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Puree
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10. January 2010 @ 20:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hi all,

Recently, I've been playing more games on my pc, and some games just don't quite play right. I know my system is a bit old, but I feel that with a little upgrading it should do quite alright. A friend of mine, however, did point out that buying a completely new system might save me some money, as I can use some parts from the old one to reinforce it. This is what I have right now:

Motherboard: ASUSTeK Model P5S800-VM
CPU 1 core Intel Pentium 4
2 1024 mb DDR memory
Nvidia GeForce 6600 256mb
(any other relevant parts, please let me know I'll look it up)

My question is: would I be better off getting a complete new system, or would just upgrading my video card do to increase gaming performance (and which would be cheaper in a cost/effect ratio)?

Thanks in advance!

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ddp
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10. January 2010 @ 21:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
specs link
http://www.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=ZcyLktAZjt2bXqgs
how big is your hard drive & what type of optical drives do you have as thinking maybe new mb, ram, cpu & videocard?
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10. January 2010 @ 23:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
yea that mobo only supports agp that is definitely restricting the games potential to be shown,

It would be in my opinion better to just make a new computer

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Puree
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11. January 2010 @ 06:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by ddp:
specs link
http://www.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=ZcyLktAZjt2bXqgs
how big is your hard drive & what type of optical drives do you have as thinking maybe new mb, ram, cpu & videocard?
I have a 80 GB hard drive, and my optical drives are 2 home-brew dvd readers/writers.
I recently bought new ram, going from 1 512 to 2 1024.

What is the difference between agp and other types relating to games?
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11. January 2010 @ 06:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
AGP was the old standard. PCI-Express is the new standard and allows for faster speeds.

Id say if you have the money, its time to upgrade. Even with a higher end agp gpu, Im not confident that it will hold out on the gaming end to much longer. How much could you spend on new parts?

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11. January 2010 @ 07:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
my budget goes up to around 800/900 euro.
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11. January 2010 @ 08:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
In that case you can build a killer gaming rig.

Just a quick run down here:
Core i7 860
MSI,Gigabyte, or Biostar ATX mobo (P55/Socket 1156)
Corsair,G.Skil or Patriot DDR3 Memory
ATI 5800 series video card
Corsair PSU, 550 watts should give you some room to grow.
Sony or LG DVD Burner

The only reason you may want to switch out the cpu and mobo would be if your wanting run crossfire or sli down the road.

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11. January 2010 @ 11:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
That's a stretch for 800 euros. For an entire system you will be limited to the HD5850 and it will still be tight. Go with the i5 750 CPU instead of the i7 860, it's much better value.



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Xplorer4
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11. January 2010 @ 17:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by sammorris:
That's a stretch for 800 euros. For an entire system you will be limited to the HD5850 and it will still be tight. Go with the i5 750 CPU instead of the i7 860, it's much better value.

800 euros is $1280 USD. A core i7 860 isnt a stretch buy any means.

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11. January 2010 @ 18:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Not how it works. Most European countries have high sales tax, and also suffer import costs.



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11. January 2010 @ 20:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I forgot about the VAT fees. :p

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11. January 2010 @ 20:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Mmhmm, HD5970 price in US: $650-$700.
HD5970 price in UK: c. £550 ($885). That's only $750 before VAT is applied.



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12. January 2010 @ 20:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
OUCH! Glad I live in the US. lol.

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13. January 2010 @ 07:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks guys, I'm looking into the prices right now! VAT is indeed 19% extra, but I'm sure I can find a way around import taxes and all that :)
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Xplorer4
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13. January 2010 @ 09:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
No problem, sales tax here is only 7% or 8% here but buying online i usually avoid the sales tax.

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