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Ripping Speed with new DVD Decrypter
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sirmugen
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7. January 2005 @ 20:26 |
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Is anyone having ripping speed problem with new DVD Decrypter v3.5.2.0. I use to be able to rip at 2X and now its only ripping at 1.6x - 1.7x... It is also taking alot of system resource, I use to be able to run DVD Decrypter and DVD2One at the same time. Now if I do that, DVD2One take about 210min for full compression when it use to take 20min. This started happening since I upgraded DVD Decrypter to new version.
Can anyone help me
sirmugen
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dek74
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8. January 2005 @ 11:50 |
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yep, i see the same thing. terribly slow compared to ripping at 10x. i'm going back to the older verion.
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Pontistv
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28. January 2005 @ 19:14 |
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Hey, I am having the same thing and after about 200 movies and tons of upgrades and testing on my computer, Im sure the problem must be Decrypter. I had everything else scienced out bigtime. Im going back to the last version if this isn't fixed with a new one. I'll post my results later.
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bazilla
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29. January 2005 @ 01:44 |
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Is this just with ripping, or have you seen a slowdown in burning? Have you checked your DMA setting lately?
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LostDude
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29. January 2005 @ 02:54 |
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Ripping speeds I've encountered with my laptop varies with each dvd which is very low, about 1.6x. PS2 games, on the other hand give me full ripping speed. Any theories? System is Compaq Presario 2560AI with Sony DVD+RW DW-P50A.
My Desktop doesn't have any problems.
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bassnut
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29. January 2005 @ 03:21 |
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DVD Decrytor takes a little longer to rip your movie because it has to deal with the new encrytion that the movie industry is using now on the disks. If you go back to the older version then you will have problems with the new movies that use bad sectors as part of their copywrite Protection.
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laddyboy
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29. January 2005 @ 10:28 |
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This may help speed up DVD Decrypter ripping in some cases, not all. Go to: Tools - Settings - I/O - Options - Check "Set Read Speed" - Read Speed set to "Max"
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Pontistv
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29. January 2005 @ 16:14 |
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The only speed problem I have had is with ripping since upgrading to the new version. I tried checking the set speed box, which highlights "MAX". Then I leave it at max. Believe it or not, this made an immediate and large difference. You guys try it and let me know if it worked for you too. I assumed that because it already said MAX (unhighlighted) that I didn't need to play with that setting. I was wrong. Went from starting at 2X to starting at 5X. However, this was after I switched back to 3.5.1.0. Now I wish I had tried that with 3.5.2.0! Maybe it wouldn't have been so slow.
Burning speeds were never affected. I triple checked my DMA. It's fine. I know dual layer movies, some more than others, are much slower than the cheapy single layer movies. But I used to average 12 minutes on dual layer and it went to 20 with 3.5.2.0. Now that I switched back, Im back to 12 average again. Someone please try clicking the set speed box and leaving it at MAX and let me know if it speeds up your (exact same) movie!
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sirmugen
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29. January 2005 @ 21:09 |
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I did laddyboy's suggestion and it went up to 1.8X but not to the norm of what I had it before of 2X.
For some reason, I went back to the older Decrypter and still same 1.8X
Oh well, I'm using shrink for now with my new DVD ROM that doesn't work with Decrypter and it rips and compress at the same time in 30 min. I'll only use Decrypter with discs that error out with Shrink on my burning drive.
Thanks guys for all your help
sirmugen
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Pontistv
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30. January 2005 @ 20:13 |
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Sirmugen,
You shouldn't be limited to 2X, and especially less. Look for a thread called High Tech Discussion on Slow Ripping Speeds. We talked about a lot of stuff in there that may help you. In short, I would check DMA in your controller properties, check DMA in your BIOS (if its in there), and be aware of the fact that most drive manufacturers go along with the movie industrys request to lock protected rips at 2X (to aggrevate rippers). My Plextor drive does not lock, but many do. Especially burners, but not so much with roms it seems. Try ripping something that's not protected and see if your rip speeds go up. If they do, you're fighting the 2X lock from the factory. That's easy to cure too. Just find hacked firmware for your drive. A search on the net should find some. Usually drives that run at almost exactly 2X suffer from that. Drives that are slow, but exceed 2X are more likely to be a DMA problem. Make sure you aren't using a drive on the same channel of the controller at the same time as youre ripping, or the controller will bounce between the two drives (ie don't rip and burn at the same time, if using the same controller for both drives). I am able to, because I bought a PCI IDE controller and run my rom off of it, leaving the secondary channel of the mobo to the burner alone. This is the ONLY way to 'copy on the fly' or rip and burn at the same time, without bad consequences. Hope this helps. Check out that thread!
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sirmugen
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30. January 2005 @ 20:21 |
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Pontistv
My drive is 2 and a half years old, I was burning DVD when there was no DVD2One and Shrink, you had to just take the movie only or spilt it into 2 disc. My drive has always ripped at 2X, that is what the specs says and yes I did check DMA. Its just after the install of the latest Decrypter, it has slowed down to 1.7X and when I checked the preference of Decrypter to read MAX, it went up a whooping 1.8X. I guess I'll just live with it for now, until Dual Layer Disc becomes cheaper and I can buy a new burner.
Thanks again Pontistv
sirmugen
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Pontistv
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30. January 2005 @ 20:47 |
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Sirmugen,
Is your drive only rated to read at 2X? I figured even old drives read faster than that. If you won't part with the hundred bucks it takes to buy a new Plextor 16X DL burner (my recommendation), or you're happy with the burning speed of your drive (just not the read speed), then my other suggestion is spend $30 on a rom. I tried several different roms and cd burner/dvd rom combos, as well as my Plextor 12X drive and the second fastest ripper of all of them was my Liteon 16X dvd-rom. SOHD-167T I think is the part number. New egg, $30. The liteons are cheaper drives, but they are fast and there's plenty of hacked firmware out there. It actually ripped one of my disks (w/ decrypter) at 16.6X peak speed once on a single layer movie. Its actually faster on single layers than my Plextor in ripping, but the Plextor owns all of them on dual layer ripping. It also has been coaster free for over 200 movies. Great drive. Hope this helps.
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sirmugen
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30. January 2005 @ 20:53 |
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Pontistv
That is what I did, I bought a ROM that rips faster, only problem is that it doesn't work with Decrypter:(, Shrink seems to be fine, I ask the Lighting UK (author of Decrypter) and he said that my particular ROM, doesn't work well with Decrypter.
So right now, most movies rips fine with Shrink, only the new protected movies will be riped with my burner and Decrypter.
sirmugen
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Pontistv
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31. January 2005 @ 23:29 |
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Seems strange that a particular brand doesn't work well with software... but he would know. I say put the money into a good burner, since its the most out-of-date hardware in the group. What brand rom do you have?
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sirmugen
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1. February 2005 @ 04:35 |
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Yeah, going to buy a dual layer burner later, but for now.... its ok.
I bought a Sony DVD-ROM DDU1621
sirmugen
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LostDude
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2. February 2005 @ 02:09 |
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Quote:
I bought a Sony DVD-ROM DDU1621
<-- There goes your problem right there.
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sirmugen
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2. February 2005 @ 08:06 |
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LostDude
I realize that now, but the deal was cheap, oh well live and learn.
sirmugen
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TaylorSPL
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5. February 2005 @ 13:31 |
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Changing it to MAX sped it up to 16x on DVD-5 but on DVD-9 it still only reads at 8x. Is this normal for DVD-9?
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ScubaBud
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5. February 2005 @ 13:43 |
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I believe it flows this way:
Tools
Settings
I/O
Device
(In Options Select) "Set Read Speed"
Read Speed "Max"
OK
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LIGHT_UK
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6. February 2005 @ 12:04 |
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Just uninstall your IDE ATA Controller in device manager and reboot. (Notice I said Controller and not Channel(s) - remember to uninstall the Controller!!!)
XP will drop your drive into PIO mode when reading lots of errors in a row. Nothing I can do about it, sorry! It will also probably still say it's using DMA mode if you look at it, but trust me, it isn't!
The above will fix it and put you back in DMA mode again.
The program would never be released with a speed decrease issue such as that between versions. We do test it a fair bit you know ;)
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Pontistv
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6. February 2005 @ 19:41 |
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Light UK,
I uninstalled the latest version and reinstalled the second latest to regain some lost speed. After the older install, it still read slow. I checked the set speed box (which was not highlighted) and left it set at max. It seemed to speed up. Is this relevant??
Or would it have sped up with the latest version if I had checked that box? Or is it just plain slower due to new copy protection programming?
Great software. A million thanks.
Pontisteve
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6. February 2005 @ 21:52 |
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Problem:
You're ripping at slow speeds. 'Slow' typically being no more than 2x.
Answer:
Well, it could be a couple of things....
1. Your drive just doesnt read CSS protected media any quicker than that - Note: This applies to almost all DVD burners.
2. You dont have DMA enabled on the drive / IDE channel.
To check your DMA settings, go into Device Manager and look in the IDE Controllers branch. If you bring up the properties box on each of the channels (Primary and Secondary) you should see a tab where it lets you change between PIO and DMA mode.
The above applies to Windows 2000, XP etc. On a Windows 9x machine, you'll need to look at the properties for the drive itself under the 'CDROM Drives' branch. You should see a 'DMA' checkbox in there somewhere!
This 'slow reading' problem is nothing to do with the program - I promise! It will read as fast as your hardware will let it.
You might also like to read this Microsoft Knowledge Base Article:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=817472
Important:
Windows XP will often get confused and report that a drive IS running in DMA mode when in reality, it's not. To fix this, Uninstall the IDE/ATA Controller (NOT the Channels!!!) from under the IDE ATA/ATAPI Controllers branch (again in Device Manager) and reboot your PC. Windows will 'find' it again when it boots back up. DMA will be enabled by default.
You should also check that DMA is enabled and active within the system BIOS screen. That's the screen you access by pressing DEL, F2 etc when the machine first boots up. You normally have to enable it for each device connected to the IDE bus - it's not a single setting to enable / disable it.
Setting it to 'Auto' is the best bet - rather than DMA 5, 4... 1, PIO 4, 3...1 etc.
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Problem:
My Plextor DVD Writer wont read above 2x and I've already checked the DMA settings.
Answer:
Plextor DVD Writers are locked to 2x when reading CSS protected discs.
You can enable the 'SpeedRead' feature by performing the following short procedure:
1. Remove any discs from the drive and close the tray.
2. Press and hold the eject button (for approx 3 seconds) until the green light flashes (it will do this 3 times).
3. Release the eject button to eject the tray.
4. Insert your disc and close the tray.
If you do it right, you'll be able to rip at proper speeds.
Please note, you must do this for EVERY disc you want to rip at full speed.
Update:
Newer versions of DVD Decrypter will automatically enable 'SpeedRead' on Plextor DVD Writers when you start ripping the disc. Just ensure that if you own a PX-708A, you have the most up-to-date firmware installed on the drive. This is important because older versions have a bug in them that stop this from working.
Nothing here to see, move along folks.
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Pontistv
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7. February 2005 @ 18:01 |
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Rotary,
My Plextor PX-712A is definitely not locked at 2X on ripping CSS protected discs. Perhaps this may apply to older drives. I don't know about them. But my 12X is the fastest ripper I have tried yet, especially on dual layer rips. Peak ripping times are anywhere from 7X - 16X, usually on the higher side of that equation.
Also it's noteworthy that some BIOS's do not have settings for PIO/DMA, but some do. My ASUS for example does not.
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LIGHT_UK
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8. February 2005 @ 00:09 |
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Actually, it is locked to 2x - unless a program enables the SpeedRead function where it will then reach the higher speeds. Even the new 716 is the same.
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ScubaBud
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8. February 2005 @ 01:41 |
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