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13. October 2005 @ 17:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Triock

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Sophocles is right, jump right in and contribute to the thread. Sophocles, Donald and the rest of us are here to assist as we can. Have you decided on a board and processor yet?

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13. October 2005 @ 17:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Triok,
In response to your post the Abit board is a nice board. The heat pipe chipset cooler is a nice addition. The Asus doesn't get the heatpipe until the SLI premium for about 70 dollars extra.

The ASUS version of the Abit board is only 5 dollars more at $115.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131530

It is a toss up but I'd probably spend the extra $5 for the ASUS.

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The Venice core 3500+ will clock well past 2.6 ghz but is dependant on good memory for results.

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The Asus doesn't get the heatpipe until the SLI premium for about 70 dollars extra.
Tell me about it! The problem in the Asus sli deluxe is that the chipset fan can fail, and considering that it's running at around 8000 rpms it's no wonder. If you are among those out there who've experienced a chipset overheat problem with the A8N-SLI Deluxe you can phone Asus and they'll send you a replacement heatsinck and fan for the chipset. I got my replacement in less than a week. If you're in the market to buy then go for the premium.

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Triok was on a tight budget.

I did just pick up the Asus Sli premium for 125 including shipping, Newegg refurb.
I'm still testing and tweaking but it runs fine. Very quiet.

The price has gone down a little.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131540R

For Triok I wouldn't recomend the refurbs though. No useful warranty from newegg.

Donald

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I did just pick up the Asus Sli premium for 125 including shipping, Newegg refurb.
I'm still testing and tweaking but it runs fine. Very quiet
BITE ME!

With that off my chest, what memory are you using? LOL

BTW, I've read of X2 4400 running at 3.2 GHZ with water cooling.

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Hmmm... Just when I was thinking electricity and water didn't work well together. LOL

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14. October 2005 @ 03:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The new board just has my value Kingmax 400 until I can get something better.

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18. October 2005 @ 07:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Sophocles
My system looks like coming down to mebbe this
Asus A8N-SLI/Premium (cos of the heatpipe)
AMD Athlon 64 3700+ San Diego
and....
Corsair Value Select 2GB 400 PC3200 (2 x 1) OR
Geil Value 2GB 400 PC3200 3-8-4-4 with Alum Heat Spreader
The Geil is much cheaper than the Corsair?
Any [FREE :)] advice still goin'
Cheers
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tophawk

Sounds good to me and the value select will do just fine as long as your not going to heavily overclock.

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Sophocles
Cheers for that
I'll keep you posted
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19. October 2005 @ 01:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Electricity and water never work well together. Leaks do happen, I would never trust that. Ever.



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sammorris
You referring to the heatpipe?
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19. October 2005 @ 03:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
sammorris

The heatpipe doesn't use water or a fan, it's passive cooling.

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I just spray water on my processor when it heats up:)


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19. October 2005 @ 04:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks Sophocles that's what I thought

64026402
Perhaps I would be safer not sprayin' water but just pack a bit of ice around the chip ;)
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I just keep the PC in the freezer. Now I have a problem with the optical drives getting frosted. ;)

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brobear
BIG mistake that - you gotta run the opticals externally so they don't get too cold and makes it more pleasant to load media.
U like COLDPLAY
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No matter what benchmarks say, people will always have a preference. I'm an AMD fan myself.

That said, this whole thread is basically just "Ford vs. Chevy" for the geek generation.
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Couldn't Agree more, I'm an AMD and ATi man, but I WON'T count out nvidia cards, they're alright (he says since this backup PC has one)



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19. October 2005 @ 13:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I made a PC out of an old mini fridge. I put the optical drives on top beside the monitor and the keyboard in front of the monitor. I don't have any heat problems but it sure costs a lot to run this computer. On the plus side I always have cold beverages when I'm at the system.

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19. October 2005 @ 13:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well actually the best cooling system involves buying a heavyduty heatsink (without a fan) and then welding a pipe to it. Once that's done you fill the pipe with liguid nitrogen and then overclock the snot out of the CPU.

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I wasn't aware of the high snot content in the silicon.

This thread originally came from the apparent CCE encoding advantage from the Athlon 64 series processors, not just preference.
It did turn into a shooting match for a bit.

For reference DVDshrink tends to favor the P4.

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Is there a snot quotient for DVD Shrink as well?

Love them Chevys and Fords. LOL Like we needed someone to tell us...

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