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7. October 2007 @ 02:35 |
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tinytom,
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Ive got the G0 stepping quad, so its cooler and reported to hit 4ghz.......?
Not according to Tom's Hardware. Just about every review says the same thing. 3.2GHz is about average! Unless you are doing huge amounts of encoding, stay with the E6600. It's not worth the money for what amounts to a minimal amount of difference in the amount of work it can do. I'd like to know where it's reported that someone hit 4.0GHz with it, because I can't find anyone on the net who has come close to that. Maybe some bench racer, but none of the reviewers report results any where near 4.0! I tend to take Tom's Hardware at their word!
Clock On,
theone :>)
PS, I've never heard of G0 stepping before!
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7. October 2007 @ 02:44 |
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Im building the PC to help ramp my folding club up the tables and learn how to OC, the whole PC build has been an education for me and its been great!
Ive got the quad now, just trying to decide on a new mobo or not before doing anything else.
Ive got a kick ass water set up to keep things cool and spent ages getting my case ready so hopefully should get good temps and clocks?
Dont like the idea of my CPU running 1.66v though? I thought over 1.5 was bad!?
And reading that review of 3.8ghz using 639w means a new 1000w power supply I think!?
Asus Comando mobo, Q6600 G0, 2gig Corsair Dominator PC8500 1066mhz, Nvidia 7600GS sonic 256mb, Modded-Thermaltake Bach VX with custom fan and air tunnel, 750w thermaltake modular PSU, 37gb Rapter, 3x baracuda 500gig, 1x baracuda 750gig, 22" Asus MW221u w/s, Creative S750 Gigaworks 7.1 surround
2x Laing DDC Ultras with custom tops, 2xBlack Ice GT 360mm Rads with 6x Xilence120mm fans, D-tek fuzion CPU block, EK nb/sb/gpu and both sets of mosfets water blocks, 2x 250ml reservoirss, full 1/2" tubing set up.
Watercooled Xbox360 too......!
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7. October 2007 @ 02:57 |
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tinytom,
Your best bet to hit 4GHz is gonna be the E6750/6850. I have 2 there already but they do need the 1.52v and have tested stable to 1.6o if need be but start to get hot at load. Also the mobo you got then is getting older by the day so get your clock on, or go P35.
Honestly, if you're looking to OC higher, look into new X38 solutions. The P965 chipset will hold you back a tad to a good P35 or especially a nice . I'm looking into the Gigabyte X38-DQ6 myself but will settle with the P35-DQ6 for now. I'm waiting on a GO rev of the Q6700 so I shell let you know how close to 4GHz they can get. I'm gonna guess not as far as the E6850 wich hits 4.1GHz on air or FSB's to 550+ (mobo providing). I never got any of my E6600's to stable over 498FSB on any P965. Best was 495 stable on P5B Deluxe and P5WG2-WS to 499. This 965P-DQ6 was good to 475FSB stable w a E6700 on it. The vid card you have is more then fine and wont effect the OC if done right. I hit 4GHz (D-840) 2 yrs bk w/ dual 6600GT's. w/ modded 66.75 on !955x as fake SLI (8x/4x).
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7. October 2007 @ 03:01 |
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tinytom,
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Dont like the idea of my CPU running 1.66v though? I thought over 1.5 was bad!?
The problem becomes an electronic one. the higher the voltage the easier it is for leakage to occur. Causes errors and if you keep pushing the voltage to compensate, Poof! Good Bye CPU! Think of it like water pipes springing a leak! I personally won't go over 1.4V myself!
I used to do folding but dust became a very big problem and I had to give it up. Too much build up, if left unattended would cause the computer to run too hot! I've run a couple of different computers at near 4.0GHz and heat was not a problem with a good cPU Cooler and good case ventilation. I even had the D-940 to 4.02GHz for a brief moment of insanity but I had to go over 1.4v to do it! Somewhere a little voice in my head was screaming "Idiot"! I ultimately lowered it to 3.71GHz where it ran fine. There wasn't enough difference in performance to warrant the very real possibility of blowing the CPU!
Clock On,
theone :>)
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7. October 2007 @ 03:29 |
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NuckNFuts,
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I'm waiting on a GO rev of the Q6700 so I shell let you know how close to 4GHz they can get.
So there is a G0 stepping! Must have missed the memo! LOL!!
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Your best bet to hit 4GHz is gonna be the E6750/6850. I have 2 there already but they do need the 1.52v and have tested stable to 1.6o if need be but start to get hot at load. Also the mobo you got then is getting older by the day so get your clock on, or go P35.
And to think, all I'm looking for is a nice everyday 3.6GHz with a 6750 on a P35 MB, and you have 2 running at 4.0! Just out of curiosity, how far could you get with 1.4v?
Best Regards,
theone :>)
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7. October 2007 @ 03:42 |
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A 4Ghz quad? Hmm, now they've become interesting again!
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7. October 2007 @ 04:00 |
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So those are the only differences? Just RAID and the P35 chipset? I don't RAID anyway since I have one HDD.
@Tom
What will you be doing with your PC?
EDIT: Figured it out. Man you guys post fast!
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7. October 2007 @ 04:02 |
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sammorris,
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A 4Ghz quad? Hmm, now they've become interesting again!
They will become interesting to me when there's enough apps to justify going that route. By then the price will have dropped a good bit!
Anandtech got theirs to 3510 and that was as far as they could go with the G0 stepping stable! This was on a P35-DQ6 MB! Of course, your mileage may vary (their comment)! You may get one that's faster but you may also get one that's slower! It's the luck of the draw! LOL!!
The wierd part is they achieved 3488MHz at 1.360v, while they achieved 3510MHz at 1.150v! They also have no idea why! LOL!!
Clock On,
theone :>)
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7. October 2007 @ 04:06 |
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abuzar1,
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So those are the only differences? Just RAID and the P35 chipset?
It's the same as the DS3 minus 2 Sata ports and it has the 888 sound chip! Even I'm getting excited at the prospect! LOL!!
Clock On,
theone :>)
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7. October 2007 @ 04:25 |
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Cool I probably will end up getting that then!
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7. October 2007 @ 05:21 |
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:-( Stop tempting me!
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7. October 2007 @ 06:26 |
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I see someone is still unhappy with their motherboard.
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7. October 2007 @ 06:41 |
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Not really, It just enables me to get a quad in the future, and in all honesty, I still can't think of a use for one. it's some extra RAM I'd like right now, I've been cutting it fine (2006MB used in FEAR:Extraction Point) recently...
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7. October 2007 @ 08:22 |
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Well I want to put it to the best use I can, no point spending loads on a pc build just to stare at it, its a project to see what it and I can do after all.
Im hoping to learn as much as poss from you guys when the nitty gritty starts too!
So do you think 750w PSU will be up to the job?
Asus Comando mobo, Q6600 G0, 2gig Corsair Dominator PC8500 1066mhz, Nvidia 7600GS sonic 256mb, Modded-Thermaltake Bach VX with custom fan and air tunnel, 750w thermaltake modular PSU, 37gb Rapter, 3x baracuda 500gig, 1x baracuda 750gig, 22" Asus MW221u w/s, Creative S750 Gigaworks 7.1 surround
2x Laing DDC Ultras with custom tops, 2xBlack Ice GT 360mm Rads with 6x Xilence120mm fans, D-tek fuzion CPU block, EK nb/sb/gpu and both sets of mosfets water blocks, 2x 250ml reservoirss, full 1/2" tubing set up.
Watercooled Xbox360 too......!
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7. October 2007 @ 08:42 |
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Any half-decent 750W PSU should be able to run any PC you can build.
On the watercooling parts front, have you had any problems with those Liang pumps? One of my friends has had several and they kept breaking so he changed it for a D-tek one. Also, he seems to think that BlackIce rads aren't that good, but I'm not a watercooling guru so I wouldn't know. What sort of temperatures do you get?
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7. October 2007 @ 13:43 |
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abuzar1,
Another nice feature I discovered about the GA-P35-DS3L is that there are 4 USB headers on the MB! If you have 2 front USB, that leaves an additional 6 for the rear that can go in an expansion slot (not the pci!) Those come in 4s and 2s, so nothing will be wasted and will give you a total of 12 USB ports. Nice!
I read an article on 8 P35 motherboards compared and the best overclockers were the DQ6 followed by the DS3. I confirmed with Gigabyte on Friday that all the GA-P35-DS3 series have the same overclocking capability and that the only difference between them is the sdditional features like the NB cooler, external Sata and Firewire plus an additional pair of Sata ports. The higher dollar ones also have Raid!
Here's the link! Interesting reading!
http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/06/19/e...ared/index.html
The MSIs and the Foxcon seem to suffer a lack of ability with the FSB at a x6 multiplier compared to the GigaBytes, Asus and the Abit IP35 Pro. The P35 also has DDR3 support. The lone P965 in the test, an Asus P5B-Deluxe WiFi-AP also did very well! I very much like the $90 GigaByte as it suits my needs. It may not have all the goodies of the more expensive boards, but since I don't need them and can get the same performance for a much lower cost, I think it's a winner!
Clock On,
theone :>)
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7. October 2007 @ 14:41 |
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Coo, I think if I can't manage to sell this PC I'll be upgradin a little at a time. I just sold my 7600 GT and bought a X 1900 GT!
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7. October 2007 @ 16:03 |
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Excellent stuff, and I'll bet you hardly ended up paying anything.
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7. October 2007 @ 19:38 |
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theonejrs,
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"So there is a G0 stepping! Must have missed the memo! LOL!!"
Actually, I've only had 2 and both "GO" for a Q6700 and Q6600 the same.
I came accross the GA-P35C-DS3R for the "S" series and will run some test on for feedback if interested. It already comes in close to compare with older 965P-DQ6 in the 400+FSB range but with much cooler mobo temps and thats w/o any Crazy-Cool. I did install a ThermalRight HR-05 heat-pipe chipset cooler and it is very responsive to power loading. It only climbs to 37c under Everest stress test and returns to 23c idle, 24c mild working load. however, these Gigabyte do not display CPU temp on top of core1/2 temps. just the cores. is this same for your DS3? And it is not lowering the vcore under idle either just like my ASUS P5K Premium and P5KC (this is the DDR3 unit like P35C-DS3R).
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ASUS RAMPAGE EXTREME (X48) w/ Q6600 @ 3.81GHz, 422x9 @ DDR1680 6-7-6-20 @ 1.71v
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7. October 2007 @ 19:39 |
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It only cost me 15 dollars more.
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7. October 2007 @ 19:51 |
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Single Drive, RAID Ready
A lot of you may not need raid in terms of back up security, but since this is an "overclocking" forum, I must mention the bennifit of a single disc on an AHCI/RAID controller, especially the Inetl integrated ICHR5/6/7/8/9/10's. I know, you gotta' dig out that old floppy, but it can add a bit of spunk to a OS and media editing drives, especially Photoshop, Premiere, and others. In most cases, like w/ Gigabyte, the difference of the "R" v/s non "R" (ie. P35-DS3/R) is usually only 20 - 30 USD's. A lot of you spend an extra 100+ USD to get an extra 50 - 75+ MHz of GPU or RAM on a GDDR2/3 graphics, so why not add some kick to your storage sub system. And for those, like myself using the old , but lovely 10k RPK Raptors, you're gonna' fel the difference even over a new 16mb buffered SATA-2 (SATA-300).
Gamers, load ISO images of games from a RAID 0 or RAID ready drive for quicker load times.
If you already have it , give it a go. It is tricky adding it to existing OS install, but can be done if you have 2 more SATA devices (CD/DVD is OK).
And That's What's Clockin' Like It!
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ASUS CROSSHAIR w/ x2 6400+
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7. October 2007 @ 19:55 |
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NuckNFuts,
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It only climbs to 37c under Everest stress test and returns to 23c idle, 24c mild working load. however, these Gigabyte do not display CPU temp on top of core1/2 temps. just the cores. is this same for your DS3?
I think this may be a problem with the MB and Everest or speedfan. I've had problems reading the last 2 Asus motherboards with speedfan and Sandra. The DS3s, both 965P and P35 display the CPU temp as well as both core temps with Everest! I've never used the software that comes with it as it's clumsy and doesn't show anything in the taskbar. You have to open it to see anything! I like the Ultimate Edition 2007 version of Everest as it shows just about anything I want in the taskbar! I'll have more answers for you when I am able to get the GA-P35-DS3L and get it up and running!
Best Regards,
Russ :>)
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7. October 2007 @ 20:14 |
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theonejrs,
These recent reading were with Everest and are for the "C" version of the P35-DS3 (GA-P35C-DS3R,the DDR3 /DDR2 model). And the 23c/37c temps are the mobo. I dont use SpeedFan, I never got anything different form it I can get form ASUS PC Probe or Everest. I nvere like how unclear it was to identify the given thermistors for wich fans and chips and such, and it fluxuated so much. Of corse it's been 4+ yrs since used it so maybe berret today.
And no, Everest isn't displaying any "CPU" temp, just cores 1/2. Although, still on F1 BIOS, so maybe they fixed, my older DQ^ is already on F6 i believe
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ASUS RAMPAGE II EXTREME(X58) w/ i7 930 DO @ 4.305GHz (205x21 @ 1.323v) 2:8 DDR1680 @ 6-6-6-18
ASUS RAMPAGE EXTREME (X48) w/ Q6600 @ 3.81GHz, 422x9 @ DDR1680 6-7-6-20 @ 1.71v
ASUS CROSSHAIR w/ x2 6400+
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7. October 2007 @ 20:48 |
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NuckNFuts,
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And no, Everest isn't displaying any "CPU" temp, just cores 1/2.
Perhaps Everest will require an upgrade so the controller chip can be seen by the software. Makes sense, as the motherboard and it's chipsset is completely new. It took an upgrade for it to read my 965P-DS3 properly, even though I installed the chipset drivers! Guess I'll find out when I get the new MB! Does the software that came with your MBs read it properly?
As far as Speedfan goes, I just didn't like it so I wasn't about to invest in the pay one. Sandra didn't matter as I have the pay one and it still won't read it! It just gives a message: "No environmental variables found"! It doesn't read the fan speeds either!
Best Regards,
Russ :>)
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7. October 2007 @ 21:52 |
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theonejrs, or any DS3R or DQ6 owner,
Where is the mobo rev. no located on these 2 mobos or how can I identify via windows app or match to box serial or tag? I believe the DQ6 is Rev. 1x cause of how long ago I got it, (bout early summer last yr) and it did show as bios ver F6 in CPU-z but rev is blanked out as usual. there site show is as needing F10 if rev 1 and the P35C-DS3R is either a rev1.x or 2.x and I mounted it already and cant see it but if I knew more or less where I can poke in w/ a probe light.
Thankx!
Trying to find it is drivin' me nuckin' futs!
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ASUS RAMPAGE II EXTREME(X58) w/ i7 930 DO @ 4.305GHz (205x21 @ 1.323v) 2:8 DDR1680 @ 6-6-6-18
ASUS RAMPAGE EXTREME (X48) w/ Q6600 @ 3.81GHz, 422x9 @ DDR1680 6-7-6-20 @ 1.71v
ASUS CROSSHAIR w/ x2 6400+
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