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23. November 2010 @ 22:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ok... so i guess its settled... lets build us a gaming comp... lol... but first... whats cloud gaming?...

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23. November 2010 @ 22:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Cloud gaming is playing a PC game remotely on a session-rented computer.
i.e. you don't actually run the game client on your own PC, you run the game on a PC located in a datacentre somewhere, and are merely seeing the video it generates, and passing input to it remotely. It requires a considerable speed internet connection in order to not be very latent when playing, but it is a somewhat viable alternative to playing games on your own PC, if it is completely unable to play the game itself. This of course assumes that the game you want to play is available on the cloud computer.



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23. November 2010 @ 23:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
whats the minimum internet speed to play games?... & how can i know my the speed?...

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23. November 2010 @ 23:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
There isn't really a minimum speed (well there is but it's tiny), you just need to be using a broadband connection, and not dialup or satellite. Latency is the key here, not bandwidth.
If you're in the US, open a run box (Windows+R) and type cmd
hit enter.
Then type
ping google.com -t
and hit enter, and see what the response times are like.
If they're less than 50ms you're fine for online games. If they're between 50ms and 100ms you may have some lag issues, but it shouldn't be too bad. Over 100ms is problematic.
If you're not in the US the result of this test won't be accurate. If you're in the UK like me, repeat the same but with
ping bbc.co.uk -t



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23. November 2010 @ 23:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ok im back... sorry about that... the result says
reply from 74.125.65.99: bytes=32 time=57ms ttl=57... & it went from that all the way up to 433ms... & it just kept going so i close it with the red x...

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23. November 2010 @ 23:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
yeah the -t command sets it to run perpetually, otherwise it stops after 4 results which isn't very conclusive. How often did figures like 433ms appear?

57ms as a baseline is OK, but if it spikes to 433 often, then you will experience intermittant lag in games, and this will apply to a console or PC.



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24. November 2010 @ 00:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ok... i let it ran for about 100 times... & this time it only went to 97...

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26. November 2010 @ 14:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Sorry for the late response, if those numbers are only occurring once or twice and usually it's 57ms, you should be fine. If they happen a lot, you will experience some lag.



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30. November 2010 @ 04:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
no problem... thx for your help & patience...

i started ordering all the components but i found out that the memory is out of stock... (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145260&Tpk=CMX4GX3M2A1600C9)... & i found out this one... (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233132&Tpk=CMX4GX3M1A1333C9)... i notice the speed is 1333 versus 1600... you think its a better option?... thinking to buy a second one latter... i didnt find a 1600 4gb one...

also the video card (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150505&Tpk=XFX%20HD-685X-ZNFC%20Radeon) is out of stock... i found this one... (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150512&Tpk=XFX%20HD-685X-ZNBC%20Radeon)... what do you think?...

i already ordered the processor, the motherboard, the case, & the power supply...

thx...

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30. November 2010 @ 07:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The memory is still in stock when I view it.
As for the graphics card, I'm always a bit wary of pre-overclocked graphics cards to be honest, as they are much less reliable than standard ones. I would probably say switch to this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127531



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30. November 2010 @ 18:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i guess i didnt asked u the right way... is it better to go with 1 4gb memory stick & add a second one latter?... or just go with 2 2gb & be done with it... cause this way it will be much harder for me just to kind of trow them away when i need to upgrade memory... & if i go with the 1 4gb i can just ad the second one latter without wasting anything... do u think thats alright?... also i have heard that some times they wont work if not bought in pairs... that they have to be purchased paired... like they have to be exactly the same or something... not just brand, speed, & capacity... is this true?... i found the video card that u recommended me first @ tigerdirect...thx...

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30. November 2010 @ 18:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Not really, as you will compromise performance initially by not using dual channel memory. Either go with 2x2GB and buy two more sticks later for 4x2GB, or just go with 2x4GB to start with, it isn't that expensive any more.

Memory does ideally have to be identical, but usually you can still buy the type of Corsair RAM you used before, a long while after. Assuming you use Corsair RAM of course.

By all means use TigerDirect instead of Newegg, but although I don't live in the US and thus have no personal experience, people that I know often report back that it isn't as cheap and the customer service isn't anywhere near as good, so take that into consideration.



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30. November 2010 @ 19:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
is it a lot of difference between 1333 & 1600?...

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30. November 2010 @ 19:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
There's not a large difference, but it's there. However, for AMD systems you're better off trying to reduce latency. If you can find some 4GB sticks that have a CAS latency less than 9 from Corsair for a reasonable price go with them. I don't know if such memory exists though, 4GB sticks are a very recent addition to recommended builds.



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