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I Need Help Upgrading An Old AGP PC
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19. October 2011 @ 12:50 |
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Ok, my fiancee has an old computer which she uses for internet, watching films & email.
I wanted to upgrade it a bit so that i can play games on it, but unfortunately it has an AGP motherboard, onboard GFX & 256MB ram.
Ive just bought a BFG Geforce 7600GS 512MB AGP GFX card & am looking at 2GB DDR 400 PC3200 ram as well.
I got the BFG 7600GS for £23, is this a good card & is that a good price ?
Im not looking to run the latest games on highest resolutions, just games like PES, Company Of Heroes, Half Life 2 etc.
Im unsure what this motherboard goes down as when trying to look it up on google, because when i use Everest it says :-
Motherboard Name - Biostar P4M80-M4/P4M800-M7A/P4M800Pro-D1/P4M800 Pro-M7/P4M800 Pro-M7 Combo.
Whereas, On the motherboard it says P4M800 775.
Can anyone recommend decent memory for this set up at a half decent price ?
Preferably off ebay or Scan.
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Field Value
Computer
Computer Type ACPI Uniprocessor PC
Operating System Microsoft Windows XP Professional
OS Service Pack Service Pack 3
Internet Explorer 8.0.6001.18702 (IE 8.0)
DirectX 4.09.00.0904 (DirectX 9.0c)
Computer Name NELLYANDPAMMYS
User Name Administrator
Logon Domain NELLYANDPAMMYS
Date / Time 2011-10-19 / 17:46
Motherboard
CPU Type Intel Celeron D 331, 2666 MHz (20 x 133)
Motherboard Name Biostar P4M80-M4 / P4M800-M7A / P4M800Pro-D1 / P4M800 Pro-M7 / P4M800 Pro-M7 Combo
Motherboard Chipset VIA CN700 / P4M800 CE / P4M800 Pro / VN800
System Memory 192 MB (PC3200 DDR SDRAM)
DIMM1: Nanya M2U25664DS88C3G-5T 256 MB PC3200 DDR SDRAM (3.0-3-3-8 @ 200 MHz) (2.5-3-3-7 @ 166 MHz)
BIOS Type Award (08/17/05)
Communication Port Communications Port (COM1)
Communication Port Printer Port (LPT1)
Display
Video Adapter VIA/S3G UniChrome Pro IGP (64 MB)
3D Accelerator VIA/S3G UniChrome Pro
Monitor Compaq V570 [15" CRT] (215BM24GC121)
Multimedia
Audio Adapter Realtek ALC655 @ VIA AC'97 Enhanced Audio Controller
Storage
IDE Controller Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller
IDE Controller VIA Bus Master IDE Controller
Disk Drive ST320011A (20 GB, 7200 RPM, Ultra-ATA/100)
Disk Drive WDC WD800BB-00JHC0 (74 GB, IDE)
Optical Drive PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-111D (DVD+R9:8x, DVD-R9:8x, DVD+RW:16x/8x, DVD-RW:16x/6x, DVD-ROM:16x, CD:40x/32x/40x DVD+RW/DVD-RW)
SMART Hard Disks Status OK
Partitions
C: (NTFS) 76308 MB (39269 MB free)
E: (NTFS) 19084 MB (4936 MB free)
Total Size 93.2 GB (43.2 GB free)
Input
Keyboard Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard
Mouse HID-compliant mouse
Network
Primary IP Address 192.168.0.2
Primary MAC Address 00-E0-4C-E9-94-D6
Network Adapter Bluetooth Device (Personal Area Network) #2
Network Adapter Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI Fast Ethernet NIC (192.168.0.2)
Modem Standard Modem over Bluetooth link
Peripherals
USB1 Controller VIA VT8237 USB Universal Host Controller
USB1 Controller VIA VT8237 USB Universal Host Controller
USB1 Controller VIA VT8237 USB Universal Host Controller
USB1 Controller VIA VT8237 USB Universal Host Controller
USB2 Controller VIA VT8237 USB 2.0 Enhanced Host Controller
USB Device Generic Bluetooth Radio
USB Device USB Human Interface Device
DMI
DMI BIOS Vendor Phoenix Technologies, LTD
DMI BIOS Version 6.00 PG
DMI System Manufacturer
DMI System Product
DMI System Version
DMI System Serial Number
DMI System UUID 00000000-00000000-00E00000-4CE994D6
DMI Motherboard Manufacturer
DMI Motherboard Product P4M800CE-8237
DMI Motherboard Version
DMI Motherboard Serial Number
DMI Chassis Manufacturer
DMI Chassis Version
DMI Chassis Serial Number
DMI Chassis Asset Tag
DMI Chassis Type Desktop Case
DMI Total / Free Memory Sockets 2 / 0
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19. October 2011 @ 23:23 |
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1. December 2011 @ 05:46 |
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Originally posted by dougal79:
Ok, my fiancee has an old computer which she uses for internet, watching films & email.
I wanted to upgrade it a bit so that i can play games on it, but unfortunately it has an AGP motherboard, onboard GFX & 256MB ram.
Ive just bought a BFG Geforce 7600GS 512MB AGP GFX card & am looking at 2GB DDR 400 PC3200 ram as well.
I got the BFG 7600GS for £23, is this a good card & is that a good price ?
Im not looking to run the latest games on highest resolutions, just games like PES, Company Of Heroes, Half Life 2 etc.
Im unsure what this motherboard goes down as when trying to look it up on google, because when i use Everest it says :-
Motherboard Name - Biostar P4M80-M4/P4M800-M7A/P4M800Pro-D1/P4M800 Pro-M7/P4M800 Pro-M7 Combo.
Whereas, On the motherboard it says P4M800 775.
Can anyone recommend decent memory for this set up at a half decent price ?
Preferably off ebay or Scan.
Below is a summary off Everest:-
Thanks
Field Value
Computer
Computer Type ACPI Uniprocessor PC
Operating System Microsoft Windows XP Professional
OS Service Pack Service Pack 3
Internet Explorer 8.0.6001.18702 (IE 8.0)
DirectX 4.09.00.0904 (DirectX 9.0c)
Computer Name NELLYANDPAMMYS
User Name Administrator
Logon Domain NELLYANDPAMMYS
Date / Time 2011-10-19 / 17:46
Motherboard
CPU Type Intel Celeron D 331, 2666 MHz (20 x 133)
Motherboard Name Biostar P4M80-M4 / P4M800-M7A / P4M800Pro-D1 / P4M800 Pro-M7 / P4M800 Pro-M7 Combo
Motherboard Chipset VIA CN700 / P4M800 CE / P4M800 Pro / VN800
System Memory 192 MB (PC3200 DDR SDRAM)
DIMM1: Nanya M2U25664DS88C3G-5T 256 MB PC3200 DDR SDRAM (3.0-3-3-8 @ 200 MHz) (2.5-3-3-7 @ 166 MHz)
BIOS Type Award (08/17/05)
Communication Port Communications Port (COM1)
Communication Port Printer Port (LPT1)
Display
Video Adapter VIA/S3G UniChrome Pro IGP (64 MB)
3D Accelerator VIA/S3G UniChrome Pro
Monitor Compaq V570 [15" CRT] (215BM24GC121)
Multimedia
Audio Adapter Realtek ALC655 @ VIA AC'97 Enhanced Audio Controller
Storage
IDE Controller Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller
IDE Controller VIA Bus Master IDE Controller
Disk Drive ST320011A (20 GB, 7200 RPM, Ultra-ATA/100)
Disk Drive WDC WD800BB-00JHC0 (74 GB, IDE)
Optical Drive PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-111D (DVD+R9:8x, DVD-R9:8x, DVD+RW:16x/8x, DVD-RW:16x/6x, DVD-ROM:16x, CD:40x/32x/40x DVD+RW/DVD-RW)
SMART Hard Disks Status OK
Partitions
C: (NTFS) 76308 MB (39269 MB free)
E: (NTFS) 19084 MB (4936 MB free)
Total Size 93.2 GB (43.2 GB free)
Input
Keyboard Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard
Mouse HID-compliant mouse
Network
Primary IP Address 192.168.0.2
Primary MAC Address 00-E0-4C-E9-94-D6
Network Adapter Bluetooth Device (Personal Area Network) #2
Network Adapter Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI Fast Ethernet NIC (192.168.0.2)
Modem Standard Modem over Bluetooth link
Peripherals
USB1 Controller VIA VT8237 USB Universal Host Controller
USB1 Controller VIA VT8237 USB Universal Host Controller
USB1 Controller VIA VT8237 USB Universal Host Controller
USB1 Controller VIA VT8237 USB Universal Host Controller
USB2 Controller VIA VT8237 USB 2.0 Enhanced Host Controller
USB Device Generic Bluetooth Radio
USB Device USB Human Interface Device
DMI
DMI BIOS Vendor Phoenix Technologies, LTD
DMI BIOS Version 6.00 PG
DMI System Manufacturer
DMI System Product
DMI System Version
DMI System Serial Number
DMI System UUID 00000000-00000000-00E00000-4CE994D6
DMI Motherboard Manufacturer
DMI Motherboard Product P4M800CE-8237
DMI Motherboard Version
DMI Motherboard Serial Number
DMI Chassis Manufacturer
DMI Chassis Version
DMI Chassis Serial Number
DMI Chassis Asset Tag
DMI Chassis Type Desktop Case
DMI Total / Free Memory Sockets 2 / 0
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10. March 2013 @ 11:58 |
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10. March 2013 @ 14:37 |
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that setup is pretty much exactly what my first computer had and unless solitaire is your game it aint getting much better.i upgraded to 2gigs of ram,windows 7 and an invidia 7600gtx with igig memory and it still was a slug.im my opinion i would save my money and buy something else.btw my old rig is sitting at my front door.im trying to give it away but no takers yet.lol.
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10. March 2013 @ 15:32 |
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dougal79, that ebay card is not an agp card but is a pci\e 16 videocard so is not compatible with your motherboard.
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20. March 2013 @ 07:40 |
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Ok cheers for the input guys :)
I was thinking of bidding on this PC on ebay :-
XASER 3 case from Thermal take
Asus P4P-800VM Mother board with a pentium 4 3 ghz processor,
Soundblaster audigy 2 zs soundcard,
HD103SJ 1TB SAMUSUNG HARDDRIVE
HIS ICE Q TURBO HD2600XT graphics card with HDMI out,
Dlink aero plus G wireless card.
Logitech MX518 gaming mouse
Logitech USB headset
Logitech G11 Glow in the dark keyboard
Logitech Rightlight webcam and Mic
Just wondering what you guys thought.
Only need it for gaming & maybe hook it up to my HD tv.
Don't really want to spend too much just now on a top end rig,
would rather wait until the end of the year.
Would this play most games that are out just now ?
Cheers
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20. March 2013 @ 10:45 |
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im sure others more competent than i will chime in here,but in my opinion,its really no different than what you have.being a p4 its an older processor than your celeron and, if i am correct is still only a single core processor.you can add the best video card in the world but if your processor isnt up to par it will do no good.your rig is only as good as the weakest link.i dont game but i would advise a quad core processor here with a decent video card and ram.how much was the bid up to on this rig? something like that where i live would be getting hard to give away.i dont mean to be harsh by the way,just giving mho.cheers.i will add too that that video card is 6 years since release and was never touted as a gaming card.
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21. March 2013 @ 10:23 |
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21. March 2013 @ 11:30 |
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wow electronics are expensive over there.i like the q6600,but keep in mind it looks like its only a board and processor,albeit with ram.you will still need a video card.over here in canada,the equivalent of 400 pounds would buy not a bad tower complete.cheers.
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21. March 2013 @ 12:08 |
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Yeah its really expensive in the UK.
I like the Q6600 as well, but as you say i'd still need to purchase a GFX card as well as a PSU, Case etc.
Just spotted this on ebay :-
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ASUS-NVIDIA-G...=item1e78471acb
Thinking of buying the Q6600 along with this card, what do you think ?
Cheers
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21. March 2013 @ 12:18 |
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seems to be alright.
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21. March 2013 @ 12:32 |
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21. March 2013 @ 12:42 |
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what video connector(s) does your monitor have as both the 1st & 3rd card does not have vga & 2nd card doesn't say what it has?
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21. March 2013 @ 12:59 |
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It's just a standard monitor :/
I could always buy a new monitor that supports mini HDMI.
I have an HD TV with 4 HDMI connectors, but doesn't support Mini HDMI.
Can i get something to connect Mini HDMI to an HDMI slot ?
Cheers
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21. March 2013 @ 13:06 |
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cards 1 & 3 use dvi connectors so if your monitor only has vga then can get a vga to dvi connector as i have 1 in my hand right now.
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21. March 2013 @ 13:18 |
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21. March 2013 @ 13:32 |
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that monitor does not have hdmi just vga & dvi. vga to dvi adapter if buying 1 of those cards when using your current monitor. both of my 24" HD 1080 acer monitors has vga, dvi & hdmi as does my radeon hd6450 1gig video cards.
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21. March 2013 @ 13:59 |
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21. March 2013 @ 14:06 |
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that is a good card.i have an old hd4870 with no complaints and this one is head and shoulders above that.
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21. March 2013 @ 14:08 |
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mine is the 1gig version wereas that is the 2gig version. don't know about that card as i got a friend for christmas i think the g260 version with 1gig of ram with same connectors as mine. paid between $40-$50Can for it this past christmas.
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21. March 2013 @ 14:12 |
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Thanks for the quick reply guys :)
Last thing, should i get this Mobo/CPU to go with the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 275 ?
Reckon i could get the Mobo/CPU/GFX card for about £100..
Then all i would need is a Case/Ram/HDD/PSU.
Cheers
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21. March 2013 @ 14:35 |
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what, the quad core & board?
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21. March 2013 @ 14:44 |
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I could get the Quad core & board for about £60 including P&P.
The GFX card for about £45 including P&P.
Just not sure if it's worth it tho !?
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21. March 2013 @ 14:50 |
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what is not worth it? what games are you going to play on it?
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