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Looking for optimal tweak settings for new memory
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JHawx
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17. January 2011 @ 13:58 |
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I am looking for somebody who could say something about the optimal settings for my new motherboard and processor. What should i opt in in my case for tweaking my memory and and processor settings in order to get some kick from the computer.
What bios settings should i be using? My main HDD is sata 3 compatible.
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Ok, i got this setup:
Motherboard: ASRock 890GX Extreme3
Bios ver.: AMI P2.40 06/18/2010
Memory modules: PC3 10660 DDR3 1333 MHz CL7 (3*2GB)
Processor Cooler: CoolIT ECO
rest info you might need:
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SiSoftware Sandra
Computer
Workgroup : MA****
Host Name : Dem****_****x
User : ***
Processor
Model : AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 965 Processor (black edition)
Speed : 3.65GHz
Cores per Processor : 4 Unit(s)
Threads per Core : 1 Unit(s)
Type : Quad-Core
Integrated Data Cache : 4x 64kB, Synchronous, Write-Back, 2-way, Exclusive, 64 byte line size
L2 On-board Cache : 4x 512kB, ECC, Synchronous, Write-Back, 16-way, Exclusive, 64 byte line size
L3 On-board Cache : 6MB, ECC, Synchronous, Write-Back, 48-way, 64 byte line size, 4 threads sharing
Computer
Mainboard : ASRock 890GX Extreme3
BIOS : AMI P2.40 06/18/2010
Bus(es) : X-Bus PCI PCIe USB FireWire/1394
Multi-Processor (MP) Support : No
Multi-Processor Advanced PIC (APIC) : No
Total Memory : 5.75GB DIMM DDR3
Chipset
Model : ASRock RS780 Host Bridge Alternate
Front Side Bus Speed : 2x 2.15GHz (4.3GHz)
Total Memory : 128MB
Shared Memory : 384MB
Channels : 2
Memory Bus Speed : 2x 717MHz (1.43GHz)
Chipset
Model : AMD F10h Athlon 64/Opteron/Sempron HT Hub
Front Side Bus Speed : 2x 2.15GHz (4.3GHz)
Total Memory : 6GB DIMM DDR3
Channels : 2
Memory Bus Speed : 2x 573MHz (1.15GHz)
Memory Module(s)
Memory Module : SanMax Tri-Dark-160000000 2GB DIMM PC4200U
Memory Module : SanMax Tri-Dark-160000000 2GB DIMM PC4200U
Memory Module : SanMax Tri-Dark-160000000 2GB DIMM PC4200U
Video System
Video Adapter : ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series (800 SM5.0 875MHz, 1GB DDR5 4x1.23GHz, PCIe 2.00 x16)
Video Adapter : ATI Radeon HD 4290 (40 SM4.1 850MHz, 384MB 2x667MHz, Integrated Graphics)
Graphics Processor
STREAM Processor : ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series (800SP 10C 875MHz, 1GB 4x1.23GHz)
STREAM Processor : ATI Radeon HD 4290 (40SP 2C 850MHz, 384MB 2x667MHz, Integrated Graphics)
Compute Shader Processor : ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series (800SP 875MHz, 1012.7MB 4x1.23GHz)
Compute Shader Processor : ATI Radeon HD 4290 (40SP 850MHz, 371.2MB 2x667MHz, Integrated Graphics)
Operating System
Windows System : Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 6.01.7600
Platform Compliance : x64
Windows Experience Index
Current System : 7.2
Performance Tips
Warning 100 : Large memory sizes should be made of Registered/Buffered memory.
Tip 2546 : Large memory modules should be ECC/Parity.
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Any comments? The memory seems little sluggish at moment. On cold run the processor runs around 47-52 celsius.
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mrslicker
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18. January 2011 @ 04:57 |
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well from what i hear, 1333/1600MHz is abt the highest recommended for amd x4 cpus. Some kind of memory controller limit.) what ive done in the past(on intel stuff) i tweak the fsb first, then cpu mult, then go back to fsb as needed, then do memory. with that speed memory try upping your cpu multiplier and keeping you're fsb lower. i cant say for sure what, if any, fsb:dram ratio would be good for am3 4 core with ddr3 though, do some research on that. also amd cpus these days seem to like low latency since higher ram clocks arent easily achievable. dual channel is what runs on 890gx not triple channel, that could be a bottleneck, but maybe someone else here will know for sure. check cpu-z for more detailed frequency information, if you dont already know abt it. keep an eye on your voltages for all, try to keep within parameters or close, if possible.
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JHawx
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18. January 2011 @ 08:23 |
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Originally posted by mrslicker:
well from what i hear, 1333/1600MHz is abt the highest recommended for amd x4 cpus. Some kind of memory controller limit.)
In black edition, there are no limits, its overclockers edition. It also supports UCD feature (unlocking cores)
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mrslicker
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18. January 2011 @ 12:11 |
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well yeah, but no. the limit im talking about is in the integrated(?) memory controller on the chip. thats why it isnt talked about to have 2000+ MHz ram on anything for amd other than hexacore. check this quote from amd's site:
Integrated DRAM Controller with AMD Memory Optimizer Technology
* A high-bandwidth, low-latency integrated memory controller
* Support for unregistered DIMMs up to PC2 8500(DDR2-1066MHz) and PC3 10600 (DDR3-1333MHz) ? AM3
* Up to 17.1GB/s memory bandwidth for DDR2 and up to 21GB/s memory bandwidth for DDR3
. what the enthusiast lines allow you to do differently than regular edition (besides being faster to begin with) is work with multipliers in larger steps not just 3 or 5 down, etc. and the fsb (like most, not all chips - some intel cpus are starting to lock people out of this i think) is still able to be worked with. i actually have the same chip, one day ill be tweaking it too.
i got a question - what is giving you idea that ram may be slow? is it possible it takes a while to fetch info from the hdd? just wanting some clarification, JHawx. thanks
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JHawx
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18. January 2011 @ 17:53 |
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Originally posted by mrslicker:
well yeah, but no. the limit im talking about is in the integrated(?) memory controller on the chip. thats why it isnt talked about to have 2000+ MHz ram on anything for amd other than hexacore. check this quote from amd's site:
Integrated DRAM Controller with AMD Memory Optimizer Technology
* A high-bandwidth, low-latency integrated memory controller
* Support for unregistered DIMMs up to PC2 8500(DDR2-1066MHz) and PC3 10600 (DDR3-1333MHz) ? AM3
* Up to 17.1GB/s memory bandwidth for DDR2 and up to 21GB/s memory bandwidth for DDR3
. what the enthusiast lines allow you to do differently than regular edition (besides being faster to begin with) is work with multipliers in larger steps not just 3 or 5 down, etc. and the fsb (like most, not all chips - some intel cpus are starting to lock people out of this i think) is still able to be worked with. i actually have the same chip, one day ill be tweaking it too.
i got a question - what is giving you idea that ram may be slow? is it possible it takes a while to fetch info from the hdd? just wanting some clarification, JHawx. thanks
Well, its mostly like this: After a 4-5 hours, my computer starts to hung up, for a 30 seconds or so, theres "blip,click" sound and computer unfreezes. Iwe done tests if its the heat, but it isnt. When this happens, the temperature is around 50, just bout regular for my computer. Before i added the closed water cooler, it ran up to 85.
Now, it cant be reading problem, it works with sata3, and all tests look fine. Its when i am putting more and more file transfer when i start to see some hanging ups, which i assume is related to memory handles. This because computer cages are showing memory running bit low, but processors only at 45%
The memory is in a sets of 3, so i am wondering if changing memory tweaking handle from unganged to ganged would make any diffirence. And because the memories are tweakers memory, i am thinking if they should be set on 7-7-7-26 instead of the set 6-6-6-21. Or should i go up with them like 8-8-8-26.
Now i have done previously some processor overcloking with stepping, but never on memory modules, thatswhy i am little newbie on the matter. The bios looks actually great on the asrock, never seen more streamlined and to the point BIOS. It litterally allows you to unlock everything you might imagine you will need to clock the sucker up.
Thus its also little confusing the same time.
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mrslicker
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19. January 2011 @ 13:27 |
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ok. i cant really comment on the hangups, except to recommend that you check the error logs (to access it, right-click 'computer' and select manage. you will see event viewer on left pane) from what i've read, unganged mode is what is usually recommended if your overclocking. lower latency is better, so stick with 6-6-6-21 unless you increase the MHz and their not as stable. i understand that it can be confusing, some of those settings are probably for overclocking *gurus* so check the manual for the settings definition/needs, and slowly increase your knowledge. peace.
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ddp
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19. January 2011 @ 17:17 |
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when system freezes, are you using onboard video or videocard?
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JHawx
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20. January 2011 @ 19:05 |
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Originally posted by ddp:
when system freezes, are you using onboard video or videocard?
Yes, all the time as i got dual screen.
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ddp
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20. January 2011 @ 21:43 |
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dual screen using the onboard video?
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JHawx
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21. January 2011 @ 08:24 |
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Originally posted by ddp:
dual screen using the onboard video?
No, dual screen using onboard integrated 3d card + onboard pci-express 3d card.
Using dual DVI from separate output, xfired.
Soon planning on going on 3 screens, untill the 12 year old tube gives out, then back to dual screens, other being dvi + hdmi
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JHawx
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25. January 2011 @ 08:04 |
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Ye i was right when i stated that my memory seemed sluggish, those modules are 7-7-7-21 for the tCL, tRCD, tRP, and tRAS parameters. And my onboard motherboard autodetected those as 8-8-8-24´s
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