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playing online with HDloader?
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jaysexxin
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28. August 2004 @ 22:56 |
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i know about the whole DNAS issue, but will i able to play online with HDloader if i follow the steps provided for playing backups online? if so, how do i apply the patch, and the new dnas code? thanks in advance
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Icemonkey
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29. August 2004 @ 04:37 |
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No you cannot play online using HD Loader. Although you might be able to patch the original disc ID into the backup the DNAS process will still fail due to the hard drive being used and you will not be able to proceed even with a correct disc ID.
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snuggles1
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8. September 2004 @ 13:39 |
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how can i copy the dnas file so i can play online with my game on the hdloader as i have quite a few online games
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GlennT
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8. September 2004 @ 22:20 |
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YOU CAN NOT PLAY ONLINE WITH HD LOADER
it DISABLES the network adpater, so it wont evcenb let you CONNECT, so it wont even get to the dnas check
also, i have foudn that the patch thing rarely works, if at all
i havent got a single game to work yet, even after following all the insturctions
i boot my dvd-r and it connects, but then wont get past dna's
i get the same error whether i patch the disc or not
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PupDog44
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9. September 2004 @ 04:01 |
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Patching a disk always works, i have done it multiple times and never had any problems.
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finty101
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9. September 2004 @ 08:35 |
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Can HDAdvance be used online?
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Icemonkey
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9. September 2004 @ 11:38 |
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If it's true that HD Loader or HD Advance disable the network function then it wouldn't matter what you patch, it would be like trying to go online without the network adapter hooked up.
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Phantasy Star Uploader v1.1
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Budnick
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15. September 2004 @ 18:26 |
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bL33d
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15. September 2004 @ 18:46 |
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!!WoW!! my head hurts after reading that :P I have no idea i have yet to try it but if ur network adapter wont work when it uses the hard drive then no... no online no matter how much patching u do.
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finty101
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16. September 2004 @ 09:31 |
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Socom 1 does have DNAS, well the PAL one anyway. Plus the server is shut down.
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GlennT
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16. September 2004 @ 10:28 |
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HDLOADER/HDADVANCE = NO ONLINE PLAY
thats all you need to know
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finty101
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16. September 2004 @ 11:30 |
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Thats what I thought too. Do you guys think it will ever be possible? Like if a new program was written?
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GlennT
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16. September 2004 @ 11:46 |
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i dont see why not, sicne FFXI is an online game and its ONLY available on HDD as far as i know
i guess that if someone could write a new program they mgiht be able to fix this issue
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finty101
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16. September 2004 @ 11:50 |
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I doubt we will see another commercial venture though. Homebrew is a major possibility on PS2 though.
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GlennT
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16. September 2004 @ 11:54 |
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yeah, the first HDLOADER retail version has already been flammed by sony, so im guessing that there wont be many if any more retail releases
to be honest, now that there is less chance of being able to SELL another version of this product, i very much doubt that we will see any other versions
if a company coudl SELL it, it would give them a much larger incentive to actually make the new version
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finty101
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16. September 2004 @ 12:15 |
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After HDAdvance is killed, HDLoader might leak source. Could happen, more than likely not.
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deltoid
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19. September 2004 @ 20:46 |
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you can play games online with HDLoader. I have been playing Tony Hawks 4 off my hdd and it works fine. Just games with DNS I dont know how to get working.
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GlennT
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20. September 2004 @ 08:27 |
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which version pof hd loader are you using
as far as i know, it disbales the network adapter
which is why whebnever i try to go online with a game from the hdd, it will not even get to teh dnas test, becaus eit wont even CONNECT to the network at all
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GlennT
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20. September 2004 @ 11:39 |
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HOLY SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!
I TAKE IT BACK
CRAP
i jsut tried both tony hawks and twisted metal blakc online
THEY BOTH PLAY ONLINE FINE FROM THE HD LOADER
i use PAL games, PAL console and the mem card exploit hd loader
HOLY COW
howcoem the others dont work then..........even if you patch them
i could havwe sworn that BOTH these games definitely DID NOT WORK BEFORE
why are they working for me now?
holy crapola
sorry for saying it defintiely doesnt work for ANY games
OH MY GOD I ENVER KNEW THIS
WOO YEAH!
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so, now comes the interesting question......
if i backup my games, patch them, then put them on the hdd with hdhandiness or similar.......will that work?
i dotn think this can be an ENTIRELY DNAS issue
sicne TWISTED METAL BLACK ONLINE DOES HAVE A SORT OF DNAS CHECK
when you play it, it does QUICKLY say "checking dnas data"
but it doesnt do the usual authentication thing liek in all the otehr games
but it does definitely tell me that it is checking the dnas data
so hoemcoem other games wont work?
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GlennT
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20. September 2004 @ 13:31 |
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well thats SO wierd
TM:BO WORKS PERFECTLY ONLINE FROM THE HDD
THPS4 WORKS PERFECTLY ONLINE FROM THE HDD
but any other of my games wont work for shit
i patched XIII, Medal Of Honour: Rising Sun, and Need For Speed Underground
and NONE of them worked
i see no reason why they wouldn't if the others do
i dont understand this at all now
i mean, if it was because the network adapter was disbaled by hd loader, at least that would make sense
but that is CLEARLY NOW NOT THE REASON since i have got 2 games to work perfectly
with the other 3 games, it either says "hardware not connected", which it wuite clearly is, or like with XIII, it says "connecting" and jsut stays there saying "connecting" FOREVER, and everythign is basically frozen (although the zzz's are still moving at the top of the screen, so its technically not frozen, but you cant get back or forwards from that point, so....)
im BAFFLED
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finty101
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20. September 2004 @ 14:10 |
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Hmmm, I will have to try this, Maybe someone hacked the Memory Card one to realise the NA was there?
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deltoid
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20. September 2004 @ 14:25 |
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Yeah I dont know away around it but I'd like to find one. Whenever I try and get online with Burnout3 it just freezes on the connecting screen. I am using a PAL PS2 with the memcard exploit. I have the same results when I use the HDLoader CD. I bought the cd but it doesn't always load so I did the exploit as well.
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GlennT
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20. September 2004 @ 14:28 |
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okay, i jsut did soem googling
and from waht i can work out
the reason that soem games DONT work with hdloader is due to the way that HDLOADER FORMATS the drive
ANY GAME wiht DNAS checks will not let you connect online because when it boots the game it must do soem check THEN and recognise that a NON SONY hard drive is being used, and it therefore disables the network adapter
so, if soemone has the OFFICIAL SONY HDD they could test this theory for me
basically what you'd need to do is make an image of the online game that has DNAS checking
PATCH the image wiht the patchign tool to make sure the image has a CORRECT DISC ID from the ORIGINAL GAME
then, load that image into the ps2 hdd via the PC, using soemthign liek hd handiness,
THEN.........huff.........put the hdd BACK into the ps2, load up hdloader, boot the game, and see if it lets you go online then
another test woudl be to do all that
except without laoding hd laoder
if its an official drive, the gfame shopudl appear in the browser correct?
so you could alspom try booting the patched game fromt here
iw oudl be very interested to know if thios works on an offical sony drive
if iot does then we jsut need to wait for someone to make a 3rd party drive recognisabel by the ps2 as an official drive
i guess it must be SOEMTHIGN to do with the way it is formatted
well, thats my research for the night
bye for now
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finty101
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21. September 2004 @ 11:59 |
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Sony said they might start searching for the HDLoader files, and then banning.
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deltoid
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21. September 2004 @ 14:27 |
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Seems pretty stupid if sony did that. HDLoader isn't actually breaking the law. Your entitled to back your games up to save damage to them.
Plus the fact that Sony is going to release a HDD of there own. They just want to own the market which is why they are jerks.
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