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DOOM 3 + OTHER APPS WITH A NEW CARD?
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bklyn1028
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20. January 2005 @ 08:43 |
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nephilim allready helped with this, meaning i should upgrade my ge force mx440 to at least a radeon 9800 pro, i debated with myself as to whether it was worth it, now i have come to the conclusion that it is.....doom 3 is getting sketchier, now hardly moves, so i have to get a new card, my question is,,,...which one,,,,nvidia....ati....and is the card for just doom3,,,or will it increase the overall value of the system, have a pent 4 2.4 gig...just upgraded to 1gb of mem...
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20. January 2005 @ 10:07 |
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What motherboard have u got?, will it support 8X AGP?
System 1 :- Main PC: AMD XP 3200+ - OC Slightly 2.31Ghz, 1024 MB DDR PC2700, 1 x 40GB Hard Drive, 1 x 60GB Hard Drive, ATI 9600XT (256 MB)Graphics Card.
Laptop 1: 1GB DDR2 Ram, 100Gb Samsung HDD, ATI X700 128mb Graphics Card.
System 2: Downloading PC: AMD Sempron 2500+, 512 MB DDR PC2700, 1 x 40GB Hard Drive.
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20. January 2005 @ 12:13 |
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I honestly don't notice any difference at all in running in 8x and 4x with my 9700 Pro. I remember everyone made a big deal out of it, just like they're doing with PCI-E. With my 9700 Pro running in 8x instead of 4x gives me probably 50 more points to my 3dmark2001SE scores and the fps increase is probably 5 at most. I know this probably isn't the case with everyone, but I know that it's hardly noticeable to me.
I'd get the 9800 Pro, I have a 9700 Pro and I run doom 3 on medium graphics settings perfectly fine. I did have a bit of skipping however, due to my memory. But you have 1GB so you should be fine.
I'd say, generally anything above the 9600 series for ATI and the 5700 series for Nvidia will play Doom 3 without any hiccups. I'm sure some people out there are playing it on 9200s and 5200s though, but I doubt as smoothly.
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bklyn1028
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20. January 2005 @ 13:20 |
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all i know is it's a gateway system, with 4x agp, 160 power supply, according to ati site, the 9800 pro needs min...300 power supply, so,,,now am thinking of getting a new mobo....amd maybe..just don't know....is it worth it to upgrade to a amd athlon xp, new mobo...the 9800 pro....any ideas?
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bklyn1028
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20. January 2005 @ 13:23 |
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the expense could get out of hand,,,,,of course there would have to be a new case....this is getting nuts, probably looking at a grand...for a freakin game?.....lol
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20. January 2005 @ 18:43 |
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Yeah, 160 watt is not even close to strong enough. i have a 300 watt sparkle and I have trouble keeping my rails stable.
Just grab a bigger PSU. I think newegg has a thermaltake 460watt right now for $36 on the main page. It may not be the best of PSUs, but it will do ok for you I'd say.
What other hardware are you running? CD-Roms, DVD-burners, extra HDDs, etc...?
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20. January 2005 @ 19:17 |
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did you get the latest Catalyst driver?
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Divinus
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20. January 2005 @ 19:21 |
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Me? lol, I don't think he has the 9800 yet. Believe he was debating on whether to buy it or not.
I haven't gotten any new drivers for anything since right now I'm stuck with dial-up. It would take 2 to 3,000 years (estimated) for me to download anything that big.
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20. January 2005 @ 19:22 |
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Quote:
It would take 2 to 3,000 years (estimated) for me to download anything that big.
lol ... do it over night.
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Divinus
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20. January 2005 @ 19:30 |
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lmao, yeah... it's not that bad honestly. I think the drivers are around 30MB and that takes me like... 4 hours or so.
Is there a new performance jump or something with the new catalyst??
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20. January 2005 @ 20:05 |
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Yea 28mb. I had problems when I played doom 3. Game would freeze up and would barely move. Newest driver fixed all that.
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bklyn1028
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21. January 2005 @ 08:55 |
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have a pent 4 2.4.....512 mb ram...sony 710a burner...geforce mmx 440 128 mb...doom 3 is in slo mo right now, and when i try to edit converted vhs tapes to dvd..the system locks, so i have decided to do this
gigabyte mobo...$229...amd athlon 64 3200...$199...new case....4 fans...5.1 speakers...radeon x800...$400 and change....total is about 1400 when i am done...also...2 gig of ram...but this should be good for what...about 3 months?...lol....i would love your opinion if i am doing the right thing...gonna keep the existing hd..also just got a new 120 gb ext hd...just doing a new mobo..chip..etc...gonna give what is left to my kid who needs something other than what she has..
be honest now....
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ddp
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21. January 2005 @ 09:15 |
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whats the matter with current case??
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bklyn1028
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21. January 2005 @ 09:38 |
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nothing...gonna give it to my kid,,who has a dell...pent III....1000mhz...128 mg of ram...and she can't do anything in today's market...
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21. January 2005 @ 21:36 |
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Damn, that's probably gonna be a killer PC, bklyn. It'll be good into next year I'd wager. I built mine about a year ago and I can play HL2 and Doom 3 fine. Got a few skips because of low memory, but other than that, nothing. I'm going to build an A64 system right before longhorn comes out.
To flip, I never had any problems playing Doom 3 with the old catalyst. Although I've never gotten passed the friggin guy that guards the soul cube. I swear I shoot the little fuckers that tell him where you are, and then I unload on his ass with the BFG, but I must've shot him 30 times and even more with the rocket launcher, etc... He still never dies! I gave up a while back.
Game is too damn scary for me, lol. Play it in the dark, sound turned up... can be worse than almost any movie. Only bad thing is the game continually does it to you so eventually you just get acustomed to it.
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bklyn1028
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23. January 2005 @ 06:45 |
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now i'm reading that if i really want the full pleasure of the radeon x800 i should go back to a crt monitor????????
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ddp
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23. January 2005 @ 06:50 |
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goto a store to actually see the performance differences between a crt & lcd with hopefully a x800 or compatible video card. let your eyes do the seeing
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bklyn1028
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23. January 2005 @ 06:54 |
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that's tough to do...with making all things equal, i have both here in the house, will just do my own experimenting..just hate lugging that old sucker around from one room to another...lol
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bklyn1028
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23. January 2005 @ 06:55 |
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ps
thanx for answering:-)
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ddp
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23. January 2005 @ 06:58 |
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i have a 20" sun microsystems crt so i know about heavy
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23. January 2005 @ 12:15 |
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lmao, same here ddp. I have an old compaq qvision 210... sucker must weigh 150lbs.
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ddp
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23. January 2005 @ 13:36 |
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heavy & awkward carrying up a flight of stairs. my computer room/workshop is on the second floor of our house
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bklyn1028
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24. January 2005 @ 07:09 |
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then there goes your desk space also...hey another question...this is a gigabyte mobo...pci express..has 4 slots 184 pin memory...ddr....1 gig or 2...1 gig bar...or 2 512.....or..........2 gig bars....or 4 512?
i love picking your brains....mine is completely void of picking....lol
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ddp
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24. January 2005 @ 10:47 |
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desk is big enough as used to be an office desk, wooden that i had to take apart in 4 peices to bring up the stairs. go with 2 512 or whatever your wallet agrees to
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bklyn1028
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24. January 2005 @ 14:58 |
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i went with the twin 512 ddr...here's what i got
Gigabyte GA-K8NXP-SLI nForce4 SLI Athlon64/(FX) Skt939 DDR ATX Motherboard w/Audio, Dual Gigabit LAN, RAID/Serial ATA II Retail ***Free 2nd Day***
pci express 16
AMD Athlon 64 3500+ Processor Socket 939 Retail ***Free 2nd Day***
MSI RX800PRO-TD256E Radeon X800 Pro PCI Express 256MB DDR Video Card w/TV-Out & DVI Retail
Crucial Technology CT6464Z40B 512MB DDR400 PC3200 Memory
IBM Hitachi Deskstar 7K250 120GB Serial ATA 7200RPM Hard Drive w/8MB Buffer
a diablo tek cool case...lol..lights up..gotta impress my daughter's b/f....lol...4 fans...550 watt pwr supply....all i need to know now is how to put it all together....lol
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