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Oh good, I killed my 6700
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Jake.
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14. March 2005 @ 15:46 |
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Jeez what a dumbass.
I've been having a lot of problems playing DivX movies on my Yamada 6700, the movies would go out of sync with the soundtrack if I paused it or used FF/RW. So I did a Google and found this site. From reading a few threads it seemed like a firmware update might be worth a shot. I downloaded a firmware from http://mtz.softpedia.com/index.php?option=com_weblinks&Itemid=4
burned it to CD and put it in the 6700
"Push PLAY to upgrade" it said, so I did.
Then it ejected the CD and displayed "LOADING" on the display. So I waited
.... and I waited
.... and I went and made a coffee
and I came back to find it still said "LOADING" on the display.
I'd read of other folks killing their players by not waiting but surely I'd left it long enough (or so I thought) So after a while I rebooted the player...
and now it's dead of course!
Did I do something wrong or is this Firmware Upgrade business a bit of a gamble?
Should I have left it 30mins or what? At what point do you give up waiting for the display to change from "LOADING" ?
I'm not keen to buy another Yamada 6700 if it has the same playback issues and the same problems updating the firmware.
Any advice from you guy that know about this stuff?
Thanks
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Jake.
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sarb2001
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15. March 2005 @ 07:26 |
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Sorry for your loss, I am not sure if this is the main cause, but always try to take a firmware ONLY from the OFFICIAL SITE of the producer.
Now you have to go with your player to some Service Center. I think it is the only way to solve this problem.
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ramarr
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25. March 2005 @ 11:58 |
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Jake you should have removed the cd from the tray after it got ejected. It's a necessary step to complete the firmware update process. By leaving the cd in the tray you just started the whole process all over again. Yes you killed your player but an expert can revive it back easily. Like sarb said take it to a Service Center. And about unofficial firmware for Yamada, well it often works way better than the oficial releases ;) Just check forums and reviews for feedback, before installing anything.
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Jake.
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25. March 2005 @ 14:54 |
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I did remove the CD before the tray went back into the machine.
I don't know of any Yamada service centres in the south of England. How can I find one of these experts who can easily revive my machine from a failed flashing?
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ramarr
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26. March 2005 @ 08:25 |
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Sorry can't help you finding an expert, I live in continental Europe. But failed flashing is a very common occurrance with Yamadas here and it's keeping slovenian servicers in business. ;-) Maybe you should check the official Umax/Yamada page and contact the distributor.
http://www.umax.co.uk/
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peterpan1
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30. March 2005 @ 00:47 |
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icp1
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30. March 2005 @ 12:56 |
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well this kid is a dumbass
avise: throw it away
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Jake.
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30. March 2005 @ 13:10 |
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ICP1
errr,
1, I'm not a kid, I'm 39!
2, I can spell the words "advice" and/or "advise", unlike you, you fuckwit.
3, It can be fixed if if I can get hold of the right cable to update the firmware.
so . . . .
4, FOAD
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30. March 2005 @ 16:38 |
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Jake,
No need to stoop to his/her level ... next time PM a mod.
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Jake.
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31. March 2005 @ 06:17 |
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Sorry Flip,
I was a bit disappointed to have an unhelpful reply like that one. I'm still hoping to get this 6700 fixed if I can obtain the right cable.
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simm1701
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27. April 2005 @ 10:32 |
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Just done the same thing here.
I'm not a novice with firmware flashing so happyly left it going expecting it to finally work ok. I had followed the steps, removed the cd after it was ejected, saw the screen go blank and loading displayed on the lcd.
After 30 min or so still nothing so I hard powered it off and oilla dead box.
Not impressed at all
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Jake.
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28. April 2005 @ 11:43 |
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Hi Simm,
I managed to fix mine in the end. I borrowed a modified phone cable from another guy who posted that he'd fixed his.
Drop me an email to Jake post your email address again and your gone and I'll give you the guy's email address. Maybe he'll lend you the cable too.
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28. April 2005 @ 15:34 |
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Jake. .... nice try ... but no posting emails :)
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appolospb
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13. May 2005 @ 12:22 |
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Jake
I did the same thing to my brand new Yamada 6700 (2 days old). I followed the instructions on Yamadas site to the letter yet still the update killed my player. I think the update process is defintely a gamble and isnt always caused by user error.
1. Inserted update disc
2. Pressed "play" to perform upgrade, message upgrading appeared
3. disc was ejected, i then removed the upgrade cd
4. player restarted itself automatically
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Voila, blank screen and dead player
My advice would be to anyone with a Yamada player:
DONT UPGRADE THE FIRMWARE!
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Jake.
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15. May 2005 @ 02:43 |
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Huh? What's the problem with me posting my own email address to help another poster? I don't understand why you'd have a problem with that. what's the deal?
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15. May 2005 @ 02:58 |
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Wam7
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21. July 2005 @ 08:45 |
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After reading this I purchased a 6700 and flashed it successfully to the New Age V3a firmware. Packed Bitstream files are now playing wonderfully like everything else. A lot of other major improvements over the V1 firmware that came with the player.
It is almost a necessity to upgrade the firmware on this player to get the most out of it. To do this without killing off your new player I recommend...
Reset to default settings
Burn to a fresh CD-R, with lowest possible burn speed, use Track-At-Once not Disc-At-Once & Finalize CD.
Use Nero CD/DVD-Speed Disc Quality check to make sure there are no errors at all on your CD.
This is the firmware I used. Dated 5th May 2005.
http://newage.mpeg4-players.info/yamada/6700/NAv3/custom/Yamada67...
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Wam7
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21. July 2005 @ 08:47 |
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After reading this I purchased a 6700 and flashed it successfully to the New Age V3a firmware. Packed Bitstream files are now playing wonderfully like everything else. A lot of other major improvements over the V1 firmware that came with the player.
It is almost a necessity to upgrade the firmware on this player to get the most out of it. To do this without killing off your new player I recommend...
Reset to default settings
Burn to a fresh CD-R, with lowest possible burn speed, use Track-At-Once not Disc-At-Once & Finalize CD.
Use Nero CD/DVD-Speed Disc Quality check to make sure there are no errors at all on your CD.
This is the firmware I used. Dated 5th May 2005.
http://newage.mpeg4-players.info/yamada/6700/NAv3/custom/Yamada67...
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damillz
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5. September 2005 @ 09:55 |
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Hi
I have downloaded the newage firmware and I understand it all except, what is the difference between "Type A" and "Type B". I can't find reference to it anywhere!
TIA
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Wam7
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5. September 2005 @ 11:03 |
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Cant check properly as on my SE P900 but IIRC type A can play PBS XviD files but has the NTSC bug. Type B is the opposite and has another fix I think. The info is there, cos that is where I found it!
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damillz
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7. September 2005 @ 04:07 |
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Yep, I found the info in the end and that was the difference. I personally found the whole firmware update process extremely simple
and am very glad I did it (the improvements make it well worthwhile).
I am very surprised that nobody has posted a pinout for the cable used to re-flash the unit. I found some site where somebody who clearly didn't understand what he was actually talking about says you have to mutilate a mobile phone cable. Why couldn't he buzz it through and let us make one?
Anyway, thanks for the info Wam, the yamada box is much better now
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peterpan1
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7. September 2005 @ 04:30 |
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damillz, did u do the update then?
I tried from Type A to Type B and it, understandably died.
I then tried from the original firmware v1 to Type B (as advised) and it died on me again... :(
Conclusion: Type B DOESNT work. Furthermore, I definetely considered myself experienced, uptil now :) I flashed the older model - 6600 - multiple times and never had any problems...
End result: sending one of them back, I just bought it, under warranty. The other one gona try, at some point, to make the neccessary cable...
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damillz
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7. September 2005 @ 11:39 |
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Yes, I used the type A, as I was packed bitstream and I don't care about the "NTSC bug" (or even know what it is!) since I live in England (PAL).
I just followed the following:
* Burn at 4x or lower
* Finalize the disc
* Use track-at-once
* Make sure you remove the disc when the tray is ejected
And it worked fine. I did notice that the ISO I downloaded had a large dummy file in. I remember I used to have to do that to knock up the TOC size when reflashing the old xbox. Don't know if that (or the lack of it) is causing some people issues. I still want to see a pin-out for this cable if anyone knows where to find it (or wants to buzz one through).
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Wam7
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7. September 2005 @ 11:58 |
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Glad it worked o.k for you damillz! :) For the V2 Newage firmware it does say to make sure that you flash from a player with the original V1 software and even gives you a link to it. It didn't say this for the V3 but I would still hold it to be true.
My player came with the official V1 so I didn't have to down flash it.
There's only one tiny problem that I have now and that is when you press the rewind once during an XviD file, instead of it rewinding at 2x it does it something like 16x. Forwarding is fine. Is this the same for you guys?
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micsten
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26. September 2005 @ 02:37 |
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I followed all instructions to update to the V3 unofficial update.
I had previously installed the V2 official firmware, so I down flashed it to version 1 just to make sure that there wouldn't be any conflicts.
Everything seemed to be going well, I successfully downflashed it to V1. I restarted the player and put the unofficial V3 Type A disc in that I had made inexactly the same way using the same ISO settings and speed as the official V1 that had just worked.
It seemed to upgrade ok. I got a Blue Screen with a nice image of the player on screen. but then.. nothing. The player locked up with 'Closed' written on lcd of player.
I eventually restarted it after waiting for about 30 mins. Now it gets stuck with 'Loading' in display of player. - i cannot get any buttons to work on player. Although blue screen with nice image is still there to taunt me!
Any hope i can salvage it. if not.. anyone recommend a really could xvid compatable player? - i have been looking at the Eltax DV-251 DivX DVD Player
[EDIT] I just sorted the problem. After turning the dvd player on, then just as it is 'booting' up, I kept clicking the open-tray button and hey presto, it opened tray and is now working with the update installed!! [/EDIT]
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