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The (new) Official PC building thread!
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4. January 2008 @ 20:30 |
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He_Man, lol, good one, I like that. yeah my son is gonna try the security part of computers, corporate security to be exact, securing all the networks etc, things like that, its a difficult learn, I did some checking on it, but beleive it or not, of course communication is number one in everything we do, but being deaf doing this security stuff really doesnt require as much verbal speech as one might think, building and reparing them does, cause you need to deal with the public heavily when it comes to that.
But regardless whichever, I just try and tell him to do better than his hearing counterparts, if a boss needed to chose between the two, its a no brainer who he would pick, unless your extremely good at what you do.
But yes, building is not gonna be his top gig, but at RIT they want you to learn it all no matter what part of the computer field you finally pick, but I'm with you, if I was young again, I would love to learn about the builds, what makes them run and to solve thier problems, its a challange to me, especially cause I'm stupid at it and I keep rufusing to let it beat me, don't forget I didnt grow up in this tech world, just an old retired and tired construction worker, I've said it before, I can build you a house with my eye's closed, and as I use in baseball terms, when it comes to a little old computer, I haven't even reached first base yet. But I wont give in.
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4. January 2008 @ 20:40 |
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Think like....... building a PC is like a house. You need windows, doors, bricks, concrete all working together to keep the house stable and reliable. Currently at my school im on a computing course(aswell as contending with geography, business management, maths and english)
They go into some detail but really not what i want. A good example of this was last topic before Christmas. Basically what the network area consisted of was knowing what a router, hub and switch is. I actually basically teached that part of the course to class..........damn teacher did not even know what the crossover cable was for.
I do get the occasional person walking upto me in school asking me to help fix a technical problem.
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4. January 2008 @ 20:48 |
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he-man are you in high school or colledge.
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4. January 2008 @ 20:52 |
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Originally posted by FredBun:
Hey there greenman, whats up big guy, I did check out your link, I am looking at all options, I'll tell you whats wierd, the link you gave me, its a 1.86ghz, plus it costs more than the intel model that has a 2.8, everything else between the two seems the same, also mentioned it can be overclocked, gm I bust out laughing, I'm lucky if I can succefully click in a ram, I know, just pulling legs, I know putting together the hardware might not to all that difficult, but when it comes to that configuration stuff, its bye bye for me.
I understand Fred, I haven't done much OC'ing either. lol. I found this comparison and I'm sure there are better ones with more details but at least it's something. ;) link
The E6300 will run cooler and again should OC better than the D 820, plus it will use less power because the E6300 runs at 65nm while the D 820 runs at 90nm. ;) I'm a little vague with this stuff so please forgive the "crude" explanations.
There's many options as you can see. ;) A starter kit so to say, refurbished, choose your own components and so on. ;) Just don't be afraid to do your build when you decide to. Your son will know how I guarantee it when the time comes. :D
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4. January 2008 @ 20:53 |
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This calls for a profile!
Name - Greg Innes
Age - 16
Location - Scotland, Edinburgh
Interest - Alot
Occupation - Lazy arse = Studying at High School
Will be going to Uni/College in 2-3 years. I need to stay on for an extra year to get Maths and English at a "Higher" level. On that year though im doing an "Advanced Higher" Computing course which is basically 1st yeat at Uni but at school.
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4. January 2008 @ 21:11 |
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gotcha greenman, now I'm starting to see why the goofy difference in prices, cause as it looks like your getting less, when you know where to look deeper you find out you might be getting more, cool.
He-Man, good for you young man. you go for it, hell I though you were a lot older than 16, and thats a compliment, and a Brit at that, oops Scotsman sorry lol, I was in England, Peterborough, last June and part of July, went to see my Uncle who is 86 but still kicking, his friends also took me thru Edinburgh one weekend, I had a great time in England, but man did the place change, the last time I was there was in 66, I think I would freak you out if I told you the difference between now and than.
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4. January 2008 @ 21:11 |
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FredBun,
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theone, I also checked out your link, it seemed really cool till I read some of the ratings
That's precisely why I said in all fairness. I wouldn't recommend something like that in about 99% of cases but was just considering your immediate needs for communications purposes. aside from the CPU and the IDE drive, it's pretty much a disposable item! LOL!! It would probably do for your communication needs, but not a lot more. I certainly wouldn't recommend it otherwise.
Best Regards,
theone
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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4. January 2008 @ 21:18 |
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theonejrs, in no way am I or would I complain, you guys take your time to educate and I ain't complaining, any advise I get from any of you, great, good, or bad, I'm here to learn and listen, be thankfull and complain about nothing.
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4. January 2008 @ 21:20 |
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Originally posted by FredBun:
any advise I get from any of you, great, good, or bad, I'm here to learn and listen, be thankfull and complain about nothing.
:)
These guys are the real masters when it comes to this stuff(or anything) They are gods!
*hopes he has done enough to please onejrs, greensman, REAM and...........yeah go on sam aswell*
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4. January 2008 @ 21:23 |
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lol, I agree he-man
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4. January 2008 @ 21:25 |
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Originally posted by FredBun:
lol, I agree he-man
Oh please, Greg will be fine. ;)
I don't really like nicknames. Addressing the person by name seems much better. :)
Ill end all my posts with my name from now on,
Kind regards
Greg
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4. January 2008 @ 21:32 |
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you got it Greg
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4. January 2008 @ 21:33 |
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Originally posted by FredBun:
you got it Greg
:)
Well anyway, it's 2:33am here so i better be off to bed. See you tommorow.
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4. January 2008 @ 22:02 |
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FredBun---Just to add my 2 cents, those bare bones deals are really good ways to expose yourself to DIY. The ONLY benefit of purchasing one of those refurbished machines is the fact they already have an OS (Windows) and thats the most expensive factor in a truly budget home build to compete with those prices. If you already have a Windows disc, you have no reasons not to!
One of my teenage stepsons (the other is an intentional ass cause I'm not his real Dad even though real one hasnt attempted to visit or support him at anything in years even though he's living one town over but I digress) the one really seemed to like helping build a machine and I'll invite him to help when I do my next one in a month or so.
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4. January 2008 @ 22:17 |
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Deadrum33, you know thats a question I havent asked, I mean if I was to build which I will in the summer, how does one optain e.g. xp, I really dont know where you can even get a new one from anywhere, I do see adds e.g. on craigslist, people sell thier used OS disc's etc. but arent those for particular computers not ones, am I making any sense here?
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4. January 2008 @ 23:01 |
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FredBun,
Many computers come with recovery discs, especially laptops which restore the computer back to it's original OS and software included configurations. Dell used to ship their home computers with a copy of XP Home, but it would only work on Dell computers, where it didn't require a key number. It seems XP-Professional SP2 will be around for at least another year, as they just released SP3 on Dec 17th and vista has too many problems at the moment. SP3 is free from Micro$oft as long as your XP is validated.
The best price is for an OEM version, which is just the disc with SP2 integrated into it for $133. I installed it on the 20th and I like it! http://www.trustprice.com/Microsoft_OEM_...-id-596374.html
E-Bay also lists XP-Pro, but I don't know that much about buying on E-Bay.
Best Regards,
theone
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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4. January 2008 @ 23:21 |
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5. January 2008 @ 00:28 |
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Remember you said you can't build a good PC under 500? This is better than all those piece of crap Gateways. I added in SATA DVD burner and harddrive. It also has a video card and good RAM for overclocking. Add in that very good PSU and CPU cooler and you have a VERY good deal! After rebates it comes out to 461!
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5. January 2008 @ 00:31 |
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abuzar1,
The link provided doesn't work!
Russ
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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5. January 2008 @ 00:39 |
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your right it doesnt work, give us one that does please, I got to see this.
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5. January 2008 @ 00:40 |
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There is no link there. It's just an image...
Can you not see it? I think I've found some pretty good deals. It would such if you cant see this.
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5. January 2008 @ 00:43 |
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got it, thanks, tried to paste the damn things to check out further details, wont let me.
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5. January 2008 @ 00:44 |
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Now add the price of an OS. Price jumps dramatically.
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5. January 2008 @ 00:51 |
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Abuzar1,
Good selection. The only thing I would do differently would be to change the motherboard to a GigaByte GA-P35-DS3L and spend $30 more. Still keeps you under $500! Much better board with the P35 chipset and has 6 stage power regulation. Only difference between it and my motherboard is it lacks the Ultra Durable, has a smaller Northbridge cooler and only has 4 Sata ports, instead of 8! No Raid!
FredBum,
Save it as an image! LOL!! It's a .jpg!
Best Regards,
Russ
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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5. January 2008 @ 01:11 |
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NOT bad boozer!! There's a couple of things that I would "change" but the general idea is there!! A C2D computer (tower only of course) for under $500 after MIR!!! Nice.........
.....gm
btw if you did some "shopping" around you prolly could save some money there too. PIA I know but money is money I say.....
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