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15. August 2009 @ 21:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi guys

For a long time I've been wanting to get a computer with the absolute best. Yesterday I got a pay rise and I've managed over 4 or 5 years or something like that to save up to $13,450 AU no kidding. That's a lot of cash. So I was wondering what is the best I could get with $15,000. I would like this computer to also last me at worst 5 years. Now that's a very long time, I know but I not expecting it to run all the best programs after 2 years or so. I am willing to wait if something new is coming out as well.

Please help decide what components to get

Cheers Hasamoder



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15. August 2009 @ 21:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Forgot to say that I am willing to go over $15,000 but it will take me time to save up and I would rather not wait much longer. I'm still a bit of $15,000 and by the way this is Aussie dollar not the same as the us dollar.



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15. August 2009 @ 21:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
No offense, but your post is worded in such a way that it could be construed as showing off. To spec you a PC we really need to know what you want to do with it. In all honesty, there's not very often any point spending that much as $6000-$7000 AU should get you about the best you can buy. You also may wish to consider waiting a month or so as new technology is in the pipeline.



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Really that seams pretty reasonable for a good computer I thought It would be much much more. I haven't had much time for research(Busy week). Any way I am a huge gamer and I do a lot of video encoding. As well as a lot of downloading (big HDD or SSD). I'm looking for the absolute best not to show off but because I'm a computer enthusiast that's loved computers since the days of 1's and 0's. Also I can't stand having my main PC as a celeron(That's right the best PC I have at home is a celeron at work I have a good dual-core though).



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16. August 2009 @ 01:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Forgot to add what's the new technology.



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16. August 2009 @ 06:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
New Core i7 and i5 CPUs for mainstream (but you'll probably want the top end extreme edition anyway, though the price of it should drop when these arrive) and the DirectX11 graphics generation.



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16. August 2009 @ 07:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
OK thanks I'll look in to it! Think I will go with core i7 (core i5 less powerful I believe). See ya



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Huh an i5? never heard of it. If i7 is probably more powerful as I think as it seems like a higher model or something then then wouldn't want to make it slower? Or is that just for the new socket? Whats the advantage of this over the i7? disadvantage? Thanks.
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i5 is the mainstream version of i7.



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16. August 2009 @ 19:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Look at getting the intel x25-m ssd hard drives as your boot drive, look it up on youtube. The performance on those drives is tremendous. I was thinking about getting a wd raptor, but instead will be getting the intel ssd as my next drive due to the raptors questionable longevity problems that I have read about.
I think for 2000.00 or less you can get a decent game machine, even with the intel ssd and I7 cpu. That's if you build it yourself.

You need to research all the latest SSD hard drives, that's where the performance is. Programs load instantly and also games will load quicker. The intel ssd in particular has a new controller that increases it's read/write capability finally beating the conventional hard drives.
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16. August 2009 @ 19:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
There are no problems with the longevity of the raptors, never have been outside the 150GB drives which are old now. If you're getting an X25-M remember to get the second generation drives as they perform much better.
Remember this is australian dollars, which often carries a double+ price premium on US dollars.



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16. August 2009 @ 20:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
This is from a Australia place I get parts called MSY. msy.com.au.

Motherboard: ASUS Deluxe-OC-Palm $519
DDR3 RAM 6GB Kit DDR3 2000 G.Skill-Trident $219
HDD: W.D. SATA HDD 2TB $309
Video Card: 1792MB GTX 295 ASUS $722
CPU: Core i7 -950 $769
Blue Ray Drive LG SATA Blu-Ray Writer $235
Blue Ray Drive LG SATA Blu-Ray Writer $235 Get two.
Tower case: Lian-Li Full PC-P80B $469
PSU: Coolermaster RealPower Pro UCP1100W EPS $335
Monitir 26? ASUS VK266H $599
Mouse Keyboard: Logitech MX5500 DiNovo Media $189
TV Card: Compro VideoMate Vista E900F $209
OEM MS 64 bit Vista Ultimate $249
1 yr. Parts and Labor warranty (plus building) $80
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All this for the most expensive price of..... $5381

If you want to spend 15,000 just buy 3 of them!
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Motherboard: 3/10 - reasons: Asus build quality [minus 3], needlessly expensive [minus 2], questionable heatsink stability [minus 1], poor I/O design [minus 1]
RAM: 9/10 - reasons: G-Skill not 100% compatible [minus 1]
HDD: 10/10
CPU: 9/10 - reasons: Difficult to find the best value i7
Drives: 10/10, but you really only need one unless you're cloning blurays to recordable media (why not just rip them to the HDD instead?)
Case: 7/10 - reasons: price [minus 3]
PSU: 1/10 - reasons: coolermaster PSU [minus 3], noise [minus 2], price [minus 2], absurdly overpowered for requirements [minus 2]
Monitor: 5/10 - reasons: Asus build quality [minus 1], basic TN image quality [minus 4]
Graphics: 6/10 - reasons: Inconsistant performance at best [minus 4]



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17. August 2009 @ 00:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by sammorris:
i5 is the mainstream version of i7.
What does that mean?

and "RAM: 9/10 - reasons: G-Skill not 100% compatible [minus 1] "

Huh what do you mean? Thanks.

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Originally posted by EricCarr:
This is from a Australia place I get parts called MSY. msy.com.au.

Motherboard: ASUS Deluxe-OC-Palm $519
DDR3 RAM 6GB Kit DDR3 2000 G.Skill-Trident $219
HDD: W.D. SATA HDD 2TB $309
Video Card: 1792MB GTX 295 ASUS $722
CPU: Core i7 -950 $769
Blue Ray Drive LG SATA Blu-Ray Writer $235
Blue Ray Drive LG SATA Blu-Ray Writer $235 Get two.
Tower case: Lian-Li Full PC-P80B $469
PSU: Coolermaster RealPower Pro UCP1100W EPS $335
Monitir 26? ASUS VK266H $599
Mouse Keyboard: Logitech MX5500 DiNovo Media $189
TV Card: Compro VideoMate Vista E900F $209
OEM MS 64 bit Vista Ultimate $249
1 yr. Parts and Labor warranty (plus building) $80
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All this for the most expensive price of..... $5381

If you want to spend 15,000 just buy 3 of them!
Well I like the idea of a 2T HDD but what I want to do is have windows on a 512G SSD (Sure to Bring up the Cost) to make the boot time quicker and have 2x 2T HDD if the motherboard supports 3 Drives.
Got to be kidding Vista, I'll get windows 7 Ultimate Edition. Also 12G DDR-Ram would be welcome. But a part from that it sounds good. Anyone have any ideas how I could get any better performance.



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17. August 2009 @ 07:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You can't buy Windows 7 yet, but buying Vista means you get a free upgrade to Windows 7 when it is released.
A 512GB SSD is a bad idea. Maybe RAID some 160GB Intel X25s together though (they're much better than any other SSDs on the market)



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Well I like the idea of a 2T HDD but what I want to do is have windows on a 512G SSD (Sure to Bring up the Cost) to make the boot time quicker and have 2x 2T HDD if the motherboard supports 3 Drives.
Got to be kidding Vista, I'll get windows 7 Ultimate Edition. Also 12G DDR-Ram would be welcome. But a part from that it sounds good. Anyone have any ideas how I could get any better performance.
I don't use Vista either. I still use XP right now. You can get an upgrade from Vista when Windows 7 is released.

I would suggest a smaller HDD to put your windows on and make the 2TB drive in a enclosure for media stuff.
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Don't put in an enclosure for the sake of it as that massively reduces performance (and often increases noise!)



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I've chosen after many hours of surfing the net of getting this ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nvidia_Tesla_Personal_Supercomputer ). It's the Nvidia Tesla Personal Supercomputer. It's $12,000 AUD and it's perfect. Here's more info:The Tesla Personal Supercomputer is a desktop computer that is backed by Nvidia and built by Dell, Lenovo and other companies. It is meant to be a demonstration of the capabilities of Nvidia's Tesla GPGPU brand; it utilizes NVIDIA's CUDA parallel computing architecture and powered by up to 960 parallel processing cores, which allows it to achieve a performance up to 250 times faster than standard PCs, according to Nvidia. It's coming out on the market late 2009 or early 2010. Picture: http://blog.loaz.com/media/blogs/timwang...ESLA-NVIDIA.jpg
What do you think?



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Well it's a powerful rendering machine, but it's not going to be able to play any games. Since you haven't stated what you want to use the PC for, I don't know if that's what you want or not.



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Originally posted by sammorris:
Well it's a powerful rendering machine, but it's not going to be able to play any games. Since you haven't stated what you want to use the PC for, I don't know if that's what you want or not.
In one of the first posts I said (Any way I am a huge gamer and I do a lot of video encoding. As well as a lot of downloading). So is that unable to run as a x86 or a 64 bit machine. Basically Linux. Nah If only does that then I want a computer that actuality runs windows.



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18. August 2009 @ 18:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by sammorris:
i7 975: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115212
Biostar X58: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138135
2 of these 6GB Corsair XMS3: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145253
Three HD5870s when they are released next month
Intel 80GB Gen. II SSD When available http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167016
WD 1TB Performance Drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136284
2 of these WD 2TB Green Drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136344
Lian-Li PC-P80 case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112159
Zalman 1KW PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817379009
Thermalright Ultra120Extreme-1366RT Cooler: http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/i...oducts_id=24727
LG Bluray Burner Drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136137

This lot's around $3200 plus shipping, without the graphics cards added, as I don't know exactly how much they'll cost.
Thank you very much for your list I will go with the components you've got there. I will look out for them when I go to my computer market next week.

Thanks for all your help

Cheers Hasamoder



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18. August 2009 @ 18:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Again, take note that the graphics cards won't be out until the 10th of September at the earliest.



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19. August 2009 @ 02:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Seems like a rather sad system.

No hardware RAID card, only one SSD, 1TB temp, and 1TB storage?

...And where's the phase change cooling? For $15,000 it should have something like this: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/7324/e...366.html?tl=g49 to make the CPU run at extreme speed.

here is a slightly nicer build for you:
Mainboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128362 (almost the same as Sammoris's recomendation, except it has an extra PCIe x8 slot)
CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115212
memory: 2 of these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145242 (same spec's as sammoris's memory, but cheaper and physicly smaller)
video: Two HD5870s when they are released next month (three would not help much anyway, as the third would only run at x4 even if there was a slot for it)
Boot Drives: 4 of these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167016
Storage Drives: 4 of these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148337
Raid Controler: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816116068
SFF-8087 to SATA cables (need 2 of these) - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816116099
Power supply: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139007
LG Bluray Burner Drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136137
Cooler: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/6233/e...html?tl=g49c275 -
(with i7 mounting kit on same page)
Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112164
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate x64


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