on.....
OK here is the deal .... I want to sort of go " all out " with this machine.....
this is what I am thinking
- Sonata III 500 Computer Case
- 3 1 Terabyte Western Digital ( Caviar Black or Green I can't remember ) Internal Hard Drive
- I was goign to ask for a 300 GIG 10,000 RPM Raptor " performance drive " but my new computer freind said that is not a
good idea and he wants to give me another drive for my c drive aka the drive with all my programs. The drive he wants to give
is like 120 GB. I asked if I could get something bigger or does it come bigger and he sort of looked at me like I was on
drugs and said I would never need anything bigger then 120. I don't know maybe I am too much like a big kid but I really
liked the sound of that Raptor performance Drive thing. Sounded wicked !!! OK moving on....
OK I want ... OK I know this is crazy but I am thinking about asking for 24 GIGS of RAM... Ok OK OK Well I might get 12... I
know it's insane but part of me just wants to say screw it and get 24 GIGS of RAM... I know I think it almost makes no sense
to get that much RAM but I don't know I have got something wrong with me. should I get 12 - 18 or 24 ??? Someone tell me ....
OK moving on again
I also want 1 Blue Ray Burner
- 1 DVD Burner
- A awesome CPU ( I don't know much about CPU's but I am just going to ask for a " Awesome " one.. I guess I will spend like
$500 on it
- I want a awesome video card ( I am not a gamer but I would like to try. To be honest I think I might be borderline mentally
changed .. I can't play FPS First Person Shooters. I play Bionic Commando and Blaster Master with Emulators ... So yeah I
guess I just want a awesome video card. Like $400 - $700 Video Card ....
OK that is it for the actual computer ....... I then plan on going to College And Spadina In Toronto and probably going to
Canada Computers ( Unless someone can convince me to go to Best Buy or Future Shop or something ) and I plan on buying the
following... what the word? What do you call computer things outside of the case or tower?? Anyways That guy at the store
seems very smart and I can walk there and he is going to give me that crazy unorthodox 6 year handshake I don't care I will
fix anything for 6 years deal. So yeah I am going to get that made by him. But his store does not have a lot of accessories
and stuff ..... So I think I will go to Canada Computers in Toronto and get the following ( Should I maybe find a Tiger
Direct? Are they better and cheaper? OK anyways I plan on going to Canada Computers and get the Computer and get the
following
- 2 GIANT awesome LCD Screens ( Any advice what kind I should get ? ) - Also I guess I better make sure I got a video card
with two VGA'S right ??
- very high quality Wireless Skype Headset
-Some neat Light Up keyboard ( I want a star trek light up glowing alien keyboard or something LOL )
-awesome Wireless Mouse ( Any advice there at all? Maybe I will not get wireless of a mouse who cares right? What's the
difference? )
- Some awesome Web cam
- A once touch external Back up drive with one touch back up ( Actually this sort of belongs up at the top because I am going
to buy this from said local computer guy. He even said he would teach me how to use it : )
- A Monster awesome power bar
- a back up power supply
- A Computer Screen cleaning kit ( Kind of silly but whatever is Windex just as good?? )
OK ( DRUM ROLL ) this is the point of the post !!! I need advice on some other fun stuff to add to this " ED 209 " computer!
What are some other " bells and whistles " that I could get? Cool interesting stuff. If anyone has any advice please tell me
...
ALSO this is very VERY important please listen to this. I really wanted a science fiction anime style CRAZY computer case. But
one of my many uber-smart tech friends told me they are useless and I would be nuts to buy one of those things that looks
like it will make you toast in the morning. So I am going to buy the case he recommend...
IS there ANYONE here who knows of a computer case that look like Megatron but is also a real excellent case??? If no one can
provide me proof of one that exists I am going to buy the one he recommenced.. If someone could tell me about a awesome
looking case and send me links I will ask my tech dude if its OK. It would be SO NICE to have a case that looks like a rocket
ship but is also good in terms of " real tech guy " standards..... I tried to Google " anime computer cases " or " awesome
computer cases " or " alien computer cases " I just got pictures of ridiculous cases that look like the Borg or something
.......
OK that's about it. I am going to go work out at the gym and dream about all you smart guys telling me about neat and awesome
extra features for my new beast !!!!! LOL...........SoooOOoo Excited !!! ROCK ..................
- OH even though I am getting an Alarm system are there some things I could buy to wire up and lock down all my computer
gear? Like metal cords with locks I could drill into the wall? That would be nice theft prevention overkill.....
HmmMMmMMMmMMMmm...............Ok so yeah.................. What else can I put on this " ED - 209 " computer?????
any neat toys and extra things would be cool !!!! ROCK !!
Thank you very much !!
my e-mail is proteus@alteredbeats.ca
thank you
technolust
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jony218
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13. July 2009 @ 19:46 |
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If you want a very fast computer and it seems price is not an issue with your creation. You need a pair of Intel X25-M SSD hard drives running in a RAID 0. The drives are only 80gb so you will also need to install another large conventional drive for data storage.
Each of these drives run about $350.00 (not cheap) but the performance on these put's a 10000 rpm raptor to shame.
The cpu's / memorys are already reaching speeds where conventional drives are beginning to have problems keeping up with them.
There are different brands of ssd's but only the Intel X25-M SSD, are "new generation" type of circuits, that will beat the raptors.
Go to youtube and type in Intel X25-M SSD , it might be a good idea to build your computer around these types of hard drives.
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13. July 2009 @ 21:13 |
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An Antec TwelveHundred case?
What about an Intel Core i7 975 for the processor?
(or if you want to be a sane person, simply a 920 overclocked to beyond 975 speeds)
Two nVidia GTX295s in QuadSLI for graphics cards?
Only go with 12GB of RAM; you'll be wanting 6 x 2GB DDR3 2000MHz @ CL8
(in one review of a Mushkin kit a guy got it to 1800MHz+ @ CL6, pretty damn impressive)
+1 on the Intel X25s :D
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MCPROTEUS
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14. July 2009 @ 08:03 |
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Originally posted by Shokz:
An Antec TwelveHundred case?
hey man
I went to your link and then I wanted a better look at that case so I Google image searched it. When I did that I found this thing
http://images.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=ht...Svv3FpXcNr-P-X4
Is this is good case? I hope so because I think I want this thing. This looks wicked !!
Maybe this sounds silly but I am sorry but I don't like the look of the front of that Antec TwelveHundred case. It's looks like a grate or a fence or something? Where are the Drives and USB Ports and headphone jacks and everything??
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14. July 2009 @ 19:38 |
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it's OK-ish, but I'd take a HAF 932 over either.
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14. July 2009 @ 19:40 |
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The HAF 932's really that good? :o
*notes down as the case he NEEDS to get when he builds his next computer* :D
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14. July 2009 @ 19:42 |
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I prefer it, because it's nowhere near as noisy as other cases, is cheap and has wheels! It's also about as versatile as cases get, two-way PSU mounts, loads of fan positions and drive bays.
The Antec is better built than the coolermaster (both are better built than the Thermaltake) but is ridiculously noisy, and very expensive - it's also quite restricted for side airflow and the PSU can only go in one place.
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14. July 2009 @ 19:46 |
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*ignores rest of message and focuses on a single detail*
Did you say wheels?
*is sold*
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14. July 2009 @ 19:48 |
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Oh yes, complete with brakes. very handy when you have a case that weighs that much.
Four 120mm side fans (replacing a singular 230mm), a 140mm rear fan (upgraded from stock 1000rpm 7-blade to 1500rpm 11-blade), top 230mm (standard) and 120mm 1600rpm white LED (added) - front red LED 230mm (stock) is how I have mine configured.
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14. July 2009 @ 19:53 |
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Prototype build list
Core i7 920 CPU
Noctua NH-U12P LGA1366 cooler
Gigabyte EX58-Extreme motherboard
XFX ATI Radeon HD4870X2 graphics card
3x2GB Corsair Dominator PC12800 DDR3 RAM
Zalman ZM850-HP Power supply
1x WD1500HLFS WD Velociraptor
1x WD1001FALS WD Caviar Black
1x WD20EADS WD Caviar Green 2TB
Optiarc 24x DVD burner
Coolermaster HAF932 case
Razer Deathadder mouse
Razer Lycosa keyboard
Razer Goliathus mousemat
Dell Ultrasharp 3008WFP monitor
Logitech Z-5500 Speakers
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14. July 2009 @ 19:58 |
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Quote:
XFX ATI Radeon HD4870X2 graphics card
3x2GB Corsair Dominator PC12800 DDR3 RAM
If he's gunna be spending up to $4k, don't you think he can do a little better? ;)
Sure it's burning money, but you know the two GTX295s make sense :D
*thinks of playing Crysis at Very High at 2560x1600*
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14. July 2009 @ 19:59 |
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Just because people have money to spend, doesn't mean they should waste it.
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14. July 2009 @ 20:00 |
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But but but even one GTX295 is better :)
What about two GTX275s, then?
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14. July 2009 @ 20:01 |
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14. July 2009 @ 20:06 |
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Look what i've found :)
Awesome.
Interestingly, nVidia can't be arsed with the GTX295 SLI it looks like :P
The 4870X2 CrossfireX looks pretty impressive though (and a lot cheaper than going GTX275 / GTX280 TripleSLI).
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14. July 2009 @ 20:08 |
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That's crysis, the most nvidia-biased game on the planet. The performance of GTX295 SLI at 2560x1600 is exactly the point I'm trying to prove.
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14. July 2009 @ 20:11 |
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I actually just looked up the prices on newegg... A GTX275 TripleSLI would only set you back $600 and odd. Two 4870X2s are $700 and odd :o
I'll check out the other benchmarks ^.^
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14. July 2009 @ 20:12 |
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Triple SLI also fills the entirity of your slots on a motherboard, and still has the same memory problems at 2560x1600. You can't directly compare GTX280s and GTX275s, they are not the same.
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14. July 2009 @ 20:14 |
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Yeah, i know, but the GTX280 is only $10-20 more (i was pretty shocked too), and to be honest it's hardly any better.
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14. July 2009 @ 20:16 |
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It deals with 2560x1600 a lot better, but it's been discontinued now in favour of the GTX285. On cost basis, the HD4870X2 singular is among the best options. it doesn't get flustered at high resolutions, and although its performance doesn't match that of the GTX295 arithmetically, in the real world it can do everything the 295 can for less cost.
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14. July 2009 @ 20:18 |
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I get where you're coming from :)
If he's not bothered about 2560x1600 then the 4870X2 would be fine i guess, but considering even a GTX280 SLI would only be $50 more, it's quite enticing ;)
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14. July 2009 @ 20:20 |
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It's going to cost a lot more than that in the long run though from the energy consumption, and scuppers upgrade plans. Most i7 boards can't triple SLI. With two GPUs on one card, you get much more future upgrade potential by using an X2 card.
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14. July 2009 @ 20:26 |
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Hmmm, i suppose so :D
You know i should just never argue with you, you're always infallible :P
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14. July 2009 @ 20:31 |
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Well, when you spend as much money in this field as I have, you take considerable time researching what is the best option.
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14. July 2009 @ 20:38 |
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True i guess :)
I wouldn't be spending this amount of money in the first place... Maybe a single GTX275 at most :P
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