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xEzekialx
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7. December 2009 @ 20:35 |
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Okay i have about $1700 Spend on a desktop with monitor and these part are what I choose to use. But I don't know if this is a good setup or what, so I wanna hear from others and what they think.
CPU - I5 750
Mother Board - ASUS MAXIMUS III FORMULA
Case - NZXT Tempest
Power Supply - Cooler Master Silent Pro 850w
HDD - Seagate 500GB 7200RPM
Optical -LG 22x DVD Writer
Monitor - Samsung 2343BWX
Memory - CRUCIAL Ballistix PC3-12800 4GB
Video Card - Ati Sapphire 5850
Updated Specs
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7. December 2009 @ 21:21 |
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CPU: Fine for CPU-intensive stuff, but if you're a gamer, I'd suggest an i5 over an i7 - much better value, and better overclockers.
Motherboard: Avoid Asus boards, prone to reliability issues. Use either Gigabyte, MSI or Biostar equivalents of the board you need (for example, TPower P55/X58 from Biostar, P55-
UD4/EX58-UD4P from Gigabyte, and the P55GD65 from MSI).
Case: A minimum budget basic PC case for a $1700 gaming build? I don't think so. Serious cooling problems will result. Spend a little extra and get an NZXT Tempest.
HDD: Don't buy Seagates at the moment, the 7200.12 series is a liability. Get a WD5001AALS instead.
ODD: Fine
Monitor: Fine
RAM: Get 1600mhz RAM with a high-budget system, there's no reason not to.
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xEzekialx
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7. December 2009 @ 21:41 |
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What about a video card?
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7. December 2009 @ 21:45 |
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If it fits your budget, maybe something like an HD5850. Depends how much you want to play games though.
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xEzekialx
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7. December 2009 @ 22:08 |
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Im play game A decent amount of time. But i think i may only have like 300-400 left to buy a video card.
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7. December 2009 @ 22:21 |
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The HD5850 is $310 at newegg.
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8. December 2009 @ 03:21 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
HDD: Don't buy Seagates at the moment, the 7200.12 series is a liability. Get a WD5001AALS instead.
I thought we had a truce? I don't bash WD for being slower, more expensive, anti-raid, and unreliable (or rather, always DOA) to me...and you don't bash Seagate based on their 7200RPM being louder & hotter than a 5400RPM version, and their unreliability to you. Neither of us will win this fight, but we can both loose, so please stop throwing rocks.
xEzekialx - Just for your information, I just bought another one of the seagates that Sam says are so terrible...I have had 3 of them working perfect in RAID5 for over a year, and I had tried to give WD a chance to be the fourth drive in the array (based on Sam's recomendations), but I got three bad drives in a row from WD (I ended up paying more than the price of a 500GB between all the shipping and the restocking fee), so I had to get another Seagate, and it is working perfectly. All of this is based on 1.5TB drives, and I know WD drives of 1TB and under tend to be more reliable than their big drives, but then small seagates are more reliable than big seagates as well. The 7200.12 series has served me well, and I have been using 7200.10, 7200.11, and 7200.12 drives in my storage arrays for a long time, and I have never had one of them fail on me yet. I have found dead seagates (and every other brand) in customer systems...most of them are mounted sideways or verticaly, and they never have any airflow (this goes for all brands, not just Seagate or WD.
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xEzekialx
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8. December 2009 @ 03:22 |
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To be honest i trust Seagate more the WD From experiences so ya im gonna be sticking with them.
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xEzekialx
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8. December 2009 @ 03:36 |
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These are my New specs That i Decided on. I wanna know what everyone thinks?
CPU - I5 750
HDD - SEAGATE 500GB Barracuda 7200.12
Motherboard - Gigabyte GA-P55-UD6
Optical - LG 22x DVD Burner
Keyboard - Razer Lycosa
PowerSupply - Corsair 750w
Video Card - BFG Geforce GTX275 oc
Case - ANTEC Nine Hundred Ultimate Gamer Case
Memory - Patriot Extreme Pefromance Viper Series 6GB PC3-10666 7-7-7-24
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8. December 2009 @ 05:48 |
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8. December 2009 @ 11:41 |
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Killerbug: There's little point making a truce with someone that lies about a product, rather than emphasising problems like I do. Always DOA, come on now. Buy anything but a 7200.12 from Seagate and you'll hear no argument from me (unless you want a quiet system), but the 7200.12s are just a risk not worth taking. Also, you seem to think that the bugs that some of the biggest WD drives are sometimes prone to (not that often, especially in the UK) indications that EVERY WD drive is bad, whereas you'll never hear me go on about anything but the 7200.12s from Seagate. You refute ALL WD drives, and ALL Samsungs, I've not seen any evidence of you liking Hitachis either, unlike someone who wants to steer people away from potentially risky products, you are in fact, just a Seagate fanboy. HDD fanboys, dear god, what has the world come to? In b4 rebuttal, I'm not a WD fanboy, because I still have Samsung and Seagate drives active in my system right now, which I paid for.
Ezekial: Again, apart from the HDD and the RAM the list looks alrightr, but a GTX275? You're paying almost HD5850 money for something barely 2/3 as fast. Drop from the unnecessary P55-UD6 to the UD5 or UD4 and get an HD5850 with what you save, you'll be much better off. The Antec 900 is also way inferior to the NZXT Tempest. The 900 Two is a better buy, but more expensive. I also stand by what I said about 1600mhz memory. Latency really isn't that important for Intel systems.
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xEzekialx
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8. December 2009 @ 12:02 |
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Problem is with buying that case is, i cant find it anywhere.
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8. December 2009 @ 12:02 |
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Well, which country do you live in?
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xEzekialx
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8. December 2009 @ 12:05 |
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Edmonton, Alberta
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8. December 2009 @ 12:11 |
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9. December 2009 @ 00:32 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Killerbug: There's little point making a truce with someone that lies about a product, rather than emphasising problems like I do. Always DOA, come on now. Buy anything but a 7200.12 from Seagate and you'll hear no argument from me (unless you want a quiet system), but the 7200.12s are just a risk not worth taking. Also, you seem to think that the bugs that some of the biggest WD drives are sometimes prone to (not that often, especially in the UK) indications that EVERY WD drive is bad, whereas you'll never hear me go on about anything but the 7200.12s from Seagate. You refute ALL WD drives, and ALL Samsungs, I've not seen any evidence of you liking Hitachis either, unlike someone who wants to steer people away from potentially risky products, you are in fact, just a Seagate fanboy. HDD fanboys, dear god, what has the world come to? In b4 rebuttal, I'm not a WD fanboy, because I still have Samsung and Seagate drives active in my system right now, which I paid for.
I tried to run WD in my system...three times in a row. None of them worked correctly. One did not start at all, the other two randomly dropped out, as if they were in removed using hotswap...even after using the tool that is meant to fix this, and even when tried them with a variety of controllers, most non-RAID. I do like Hitachi, but I like their 2.5" drives more than I like their slower 3.5" drives. Of course, I would love to have a few of their 15K drives! At the moment, my main system has 2 Hitachi drives, and I have one of their 500GB drives in my PS3. I am not a seagate fanboy...it is just that I never have issues with their drives (other than noise and heat, and I can deal with those). The last WD drives I used that lasted long enough to become obsolite were 40GB SATA150 units...based purly on my own experiences, this puts WD ahead of samsung (rarely last a year, assuming not DOA), and behind everyone else.
I know I am noy lieing about the reliability of the Seagates, nor about the unreliability of the WDs. If the same is true for you, I can only assume that it is somehow related to shipping...WD drives must be getting damaged durring shipment to US sellers, and Seagates must get damaged durring shipment to European sellers...or maybe it is all just incredible coincidence.
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9. December 2009 @ 09:35 |
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Shipping damage wouldn't explain a controller failure that suddenly makes the drive think it's zero bytes big...
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xEzekialx
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9. December 2009 @ 11:41 |
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Hey does anyone know witch is better?
Asus Maximus III
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eVGA P55 FTW
I heard good things about the Maximus but never heard about the eVGA one? So what you guys think?
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9. December 2009 @ 12:00 |
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Preferably neither, but if you must, probably the EVGA. I'm no fan of Asus or EVGA for quality (Asus for quality of manufacture, EVGA for quality of design). MSI, Biostar and Gigabyte are generally the three brands I tell people to stick to.
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xEzekialx
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9. December 2009 @ 13:36 |
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TO be honest i can't seem to find a decent from msi or gigabyte.
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9. December 2009 @ 13:46 |
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xEzekialx
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9. December 2009 @ 13:50 |
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Im buying everything from local stores.
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9. December 2009 @ 13:53 |
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Then I'd recommend you don't. If there are limited options available at local stores, you will be compromising the quality of your PC.
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9. December 2009 @ 18:30 |
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I personally use a MSI P55-GD65, but if you dont need a second PCIe 2.0 x16 slot then you can save about $20. The GD65 has tons of customizing options for OCing, and even a nice built in auto OC sytem. You can get better results from a manual OC but for an auto OC it may be one of the best on the market.
Even if your not into OCing, it gives you crossfire/sli compatibility should you consider this in the future.
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10. December 2009 @ 04:09 |
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Buy online...local stores tent to charge a lot more for the same parts, and have terrible selection.
Overall, I think gigabyte makes the best mainboard at the moment.
DFI is close, but they are too concerned with tweeking to worry about the finer details.
Evga seems to have good build quality, and some of their boards are VERY impressive...but the prices are insane for these boards, and they offer very little advantage over a gigabyte board that costs half as much. Also, they seem to try to hide the limitations of their products from the customers; many of the claims they make on their high-end "classified" series are impossible...and they don't even offer online manuals for those looking to find out what they would actualy get by buying one of these boards.
Asus has poor quality, and prices similar to Gigabyte and DFI. Ignoring the quality, the boards still tend to lack the features in a similarly prices Gigabyte/DFI.
MSI is a bit hit-n-miss...some of their boards are as solid as a gigabyte...others are not as good. Overall, qualit is decent, and much better today than it used to be. They are also guilty of some false (or at least intentionaly misleading) advertising, for instance, the P55-GD80 is advertised as having 3 PCIe 2.0 x16 slots...in reality, it has one gen2 x16 slot, one x8 slot, and one x4 slot. At least MSI makes such information available to those who dig; unline evga.
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