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Just built a PC not showing anything on any screen
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17. December 2010 @ 13:26 |
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Ive recently built a new PC *mostly with used parts* such as the ram,motherboard,gfx card,HDD,DVD drive only thing that's new in the PC itself is the PSU anyways
so after getting stuff screwed in and finally getting it to turn on i get nothing on my screen, the screen isn't dead (far as i can tell)its on standby mode (orange light but black screen) plus a picture comes up when its not connected to the PC saying no signal also its an LCD screen, i know the Mobo works as i saw a video of it (won it off ebay) Ive tried two different AGP GFX cards 2 different brands of ram even taking them both out and i don't get any beeps which im pretty sure its meant to? its got an on board VGA port so i also tried that when it didn't pick up anything off the graphics card all the fans and lights work/are on
Ive replaced the CMOS Battery with a brand new one Ive tried resetting the BIOS also (maybe i haven't set it up right) but the only way i can turn it off is by the PSU if i hold down the power button it doesn't turn off and there is so reset button so therefor there's no rest sw connected on the motherboard (as it doesn't exist) heres some of the specs
Antec EarthWatts 430W PSU
Pentium 4 2.4GHz Socket 478
MSI MS-6533 Motherboard
512MB ram
ATI Radeon 850X AGP gfx card
Ive googled and found out about the resetting the bios thing as i also saw it in the manual i think im running out of options im very sure its just something i haven't plugged in ive made sure everything's plugged in over and over
only thing i can think of is im not using the ram that came with the motherboard (at the moment) plus it came with another stick of 256MB which i haven't used the 2 together in the video it has both being used and working on an LCD screen ive the video i notice the only thing he has plugged in is the ram,processor and the LCD screen plugged into the mobo VGA port ive also tried another LCD screen that i with my main PC so i know it works...
Any ideas? please reply as im thinking theres nothing else i can do but hoping there is
thanks in advance
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ddp
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17. December 2010 @ 13:39 |
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disconnect all data & power cables to drives. reseat the ram. remove the agp card so can use onboard video. try another psu just for testing. try the motherboard out of the case as maybe there is a grounding problem. make certain cmos jumper is in correct position of normal not clear cmos.
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17. December 2010 @ 15:04 |
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i know the Mobo works as i saw a video of it (won it off ebay)
I think you probably already know what I'm going to say about that!
You will only get beeps if there is a beep speaker connected to the motherboard [not regular speakers through the audio jack!]
If such a speaker is present and connected it usually indicates the CPU isn't powered.
Have you definitely got all the plugs connected and correctly?
Check the following:
20-pin ATX connector
6-pin AUX connector [your PSU does not come with this connector, you are presumably using an adapter for it?]
Molex connector for graphics card
Molex connector(s) for hard disks and CD/DVD drives
All of these connectors are required for your system to boot, as unlike SATA, IDE drives must be powered if they are connected to the board, else they will hang the system.
The 6-pin AUX connector is a relic of just how old that motherboard is, it's not used on power supplies any more as it was replaced with the newer 4-pin ATX+12V connector around 7-8 years ago. [Not directly, the 4-pin carries 12V, the AUX carries 3.3/5V, but this reflects the changing layout of boards]
The 6-pin AUX connector looks like this:
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 17. December 2010 @ 15:06
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17. December 2010 @ 21:52 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
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i know the Mobo works as i saw a video of it (won it off ebay)
I think you probably already know what I'm going to say about that!
You will only get beeps if there is a beep speaker connected to the motherboard [not regular speakers through the audio jack!]
If such a speaker is present and connected it usually indicates the CPU isn't powered.
Have you definitely got all the plugs connected and correctly?
Check the following:
20-pin ATX connector
6-pin AUX connector [your PSU does not come with this connector, you are presumably using an adapter for it?]
Molex connector for graphics card
Molex connector(s) for hard disks and CD/DVD drives
All of these connectors are required for your system to boot, as unlike SATA, IDE drives must be powered if they are connected to the board, else they will hang the system.
The 6-pin AUX connector is a relic of just how old that motherboard is, it's not used on power supplies any more as it was replaced with the newer 4-pin ATX+12V connector around 7-8 years ago. [Not directly, the 4-pin carries 12V, the AUX carries 3.3/5V, but this reflects the changing layout of boards]
The 6-pin AUX connector looks like this:
ah at the moment i dont have the speakers connected up i think it might because whatever i have i dont have plugged in (as in the 6-pin AUX connector) as this is my 1st attempt to build a PC and the only reason im 90% sure it does work as the floppy port *near IDE 1 and 2* has bits of it broken (but im not using a floppy so its not really bothering me) the video shows the same part in the condition it is in but yeah
ill have to try have a look around as you might know it fits in one of them tiny cases...its very painful to have big hands for this thing i wish id know how small the motherboard was haha, yes just looked at the manual and i have nothing plugged in there haha sorry feel a bit stupid now i read the manual wrong and thought it had something to do with the modem (or a part near it is)
ah yep was looking at the wrong diagram um what would be needed to get this connection seeing my PSU doesnt have it just something it does have? (such a moltex to 6 pin AUX?) if such a thing exists? or would it be easier to find a converter/adapter for it? or will a new PSU be needed?
The things i know that i have connected are...
HDD,DVD Drive,Power to the motherboard,Power to the CPU and the Power SW
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17. December 2010 @ 21:54 |
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Originally posted by Kylebacon:
Originally posted by sammorris:
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i know the Mobo works as i saw a video of it (won it off ebay)
I think you probably already know what I'm going to say about that!
You will only get beeps if there is a beep speaker connected to the motherboard [not regular speakers through the audio jack!]
If such a speaker is present and connected it usually indicates the CPU isn't powered.
Have you definitely got all the plugs connected and correctly?
Check the following:
20-pin ATX connector
6-pin AUX connector [your PSU does not come with this connector, you are presumably using an adapter for it?]
Molex connector for graphics card
Molex connector(s) for hard disks and CD/DVD drives
All of these connectors are required for your system to boot, as unlike SATA, IDE drives must be powered if they are connected to the board, else they will hang the system.
The 6-pin AUX connector is a relic of just how old that motherboard is, it's not used on power supplies any more as it was replaced with the newer 4-pin ATX+12V connector around 7-8 years ago. [Not directly, the 4-pin carries 12V, the AUX carries 3.3/5V, but this reflects the changing layout of boards]
The 6-pin AUX connector looks like this:
ah at the moment i dont have the speakers connected up i think it might because whatever i have i dont have plugged in (as in the 6-pin AUX connector) as this is my 1st attempt to build a PC and the only reason im 90% sure it does work as the floppy port *near IDE 1 and 2* has bits of it broken (but im not using a floppy so its not really bothering me) the video shows the same part in the condition it is in but yeah
ill have to try have a look around as you might know it fits in one of them tiny cases...its very painful to have big hands for this thing i wish id know how small the motherboard was haha, yes just looked at the manual and i have nothing plugged in there haha sorry feel a bit stupid now i read the manual wrong and thought it had something to do with the modem (or a part near it is)
ah yep was looking at the wrong diagram um what would be needed to get this connection seeing my PSU doesnt have it just something it does have? (such a moltex to 6 pin AUX?) if such a thing exists? or would it be easier to find a converter/adapter for it? or will a new PSU be needed?
The things i know that i have connected are...
HDD,DVD Drive,Power to the motherboard,Power to the CPU and the Power SW
I do have one but im not sure if its a good one or enough power some brand called Seasonic 250Ws and it has the connection your talking about
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ddp
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17. December 2010 @ 22:44 |
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Kylebacon, next time edit your previous post instead of double posting as per forum rules. how many connectors from psu to motherboard are plugged in, 1, 2 or 3?
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17. December 2010 @ 23:08 |
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Originally posted by ddp:
Kylebacon, next time edit your previous post instead of double posting as per forum rules. how many connectors from psu to motherboard are plugged in, 1, 2 or 3?
oops sorry my bad from the PSU to mobo 2 the big long one and then the 4 squared one near the processor/fan
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Jeffrey_P
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17. December 2010 @ 23:32 |
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Rule of thumb is.
You assemble the PS, MB, CPU, and on board video out of the case on top of a non-conductive bag. Wear a grounding strap while touching/installing static sensitive components.
First make sure the basics work before adding more components.
It could be your RAM, Video card or power supply and or connectors or a shorted MB. Decent MB have good short protection circuitry.
Go one step at a time.
Good luck
J
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ddp
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17. December 2010 @ 23:36 |
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reseat those 2 to make certain are seated properly. did you check the cmos jumper was in correct position? did you remove the data & power cables to the drives? are you using onboard video not agp videocard? have you tried another psu? have you tried motherboard out of case? any domed or leaking capacitors on motherboard?
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17. December 2010 @ 23:50 |
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Originally posted by Jeffrey_P:
Rule of thumb is.
You assemble the PS, MB, CPU, and on board video out of the case on top of a non-conductive bag. Wear a grounding strap while touching/installing static sensitive components.
First make sure the basics work before adding more components.
It could be your RAM, Video card or power supply and or connectors or a shorted MB. Decent MB have good short protection circuitry.
Go one step at a time.
Good luck
J
ive tryied different ram and video card i may have to try another PSU
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17. December 2010 @ 23:57 |
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Originally posted by ddp:
reseat those 2 to make certain are seated properly. did you check the cmos jumper was in correct position? did you remove the data & power cables to the drives? are you using onboard video not agp videocard? have you tried another psu? have you tried motherboard out of case? any domed or leaking capacitors on motherboard?
the way things are going i will end up doing it all over again trying it out of the case and perhaps another PSU ive tried both onboard and AGP VGA ports there was no jumper on the cmos bit (as in you get to choose to keep the data or clear it?) so ive put one on (may of taken it out now) on the keep data pins its got a new CMOS battery in there which has never been used till trying to get this to work when i turn it on it makes sounds not beeps but like its loading sort of sound (think its the DVD drive)and no theres no leakage or anything of that kind
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ddp
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18. December 2010 @ 00:23 |
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leave the cmos jumper on pins 1 & 2 according to manual page 2-21.
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18. December 2010 @ 00:48 |
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Originally posted by ddp:
leave the cmos jumper on pins 1 & 2 according to manual page 2-21.
yep done. just tried another PSU and outside of the case even tryied different VGA Cable still the same thing and i dont think i have a slot for that 6pin ATX adapter thing
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ddp
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18. December 2010 @ 00:55 |
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don't worry about the 6pin connector. i think you now have a DOA(DeadOnArrival) so return it for replacement or refund.
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18. December 2010 @ 00:57 |
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Originally posted by ddp:
don't worry about the 6pin connector. i think you now have a DOA(DeadOnArrival) so return it for replacement or refund.
ah damn that sucks ah well thanks for the help could you recommend a motherboard model something similar? i was just wanting to run windows 98 on it and wanted a P4 with at least 2.0GHz
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18. December 2010 @ 01:20 |
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Why the battery replacement?
It's only to store volitale BIOS info when powering down.
One more question.. Did you remove the AGP video card before trying the on board video?
If not, remove it.
Jeff
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18. December 2010 @ 01:39 |
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Originally posted by Jeffrey_P:
Why the battery replacement?
It's only to store volitale BIOS info when powering down.
One more question.. Did you remove the AGP video card before trying the on board video?
If not, remove it.
Jeff
I was just trying everything possible in hopes something would get it running and yes i did try with no card installed in sigh wish it didnt die i didnt do it on carpet nor did i give anything a shock but there is one thing that bugs me a little on the video..he doesnt have anything connected to the motherboard (as in the HDD LED Power SW etc) yet its working so unless how they had it setup was just out of sight it seemed a little odd (they had the other plugs plugged in though)
if anyone's interested in the video
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180588361951&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
scroll down a bit and click video im not able to pause it either to get a better look id send it back but meh id only get $12 the postage was $14.90 which seems a bit over priced but ah well was happy when the motherboard got here also took a week to get here
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ddp
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18. December 2010 @ 19:02 |
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can use a slot screw driver in place of power button for test purposes. that is ddr ram not ddr2 ram.
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18. December 2010 @ 20:36 |
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Originally posted by ddp:
can use a slot screw driver in place of power button for test purposes. that is ddr ram not ddr2 ram.
ah i see and yes it came with 2 sticks of ram as you would/might of read 512MB other 256MB
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