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BenDover
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12. July 2012 @ 20:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi everyone,

I'm new to a lot of this so I'll do my best describing my problem. I will provide any additional info if needed.

I downloaded a music concert that came as a .ts file (5.54GB) I need to burn it to DVD. Either single layer or dual layer DVD is fine. Converting it has been no trouble as I have used several different methods converting it and all have ended up with successful and similar results. The converted .avi looks really good and the audio is just about as good as the original. The problem I'm having is when I burn it to DVD. Once the DVD is burnt the concerts volume is very, very low.

I checked the original .ts file for volume compared to the converted .avi file for volume levels which are the same. Burn the .avi to disc I need to turn the TVs' volume up to 50 to achieve a normal listening level yet switch to a menu on the DVD and the sound blasts you out of your chair!

I used Nero Video 11 to burn it to disc because it is easy to create menus with.

Any idea's. I'm sure you will need more info that what I provided which I will be happy to provide. Thanks in advance everyone.

Hugh Jass Koda
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scorpNZ
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13. July 2012 @ 01:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Audio bitrate the higher it is the more volume is required or you have dual audio streams or 1 stream down mixed,should be obvious in menu audio selection surely it would show them if there's more than 1

BenDover
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13. July 2012 @ 02:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thank You for the response. I'll lower the audio bit rate to 224. i did select a higher bit rate but not sure what it was. Like I said I'm new to a lot of this.

Thanks again

Koda
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13. July 2012 @ 14:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You'd be better off leaving it at the higher rate unless you want to recode later for playing thru a stereo or media centre speaker setup,see if your dvd player has option to downmix multichannel audio to 2 channel instead

hello_hello
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15. July 2012 @ 15:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If audio bitrate has an effect on the playback volume it's news to me. Take converting a CD to MP3 as an example. You can convert it using a low bitrate or a high bitrate, but while the quality may be different the volume should be the same.

Are you converting the original file to AVI, then converting the AVI to create a normal "video" DVD? If you're converting it twice as it sounds, maybe Nero is doing something odd when it converts the audio again.
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15. July 2012 @ 20:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The op is not clear when he mentions switching to the menu then it blasts him,that suggests there is two audio streams,the lower sounding one is most probably 5:1 the other is 2ch or there is down mixing gong on,regardless the lower the bitrate the higher volume will appear to get or lower if you take the bitrate up same goes for mp3,it does happen i can hear it plain as day on audio on my flac then switch to mp3 of 320 then to 256 to 128 to 64 the sound increases in intensity & volume needs to be turned down,bear in mind i haven't used any normalization on vlc or the encoding i've done i, n fact i'm pretty sure i left the volume at album set level when i ripped them so why the increase in volume the lower the bitrate you go is beyond me


go grab the free app mediainfo it'll tell you what bitrate the original audio will be,just right clik on any of the video type files in the ts folder or if there's no right clik context menu just drag n drop it onto mediainfo widow

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 15. July 2012 @ 20:06

BenDover
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23. July 2012 @ 02:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks everyone for your help so far. I have the media info for the converted .avi I did from the original .ts file. Hopefully this will help.

General
Complete name : C:\Users\XXXXXXXXXX\Desktop\Katy Perry\Katy Perry - London Live 2010.avi
Format : AVI
Format/Info : Audio Video Interleave
Format profile : OpenDML
File size : 3.20 GiB
Duration : 44mn 18s
Overall bit rate : 10.4 Mbps

Video
ID : 0
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : Baseline@L5.0
Format settings, CABAC : No
Format settings, ReFrames : 1 frame
Codec ID : H264
Duration : 44mn 18s
Bit rate : 10.1 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 30.000 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.163
Stream size : 3.13 GiB (98%)

Audio
ID : 1
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Codec ID : 2000
Duration : 44mn 18s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 224 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 71.0 MiB (2%)
Alignment : Aligned on interleaves
Interleave, duration : 32 ms (0.96 video frame)
Interleave, preload duration : 96 ms

The issue again is the movies audio is very low. Normally I will have the tv's volume around 6 or 7 in normal use. When playing the final dvd I have to turn the tv's volume up to 50 or 60 to achieve the normal listening level.

Again, I appologize for my inexperience with all this and my poor description of the problem.

Koda
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scorpNZ
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23. July 2012 @ 15:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Audio appears to be normal stereo which leaves amplification by whatever unit is playing the dvd or the sudden increase in volume you speak of could be attributed to your dvd player downmixing or something to a much lower bitrate,i don't use stand alone dvd players so i have no idea why or what this happening

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