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Nero Error - illegal disk - Please Help
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25. March 2006 @ 01:49 |
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@Dave
The firmware really shouldn't have anything to do with pixellation, stuttering, etc. Typically those things are caused by:
1. Too much compression, fix by using DA and AEC...you've done that.
2. Burning too fast...you burn at 4X
3. Applying paper labels...are you doing this?
4. Poor quality media...you are using top quality Verbs.
5. Multitasking...you say to step away from the puter.
I'm somewhat baffled, could you post another log? Yes you can flash back to original firmware if you so wish to as long as you don't fry your drive with the first flash...LOL Don't be scared of flashing your drive, just be cautious, read all that you can about it from the link provided earlier, take a deep breath and do it. I flashed my first drive about six months ago and it was no big deal, just follow the instructions in the readme file.
EDIT: What was your compression ratio on the movie you are currently having problems with? Full disc or Reauthor mode?
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hitmang17
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25. March 2006 @ 05:30 |
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I ran Roxizap but still no dice. Here is my most recent log:
Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: -
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Nero\Nero 7\Core\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 11/2/2004 12:54:32 PM
NT-SPTI used
Nero Version: 7.0.8.2
Internal Version: 7, 0, 8, 2
Recorder: <TSSTcorp CD/DVDW TS-L532U>Version: GA03 - HA 1 TA 0 - 7.0.8.2
Adapter driver: <IDE> HA 1
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ?
CD-ROM: <TSSTcorp CD/DVDW TS-L532U>Version: GA03 - HA 1 TA 0 - 7.0.8.2
Adapter driver: <IDE> HA 1
=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : FUJITSU MHV2100AT PL atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : TSSTcorp CD/DVDW TS-L532U atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On
=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
TSSTcorp CD/DVDW TS-L532U E: CDRom0
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AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
WriteBufferSize: 83886080 (0) Byte
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 1022MB (1046636kB)
Free physical memory: 633MB (648488kB)
Memory in use : 38 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)
25.3.2006
Burn DVD Image
10:04:31 AM #1 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 531
ReadBuffer-Pipe got 81920KB of Memory
10:04:31 AM #2 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 124
Reader running
10:04:31 AM #3 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 113
Writer E: TSSTcorp CD/DVDW TS-L532U running
10:04:31 AM #4 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3353
Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media
10:04:31 AM #5 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 289
Last possible write address on media: 2298495 (510:46.45, 4489MB)
Last address to be written: 2039053 (453:07.28, 3982MB)
10:04:31 AM #6 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 301
Write in overburning mode: NO
10:04:31 AM #7 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2715
Recorder: TSSTcorp CD/DVDW TS-L532U, Media type: DVD-R
Disc Manufacturer: FUJIFI - LM03
Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193
10:04:31 AM #8 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 473
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
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10:04:31 AM #9 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 847
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 (2 - CD-ROM Mode 1, ISO 9660)
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 2039054 (2039054) = #2039054/453:7.29
not relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/not required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2039054 blocks [E: TSSTcorp CD/DVDW TS-L532U]
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10:04:31 AM #10 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1059
Prepare recorder [E: TSSTcorp CD/DVDW TS-L532U] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
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MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
Tracks 1 to 1:
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 4175982592, ISRC ""
DAO layout:
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__Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep__________
0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
2039054 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
10:04:31 AM #11 Text 0 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 39
SPTILockVolume - completed successfully for FCTL_LOCK_VOLUME
10:04:31 AM #12 Text 0 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 84
SPTIDismountVolume - completed successfully for FSCTL_DISMOUNT_VOLUME
10:04:31 AM #13 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1730
Caching of files started
10:04:31 AM #14 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4187
Cache writing successful.
10:04:31 AM #15 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1730
Caching of files completed
10:04:31 AM #16 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1730
Burn process started at 4x (5,540 KB/s)
10:04:31 AM #17 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2707
Verifying disc position of item 0 (not relocatable, no disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0
10:04:31 AM #18 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2760
Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode
10:04:31 AM #19 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2916
Start write address at LBA 0
DVD high compatibility mode: Yes
10:04:31 AM #20 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8661
---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
Media Type: 0, Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
Book Type: DVD-R (2), Part Version: 2.0x (5), Extended Part Version: 0.0 (0)
Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: 10.08 Mbps (2 h)
Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h
End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h (LBN: FFFD0000 h, 4193920 MB)
Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
Start sector number of the current Border-Out: 0 h
Start sector number of the next Border-In: 0 h
Media Specific [16..63]:
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
10:23:22 AM #21 SPTI -1135 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 290
E: CdRom0: SCSIStatus(x02) WinError(0) NeroError(-1135)
Sense Key: 0x03 (KEY_MEDIUM_ERROR)
Sense Code: 0x0C
Sense Qual: 0x00
CDB Data: 0x2A 00 00 1D 80 60 00 00 20 00 00 00
Sense Area: 0x70 00 03 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 0C
Buffer x05460000: Len x10000
0x00 00 01 BA 46 38 BC 9C 75 AF 01 89 C3 F8 00 00
0x01 E0 07 EC 81 00 00 E9 4B 0E AE 8A C8 B0 6A 37
0x78 B4 44 33 A1 D4 47 3C C0 D0 70 40 D6 7B 43 4B
10:23:22 AM #22 CDR -1135 File Writer.cpp, Line 302
Write error
E: TSSTcorp CD/DVDW TS-L532U
10:23:22 AM #23 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
all writers idle, stopping conversion
10:23:23 AM #24 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 222
conversion idle, stopping reader
10:23:23 AM #25 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 3156
EndDAO: Last written address was 1933407
10:23:23 AM #26 Phase 38 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1730
Burn process failed at 4x (5,540 KB/s)
Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\ADPU160M.SYS': Ver=v3.60a (Lab01_N(johnstra).010529-2218), size=101888 bytes, created 8/10/2004 2:00:00 PM
File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=2.03.26a, size=20576 bytes, created 5/13/2005 4:54:10 AM (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)
Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)
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25. March 2006 @ 05:37 |
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Quote:
Media Specific [16..63]:
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
There should be some numbers here besides the zeroes if your discs are being recognized, try another brand, Fuji may not be supported by your drive.
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Sense Key: 0x03 (KEY_MEDIUM_ERROR)
This error indicated the same as above, try another brand such as Verbatim or Taiyo Yuden, Sony, Maxell (made in Japan).
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25. March 2006 @ 08:37 |
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Update: Still no issues burning as long as I kill the Music Match process (if its running) before I burn.
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25. March 2006 @ 08:47 |
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Conflict found, congrats. Happy burning.
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Dave_3
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25. March 2006 @ 09:00 |
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Nope, no labels. One of the disks I did had zero compression and the other was at 70%. In the past I've done it in the low 60's with no problems even... so I'm not sure either. It seems as though I've upgraded my entire process... how can I be turning out terrible results compared to my old method?!?! How can i get another log for you? If the disk completes it doesn't offer to have a log like when you end up with an error message... Let me know and I'll post one up for you.
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25. March 2006 @ 13:30 |
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The log should be there, you use Nero 6 or Nero 7?
Nero 6 history log location: Program Files>Ahead>Nero>NeroHistory.txt
Nero 7 history log location: Program Files>Nero>Nero 7>Core>NeroHistory.txt
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28. March 2006 @ 17:18 |
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hitmang17
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2. April 2006 @ 10:36 |
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I was able to get one good burn with a Japan-made Maxell, but no more. Here's a new log. I appreciate the work you all do.
Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: -
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Nero\Nero 7\Core\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 11/2/2004 1:54:32 PM
NT-SPTI used
Nero Version: 7.0.8.2
Internal Version: 7, 0, 8, 2
Recorder: <TSSTcorp CD/DVDW TS-L532U>Version: GA03 - HA 1 TA 0 - 7.0.8.2
Adapter driver: <IDE> HA 1
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ?
CD-ROM: <TSSTcorp CD/DVDW TS-L532U>Version: GA03 - HA 1 TA 0 - 7.0.8.2
Adapter driver: <IDE> HA 1
=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : FUJITSU MHV2100AT PL atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : TSSTcorp CD/DVDW TS-L532U atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On
=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
TSSTcorp CD/DVDW TS-L532U E: CDRom0
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AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
WriteBufferSize: 83886080 (0) Byte
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 1022MB (1046636kB)
Free physical memory: 611MB (626480kB)
Memory in use : 40 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)
2.4.2006
Burn DVD Image
3:01:25 PM #1 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 531
ReadBuffer-Pipe got 81920KB of Memory
3:01:25 PM #2 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 124
Reader running
3:01:25 PM #3 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 113
Writer E: TSSTcorp CD/DVDW TS-L532U running
3:01:25 PM #4 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3353
Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media
3:01:25 PM #5 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 289
Last possible write address on media: 2295103 (510:01.28, 4482MB)
Last address to be written: 1208507 (268:33.32, 2360MB)
3:01:25 PM #6 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 301
Write in overburning mode: NO
3:01:25 PM #7 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2715
Recorder: TSSTcorp CD/DVDW TS-L532U, Media type: DVD+R
Disc Manufacturer ID: YUDEN000, Media Type ID: T02, Product revision number: 0
Disc Application Code: 0, Extended Information Indicators: 3
3:01:25 PM #8 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 473
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
=========================================
3:01:25 PM #9 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 847
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 (2 - CD-ROM Mode 1, ISO 9660)
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 1208508 (1208508) = #1208508/268:33.33
not relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/not required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 1208508 blocks [E: TSSTcorp CD/DVDW TS-L532U]
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3:01:25 PM #10 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1059
Prepare recorder [E: TSSTcorp CD/DVDW TS-L532U] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
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MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
Tracks 1 to 1:
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 2475024384, ISRC ""
DAO layout:
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__Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep__________
0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
1208508 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
3:01:25 PM #11 Text 0 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 39
SPTILockVolume - completed successfully for FCTL_LOCK_VOLUME
3:01:25 PM #12 Text 0 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 84
SPTIDismountVolume - completed successfully for FSCTL_DISMOUNT_VOLUME
3:01:25 PM #13 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1730
Caching of files started
3:01:25 PM #14 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4187
Cache writing successful.
3:01:25 PM #15 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1730
Caching of files completed
3:01:25 PM #16 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1730
Burn process started at 4x (5,540 KB/s)
3:01:25 PM #17 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2707
Verifying disc position of item 0 (not relocatable, no disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0
3:01:26 PM #18 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8661
---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
Media Type: 0, Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
Book Type: DVD+R (10), Part Version: 1.0x (1)
Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 26053F h
End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h (LBN: FFFD0000 h, 4193920 MB)
Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
Disc Application Code: 0 / 0 h
Extended Information indicators: 3 h
Disc Manufacturer ID: YUDEN000
Media type ID: T02
Product revision number: 0
Number of Physical format information bytes in use in ADIP up to byte 63: 56
Media Specific [16..63]:
00 00 03 59 55 44 45 4E - 30 30 30 54 30 32 00 38 ...YUDEN000T02.8
23 54 37 10 02 4E 72 02 - 8C 63 16 16 0B 0B 0A 0A #T7..Nr..c......
01 19 1B 0C 0C 0C 0D 01 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
3:01:26 PM #19 SPTI -1065 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 290
E: CdRom0: SCSIStatus(x02) WinError(0) NeroError(-1065)
Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
Sense Code: 0x20
Sense Qual: 0x00
CDB Data: 0xFF 06 10 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 AA
Sense Area: 0x70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 20
Buffer x0355da00: Len x2
3:01:26 PM #20 Text 0 File DVDPlusRW.cpp, Line 666
Start write address at LBA 0
DVD high compatibility mode: Yes
3:05:16 PM #21 SPTI -1135 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 290
E: CdRom0: SCSIStatus(x02) WinError(0) NeroError(-1135)
Sense Key: 0x03 (KEY_MEDIUM_ERROR)
Sense Code: 0x0C
Sense Qual: 0x00
CDB Data: 0x2A 00 00 00 59 60 00 00 20 00 00 00
Sense Area: 0x70 00 03 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 0C
Buffer x0a1c0000: Len x10000
0x00 00 01 BA 44 0A F4 FD 36 2D 01 89 C3 F8 00 00
0x01 E0 07 EC 81 00 00 B2 22 CC 0D A8 D7 11 67 C9
0xA3 7E 1F 68 DF A6 30 3E 96 CD 0A 88 5B 70 91 2E
3:05:16 PM #22 CDR -1135 File Writer.cpp, Line 302
Write error
E: TSSTcorp CD/DVDW TS-L532U
3:05:16 PM #23 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
all writers idle, stopping conversion
3:05:16 PM #24 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 222
conversion idle, stopping reader
3:05:17 PM #25 SPTI -1046 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 290
E: CdRom0: SCSIStatus(x02) WinError(0) NeroError(-1046)
Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
Sense Code: 0x30
Sense Qual: 0x05
CDB Data: 0x5B 01 01 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00
Sense Area: 0x70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 30 05
3:05:17 PM #26 SPTI -1046 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 290
E: CdRom0: SCSIStatus(x02) WinError(0) NeroError(-1046)
Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
Sense Code: 0x30
Sense Qual: 0x05
CDB Data: 0x5B 01 05 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
Sense Area: 0x70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 30 05
3:05:17 PM #27 Phase 127 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1730
Generating DVD high compatibility borders
3:05:17 PM #28 CDR -1046 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 167
Illegal disc
E: TSSTcorp CD/DVDW TS-L532U
3:05:17 PM #29 TRANSFER -24 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 167
Could not perform end of Disc-at-once
3:05:17 PM #30 Phase 38 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1730
Burn process failed at 4x (5,540 KB/s)
Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\ADPU160M.SYS': Ver=v3.60a (Lab01_N(johnstra).010529-2218), size=101888 bytes, created 8/10/2004 3:00:00 PM
File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=2.03.28a, size=20640 bytes, created 12/5/2005 1:12:26 AM (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)
Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)
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2. April 2006 @ 15:20 |
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@hitmang17
I don't see a whole lot wrong with your log...can't find firmware, Nero is current, media is excellent. My only thought would be that the TY discs are not compatable with your drive, I find this unlikely because TY is some of the best in the world, but I would try another brand and see if you have any luck.
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hitmang17
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4. April 2006 @ 15:40 |
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I have tried Pengo, Imation, Maxell (which I was able to get my one and only successful burn with, but no more) and Sony. I'm pretty lost here.
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4. April 2006 @ 16:23 |
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I have tried Pengo, Imation, Maxell (which I was able to get my one and only successful burn with, but no more) and Sony. I'm pretty lost here.
All of these discs can be dodgy especially if made in Taiwan, you need to stick with media made in Japan even with the Maxell's and Sony's. The Pengo's, Imation's and especially Memorex are ones to avoid like the plague.
Those are the Sony's in your log right? Are they newer discs like say above 8X rated speed? You might want to try either finding media that is lower in speed or higher in speed than the rating on the ones you have. I'm at a loss on this one, maybe creaky will pop back in.
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hitmang17
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4. April 2006 @ 16:41 |
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Both the Maxells and Sonys (in the log) were Japan-made and the standard 8x speed.
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5. April 2006 @ 02:41 |
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hi, just read LOCOENG's last reply there...so i will see if i can add anything new; not sure if i can though :)
can't see anything amiss in the logfile; i think the burner is an 'OEM' burner ie supplied with your PC going by the 'GA03' version of your firmware, and as far as i can see the firmware is up to date..
anyway, we talked about Pengo a bit here - http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/1/193259 and as for Imation, they use varying quality in disc manufacturers and you can't guarantee which manufacturers' discs you'll get just by looking at the disc tub..
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9. April 2006 @ 04:10 |
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@hitmang17 - any progress, good or bad yet, i'd like to close this thread soon...it's getting too unwieldy
edit- spelling corrected :)
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unweildy?
Did you have to break out the thesaurus on that one creaky?
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oops well spotted. corrected :)
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10. April 2006 @ 06:14 |
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LOL...remember i before e except after c.
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10. April 2006 @ 07:10 |
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except in the case of neighbor and weigh :)
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djmystery
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11. April 2006 @ 15:31 |
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Hey Gurus, I seem to have run into the same "Illegal Disc" problem. I was working with the Memorex DVD-Rs (which I now know are crap) but they burnt just fine. Now I've switched to Sony DVD-Rs(1x-16x) (Made in Japan) and they don't seem to burn at all. The Maximum burn speed shown is 2.4x and then I get hit with the "Illegal Disc" problem.
I own a NEC ND-6500A DVD+-RW drive (MAX Burn Speed 8x) that shipped with my Dell Laptop.
Firmware: 2.03D
Nero Version: 6.6.0.6
Could you guys please help me out?
Here's a copy of my logfile from Nero:
Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: File 'Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=4.60 (1021), size=45056 bytes, created 9/10/1999 12:06:00 PM
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 10/26/2004 4:21:30 PM
Nero Version: 6.6.0.6
Recorder: <_NEC DVD+-RW ND-6500A> Version: 203D - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.6.0.6
Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ATAPI
CD-ROM: <_NEC DVD+-RW ND-6500A>Version: 203D - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.6.0.6
Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1
=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : Hitachi HTS541080G9AT00 atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : _NEC DVD+-RW ND-6500A atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : Generic DVD-ROM 1.0 d347prt Port 2 ID 0 DMA: Off
=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
_NEC DVD+-RW ND-6500A D: CDRom0
Generic DVD-ROM F: CDRom1
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AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
WriteBufferSize: 83886080 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 1006MB (1030576kB)
Free physical memory: 587MB (602000kB)
Memory in use : 41 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)
11.4.2006
ISO compilation
5:58:38 PM #1 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6168
Iso document burn settings
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Determine maximum speed : FALSE
Simulate : FALSE
Write : TRUE
Finalize CD : TRUE
Multisession : FALSE
Burning mode : DAO
Mode : 1
ISO Level : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char)
Character set : ISO 9660
Joliet : TRUE
Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : TRUE
Allow more than 255 characters in path : TRUE
Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE
5:58:38 PM #2 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 127
Reader running
5:58:38 PM #3 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3286
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)
5:58:38 PM #4 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3155
Turn on Disc-at-once, using DVD media
5:58:39 PM #5 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 257
Last possible write address on media: 2298495 (510:46.45, 4489MB)
Last address to be written: 2230127 (495:35.02, 4355MB)
5:58:39 PM #6 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 269
Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)
5:58:39 PM #7 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2311
Recorder: _NEC DVD+-RW ND-6500A, Media type: DVD-R
Disc Manufacturer: SONY16 - D1
Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193
5:58:39 PM #8 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 431
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
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5:58:39 PM #9 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 829
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 ()
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 2230128 (2230128) = #2230128/495:35.3
relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2230128 blocks [_NEC DVD+-RW ND-6500A]
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5:58:39 PM #10 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1042
Prepare recorder [_NEC DVD+-RW ND-6500A] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
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MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
Tracks 1 to 1:
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 4567302144, ISRC ""
DAO layout:
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__Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep__________
0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
2230128 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
5:58:39 PM #11 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Caching of files started
5:58:40 PM #12 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4042
Cache writing successful.
5:58:40 PM #13 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Caching of files completed
5:58:40 PM #14 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Burn process started at 2.4x (3,324 KB/s)
5:58:40 PM #15 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2604
Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0
5:58:40 PM #16 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2300
Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode
5:58:40 PM #17 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 21079
Set BUFE: JustLink -> ON
5:58:40 PM #18 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2441
Start write address at LBA 0
DVD high compatibility mode: Yes
5:58:40 PM #19 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8332
---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
Book Type: DVD-R (2), Part Version: 5
Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 26127F h
End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h
Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
Start sector number of the current Border-Out: 2FE10 h
Start sector number of the next Border-In: 2FFA0 h
Media Specific [16..63]:
00 60 00 10 20 30 40 50 - 00 00 00 21 00 00 00 00 .`...0@P...!....
00 02 FE 10 00 02 FF A0 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
5:58:40 PM #20 SCSI -1046 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1178
SCSI Exec, HA 1, TA 0, LUN 0
Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
Sense Code: 0x30
Sense Qual: 0x05
CDB Data: 0x53 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x22 0x07 0x70 0x00 0x00 0x00
Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x05 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0A
0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x30 0x05
5:58:40 PM #21 CDR -1046 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1764
Illegal disc
_NEC DVD+-RW ND-6500A\H1 T0
5:58:40 PM #22 TRANSFER -27 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1764
Could not perform start of Disc-at-once
5:58:40 PM #23 Phase 38 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Burn process failed at 2.4x (3,324 KB/s)
Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\ADPU160M.SYS': Ver=v3.60a (Lab01_N(johnstra).010529-2218), size=101888 bytes, created 8/17/2001 2:07:32 PM
File 'Drivers\ASPI32.SYS': Ver=4.60 (1021), size=25244 bytes, created 9/10/1999 12:06:00 PM
File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=2.03.28a, size=20640 bytes, created 5/31/2005 5:36:01 PM (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)
File 'Drivers\atapi.sys': Ver=5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158), size=95360 bytes, created 8/3/2004 10:59:44 PM (Adapter driver for rec)
Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)
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11. April 2006 @ 16:17 |
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Nero Version: 6.6.0.6
Lets start with an upgrade of Nero to 6.6.0.18:
http://httpdl2.usw.nero.com/Nero-6.6.0.18.exe
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CdRomPeripheral : Generic DVD-ROM 1.0 d347prt Port 2 ID 0 DMA: Off
Two drives in the laptop...fancy. Anywho, let get the dma on for this one while we are here (shouldn't have anything to do with your error).
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/260038
And, maybe turn off the high compatability mode with the DVD-R's.
Good luck and happy burning.
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oldscho0l
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11. April 2006 @ 21:14 |
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Hey guys, first post, but ive randomly lurked here for other problems ive had :)
Another Illegal Disc error to add to this heap, perhaps someone can help me sort it out. This only started to happen recently, and its happened with 2 seperate brands of dvd-r's. the frist batch were some maxell dvd-r's that i thought just was a bad batch, so i bought some fujifilm's and am having the same prob.
Logfile:
Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: File 'Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=4.71 (0001), size=45056 bytes, created 8/14/2002 3:03:36 PM
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 11/2/2004 12:54:32 PM
NT-SPTI used
Nero Version: 6.6.1.4
Internal Version: 6, 6, 1, 4d
Recorder: <SONY DVD RW DW-D22A> Version: BYS2 - HA 1 TA 1 - 6.6.1.4
Adapter driver: <IDE> HA 1
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ?
CD-ROM: <LG CD-RW CED-8080B >Version: 1.06 - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.6.1.4
Adapter driver: <IDE> HA 1
=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : ST320011A atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
DiskPeripheral : Maxtor 4D040H2 atapi Port 0 ID 1 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : LG CD-RW CED-8080B atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : SONY DVD RW DW-D22A atapi Port 1 ID 1 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : AXV CD/DVD-ROM 2.2a a347scsi Port 2 ID 0 DMA: Off
=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
LG CD-RW CED-8080B D: CDRom0
SONY DVD RW DW-D22A E: CDRom1
AXV CD/DVD-ROM G: CDRom2
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AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
WriteBufferSize: 83886080 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 1023MB (1047792kB)
Free physical memory: 556MB (570152kB)
Memory in use : 45 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)
11.4.2006
ISO compilation
9:26:58 PM #1 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6475
Iso document burn settings
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Determine maximum speed : FALSE
Simulate : FALSE
Write : TRUE
Finalize CD : TRUE
Multisession : FALSE
Burning mode : DAO
Mode : 1
ISO Level : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char)
Character set : ISO 9660
Joliet : TRUE
Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : TRUE
Allow more than 255 characters in path : TRUE
Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE
9:26:58 PM #2 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 531
ReadBuffer-Pipe got 81920KB of Memory
9:26:58 PM #3 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 124
Reader running
9:26:58 PM #4 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 122
Writer SONY DVD RW DW-D22A running
9:26:58 PM #5 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3312
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)
9:26:58 PM #6 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3305
Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media
9:26:58 PM #7 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 281
Last possible write address on media: 2298495 (510:46.45, 4489MB)
Last address to be written: 2216383 (492:31.58, 4328MB)
9:26:58 PM #8 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 293
Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD DVD)
9:26:58 PM #9 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2612
Recorder: SONY DVD RW DW-D22A, Media type: DVD-R
Disc Manufacturer: Prodis - cF02
Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193
9:26:58 PM #10 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 459
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
=========================================
9:26:58 PM #11 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 847
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 ()
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 2216384 (2216384) = #2216384/492:31.59
relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2216384 blocks [SONY DVD RW DW-D22A]
--------------------------------------------------------------
9:26:58 PM #12 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1059
Prepare recorder [SONY DVD RW DW-D22A] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
==========
MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
Tracks 1 to 1:
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 4539154432, ISRC ""
DAO layout:
===========
__Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep__________
0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
2216384 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
9:26:58 PM #13 Text 0 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 38
SPTILockVolume - completed successfully for FCTL_LOCK_VOLUME
9:26:58 PM #14 Text 0 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 83
SPTIDismountVolume - completed successfully for FSCTL_DISMOUNT_VOLUME
9:26:58 PM #15 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1685
Caching of files started
9:26:58 PM #16 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4145
Cache writing successful.
9:26:58 PM #17 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1685
Caching of files completed
9:26:58 PM #18 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1685
Burn process started at 4x (5,540 KB/s)
9:26:58 PM #19 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2685
Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0
9:26:58 PM #20 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2707
Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode
9:26:58 PM #21 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2863
Start write address at LBA 0
DVD high compatibility mode: Yes
9:26:58 PM #22 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8647
---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
Media Type: 0, Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
Book Type: DVD-R (2), Part Version: 2.0x (5), Extended Part Version: 2.1 (33)
Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 0 h
End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h (LBN: FFFD0000 h, 4193920 MB)
Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
Start sector number of the current Border-Out: 0 h
Start sector number of the next Border-In: 0 h
Media Specific [16..63]:
00 60 00 10 20 30 40 50 - 00 00 00 21 00 00 00 00 .`...0@P...!....
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
9:27:01 PM #23 SPTI -1046 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 289
E: CdRom1: SCSIStatus(x02) WinError(0) NeroError(-1046)
Sense Key: 0x02 (KEY_NOT_READY)
Sense Code: 0x30
Sense Qual: 0x05
CDB Data: 0x2A 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 20 00 00 00
Sense Area: 0x70 00 02 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 30 05
Buffer x03110000: Len x10000
0x00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
0x00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
0x00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
9:27:01 PM #24 CDR -1046 File Writer.cpp, Line 311
Illegal disc
E: SONY DVD RW DW-D22A
9:27:01 PM #25 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
all writers idle, stopping conversion
9:27:01 PM #26 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 222
conversion idle, stopping reader
9:27:01 PM #27 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 3103
EndDAO: Last written address was -1
9:27:01 PM #28 Phase 38 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1685
Burn process failed at 4x (5,540 KB/s)
Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\ASPI32.SYS': Ver=4.71 (0001), size=17005 bytes, created 8/14/2002 3:03:36 PM
File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=2.02.39a, size=16288 bytes, created 9/25/2002 2:02:00 AM (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)
Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)
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djmystery
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12. April 2006 @ 04:57 |
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Alright I upgraded to v6.6.0.18 but am still running into the same problem.
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Two drives in the laptop...fancy. Anywho, let get the dma on for this one while we are here (shouldn't have anything to do with your error).
I don't have a 2nd drive, the 2nd drive is a virtual drive to mount isos, bins/cues etc. Sorry should've mentioned that, although like you said, it should have nothing to do with my error.
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And, maybe turn off the high compatability mode with the DVD-R's.
How do I do that? I looked through Nero's Options and wasn't able to find any option to change the DVD compatibility mode.
Thanks for your all your help so far.
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12. April 2006 @ 05:17 |
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@oldscho0l
Welcome to AD.
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Recorder: <SONY DVD RW DW-D22A> Version: BYS2 - HA 1 TA 1 - 6.6.1.4
Current firmware for your drive is BYS3, it hasn't been updated since feb of 2004 which makes it kinda old. Firmware can be found here:
http://dhc014.rpc1.org/indexOEM.htm
But according to this your drive is actually a Lite-On and can be crossflashed to use Lite-On firmware, which might be a little more current. Crossflashing is risky and can fry your drive if not done correctly...if you are interested, here is some more info: http://www.videohelp.com/dvdwriters.php?DVDnameid=741&Search=Sear...
Your Nero version is also a bit quirky, I would suggest using the clean tool to remove your current version and downgrade to version 6.6.0.18. Make sure to save your serial key in a safe place for reinstallation before removing Nero or any other software.
Cleantool: http://ww2.nero.com/nero6/eng/Nero_6_CleanTool.html
6.6.0.18: http://httpdl2.usw.nero.com/Nero-6.6.0.18.exe
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CdRomPeripheral : AXV CD/DVD-ROM 2.2a a347scsi Port 2 ID 0 DMA: Off
This shouldn't have anything to do with your burning problem, but it is a good idea to go ahead and take care of it now. DMA should be on for all drives, enable via this guide: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/260038
Everything else seems to be in order, nothing terribly wrong with the rest of your log, but the prodisc Sony's may be a little dodgy...maybe try some verbatims(made in taiwan) or Sony, Fuji, Maxell, Taiyo Yuden (made in Japan).
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 12. April 2006 @ 05:18
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