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6. November 2009 @ 22:59 |
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You can get further with XP, then use it for a week and tell me it didn't randomly crash or BSOD at least once.
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6. November 2009 @ 23:37 |
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Personaly, I like to test overclocks with Vista64 SP1 & no updates other than drivers. I copy 100,000 small files while doing a CPU & GPU full load test, and while searching the file contents of the entire C: drive. If this does not crash a system, then the system is rock solid.
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6. November 2009 @ 23:39 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
You can get further with XP, then use it for a week and tell me it didn't randomly crash or BSOD at least once.
Of course, but believe me after Vista, Microsoft have to do a lot to convince me.
I am currently on 7 as I'll be setting up my RAID tomorrow and I am already infested with adobe flash player problems and explorer. After it crashes I can't start IE unless restart!
Fastest trouble ever!
Can U believe this?
By the way, it's 7 Ultimate!
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6. November 2009 @ 23:40 |
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Originally posted by KillerBug:
Personaly, I like to test overclocks with Vista64 SP1 & no updates other than drivers. I copy 100,000 small files while doing a CPU & GPU full load test, and while searching the file contents of the entire C: drive. If this does not crash a system, then the system is rock solid.
Interesting...
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7. November 2009 @ 00:29 |
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That's a pretty solid test for all except graphics overclocks. I test those thoroughly both with synthetic (3dmark, OCCT) and real (games like UT3, Crysis etc) applications.
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7. November 2009 @ 17:55 |
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Originally posted by floss313:
Lastly, are you actually comparing stability between an OS that's 8 years old against one that just came out a month ago?
No experience talking there ,I'm afraid.
Im not going to say 7 is with out a doubt as solid as XP, sure theres probably some bugs to work out, but I have yet to hear of any major reoccurring bugs. Even then lets not forget, that beloved XP you swear by, wasnt always the icon it is today.
Originally posted by floss313:
Of course, but believe me after Vista, Microsoft have to do a lot to convince me.
I am currently on 7 as I'll be setting up my RAID tomorrow and I am already infested with adobe flash player problems and explorer. After it crashes I can't start IE unless restart!
Fastest trouble ever!
Can U believe this?
By the way, it's 7 Ultimate!
7 Ultimate here and I havent had such problems. Your the first I have heard of it.
As for Vista, people need to quit living in the past. Yes there were a number of issues with Vista, and driver support can still be finicky on OEM products to this day.
None the less, unless i missed it, i didnt catch what your holding on to XP for? Higher OCs? Whats the point if your not utilizing it to the fullest? In the case of gaming if your not running 7 you cant utilize DX11, and if your a hardcore gamer those differences are surely important. So what good does a higher oc do if you have to utilize different OSes do do whatever it is your needing to do. If this were linux and windows, of course I could understand but i just dont see a point in a dual boot Windows system anymore.
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7. November 2009 @ 19:35 |
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If people innately hate something they can always find problems with it because they go looking for something. There's no benefit to XP for overclocking, it's just a placebo.
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8. November 2009 @ 21:03 |
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7 Ultimate here and I havent had such problems. Your the first I have heard of it.
As for Vista, people need to quit living in the past. Yes there were a number of issues with Vista, and driver support can still be finicky on OEM products to this day.
None the less, unless i missed it, i didnt catch what your holding on to XP for? Higher OCs? Whats the point if your not utilizing it to the fullest? In the case of gaming if your not running 7 you cant utilize DX11, and if your a hardcore gamer those differences are surely important. So what good does a higher oc do if you have to utilize different OSes do do whatever it is your needing to do. If this were linux and windows, of course I could understand but i just dont see a point in a dual boot Windows system anymore.
By the way, this is not a DUAL BOOT.
Dual Boot is when you have 2 OS's on the same HDD and this is not the case.
I am not a hardcore gamer at all, my brother likes gaming instead.
I prefer to reach high clocks on my components whilst reaching stability on my system. That is what gives me a buzz.
I am an Anime fanatic and enjoy palying games also but I wouldn't say hardcore because, NO BLOODY TIME!
Too much work.
I have my own personal vendetta with Vista so let's just leave it at that.
Finally if you haven't been paying attention to what has been said I also run 7 on my rig so I don't really get this XP paranoia.
Old is gold and that's that!
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8. November 2009 @ 22:52 |
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Originally posted by floss313:
By the way, this is not a DUAL BOOT.
Dual Boot is when you have 2 OS's on the same HDD and this is not the case.
I am not a hardcore gamer at all, my brother likes gaming instead.
I prefer to reach high clocks on my components whilst reaching stability on my system. That is what gives me a buzz.
I am an Anime fanatic and enjoy palying games also but I wouldn't say hardcore because, NO BLOODY TIME!
Too much work.
I have my own personal vendetta with Vista so let's just leave it at that.
Finally if you haven't been paying attention to what has been said I also run 7 on my rig so I don't really get this XP paranoia.
Old is gold and that's that!
Lets not get picky because your booting 2 oses off 2 drives, its booting two oses, call it what you like, the point remains the same.
As for gaming and benchmarks, it makes no difference. If you can reach the same oc and stability on XP or 7, your not saying why your choosing XP.
Yes lets hold a vendetta over an OS because of its initial state of despair. Fact is, its still not the greatest OS but its a very good one none the less, but there not much reason to stick with Vista when 7 is out.
There is no XP paranoia. Your sorely mistaken. I am not running XP in to the ground at all. Nor have I even made any negative comments towards XP. It has its place in the market but I just cant find a reason to hold on to it anymore.
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9. November 2009 @ 00:55 |
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With the possible exceptions of the operating systems from the PS3 and Xbox360, Windows 7 is the best gaming operating system yet. It supports all the new titles, and with proper hardware, it can dominiate the PS3 and the Xbox360. Linux may be faster and more reliable, but most games won't play. The same is true for Snow Leapord. XP is outdated, and is realy only for outdated hardware & mini-pcs like the Asus EEEpc.
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9. November 2009 @ 00:59 |
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Originally posted by KillerBug:
With the possible exceptions of the operating systems from the PS3 and Xbox360, Windows 7 is the best gaming operating system yet. It supports all the new titles, and with proper hardware, it can dominiate the PS3 and the Xbox360. Linux may be faster and more reliable, but most games won't play. The same is true for Snow Leapord. XP is outdated, and is realy only for outdated hardware & mini-pcs like the Asus EEEpc.
Got one of those too!
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9. November 2009 @ 03:45 |
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Originally posted by floss313:
Originally posted by KillerBug:
With the possible exceptions of the operating systems from the PS3 and Xbox360, Windows 7 is the best gaming operating system yet. It supports all the new titles, and with proper hardware, it can dominiate the PS3 and the Xbox360. Linux may be faster and more reliable, but most games won't play. The same is true for Snow Leapord. XP is outdated, and is realy only for outdated hardware & mini-pcs like the Asus EEEpc.
Got one of those too!
Have you tried win7 x86 on it? This is the only use for winx7 x86 that I have thought of.
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9. November 2009 @ 08:18 |
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Originally posted by KillerBug:
Originally posted by floss313:
Originally posted by KillerBug:
With the possible exceptions of the operating systems from the PS3 and Xbox360, Windows 7 is the best gaming operating system yet. It supports all the new titles, and with proper hardware, it can dominiate the PS3 and the Xbox360. Linux may be faster and more reliable, but most games won't play. The same is true for Snow Leapord. XP is outdated, and is realy only for outdated hardware & mini-pcs like the Asus EEEpc.
Got one of those too!
Have you tried win7 x86 on it? This is the only use for winx7 x86 that I have thought of.
That is a no no.
I have the Asus Eee PC 1000 that came with 2 SSD's (8GB and 32GB).
I have XP on the 8GB and the rest of the programs go on the 32GB.
When I tried XP on the 32GB, it was shockingly slower than the smaller drive so I had to re-install it once more.
7 of course will not fit on my 8GB so, performance wise, XP should be better given the HDD sizes.
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11. November 2009 @ 02:35 |
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Replying to your last post on the closed thread:
There are SATA & SAS RAID cards that work from a PCI slot. They are designed for PCI-X slots, but most of them will work in a normal PCI slot. I have an old Adaptec 2610SA controler...it is 64-bit, 66MHZ PCI-X, but it works fine with 32-bit 33mhz PCI (it is just SATA150, and only 6 ports, so PCI does not slow it down much). Sadly, the cheap thermal tape that adaptec used melted and let the heatsink drop off, causing it to overheat...ever since it has run super-slow. I need to update my sig to remove that...
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11. November 2009 @ 03:07 |
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Originally posted by KillerBug:
Replying to your last post on the closed thread:
There are SATA & SAS RAID cards that work from a PCI slot. They are designed for PCI-X slots, but most of them will work in a normal PCI slot. I have an old Adaptec 2610SA controler...it is 64-bit, 66MHZ PCI-X, but it works fine with 32-bit 33mhz PCI (it is just SATA150, and only 6 ports, so PCI does not slow it down much). Sadly, the cheap thermal tape that adaptec used melted and let the heatsink drop off, causing it to overheat...ever since it has run super-slow. I need to update my sig to remove that...
Thanks KillerBug.
It is good to know we have some room for improvisation.
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12. November 2009 @ 23:59 |
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Yeah, just make sure that you actualy have the room for it...usualy only one or two, but sometimes none of the PCI slots can be used with PCI-X cards, as there are often mainboard components blocking the extra pins behind the PCI pins.
Come to think of it, there are tons of these old cards available used...many of them are 6 channel cards from old servers, so you could have all 5 of your drives in a single array if you wanted to.
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13. November 2009 @ 00:54 |
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Had some memory trouble with 7 and the PC wouldn't start.
After I got that sorted, the RAID Manager said Initializing which I don't even know what it is, but it took about 10 hours to do so while I was on the PC also.
System is currently underclocked to 2 Ghz since I haven't gone into the BIOS yet.
How fast would it have been with a RAID Controller?
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17. November 2009 @ 04:26 |
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Originally posted by floss313:
Had some memory trouble with 7 and the PC wouldn't start.
After I got that sorted, the RAID Manager said Initializing which I don't even know what it is, but it took about 10 hours to do so while I was on the PC also.
System is currently underclocked to 2 Ghz since I haven't gone into the BIOS yet.
How fast would it have been with a RAID Controller?
Not much faster...the speed gains come once it is initialized. 10 hours is probably faster than some hardware controllers would have done the job...my 3ware took about 2 days to initialize & verify my 3x 1.5TB RAID5 array...and it took another 2 days to add a fourth drive through migration.
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17. November 2009 @ 04:40 |
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Originally posted by KillerBug:
Originally posted by floss313:
Had some memory trouble with 7 and the PC wouldn't start.
After I got that sorted, the RAID Manager said Initializing which I don't even know what it is, but it took about 10 hours to do so while I was on the PC also.
System is currently underclocked to 2 Ghz since I haven't gone into the BIOS yet.
How fast would it have been with a RAID Controller?
Not much faster...the speed gains come once it is initialized. 10 hours is probably faster than some hardware controllers would have done the job...my 3ware took about 2 days to initialize & verify my 3x 1.5TB RAID5 array...and it took another 2 days to add a fourth drive through migration.
That's great to know.
What is initialize?
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17. November 2009 @ 05:42 |
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Originally posted by floss313:
What is initialize?
It is kind of like a full format, except at a lower level. If you know what a "low level format" is, this is basicly the same thing for a RAID array. It makes sure that everything is functional before you start trusting the array(s) with data. My 3ware also automaticaly verified once it was initialized; this is kind of like scandisk, but at a lower level than any file system goes to.
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17. November 2009 @ 06:40 |
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Originally posted by KillerBug:
Originally posted by floss313:
What is initialize?
It is kind of like a full format, except at a lower level. If you know what a "low level format" is, this is basicly the same thing for a RAID array. It makes sure that everything is functional before you start trusting the array(s) with data. My 3ware also automaticaly verified once it was initialized; this is kind of like scandisk, but at a lower level than any file system goes to.
Cheers bud.
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