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The Official Graphics Card and PC gaming Thread
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CHEESEPIE
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29. August 2009 @ 22:45 |
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I've updated the drivers from the nvidia site already, that did fix some fps issues I had with a few other titles but as for the shadows it didnt change anything. Are there optional driver packs for nvidia cards or is the base pack of drivers for 9m series the only one that would help?
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30. August 2009 @ 00:11 |
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Nope I'm afraid that's as good as it gets then. I'm fairly sure the shadows are just like that on any system. It could possibly be an optimization made for mobile GPUs but I doubt it.
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30. August 2009 @ 06:42 |
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Yay actually ordered the Corsair :-)
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30. August 2009 @ 12:40 |
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Cheesepie: That's no bug, that's simply how games that aren't well coded look. Crap isn't it? Still, softer shadows is one of the things that games designers usually can't implement without massive hardware requirements.
Rich: I played Far Cry at 2560x1600 on my PCIe HD3870 and got about 55fps with the AA turned up (and remember how bad the HD3800 series is for AA), looked quite nice but showing its age, even then.
Originally posted by Rich:
I knew the mercs couldn't see me, cause I couldn't see them.
Originally posted by Keith:
Yay actually ordered the Corsair :-)
REALLY?
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harvrdguy
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30. August 2009 @ 22:56 |
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"REALLY!"
Haha. Good point Sam.
What I had meant to say, is that I was buried in foliage so thick I couldn't see a thing - I was just waiting for the red alarm to subside a bit - and I had just entered that position from a lot of other dense foliage twenty feet away. Also I was on the small hill overlooking the village at the beginning of Fort, so the mercs were below me, and I know damn well from tons of hours on that game that none of those mercs could see my red shirt - no way, no how.
Word!
Hahahaha!
FAR CRY AI SURPRISED ME!
The AI started doing random spraying in the game, which I verified later by watching them from a distance. I don't remember ever seeing that before, and it impressed me greatly, as it seemed much more realistic - much better than "Where'd he go!" or "Lost contact!" Duhhh!
The mercs always say "Let's flush him out!" and their definition of "flush him out" is about six guys all slowly approach from wide-open position, in the general direction of where they think you might be hiding, with nobody changing that strategy when buddies start dropping left and right. Hahahaha. Real life it ain't.
Real life would be "Let's flush him out!" meaning, "Let's spray and grenade all the local bushes" like I did a couple days ago with the BAR on three or four main tree and bush areas, in Road to Hill 30, killing both normally very deadly snipers (and no red crosshairs in the game to let you know you're hitting anything - that section has always been very difficult for me.)
BUT THEY'RE STILL MORONS
So that's why I say that the mercs essentially are idiots, and for the style of gameplay I prefer, I have to max the difficulty level to make the game half-way challenging. On the other hand, my relative, Miles, the Valve animator, plays everything on normal, and is not really that interested in spending that much time on any one game.
I think my style comes from when I first played Counter Strike about 5 years ago, and at the beginning I was completely raped. Real players who have been playing for a while are not Far Cry mercernaries. I couldn't get started without being instantly dead and having no idea who had killed me. It took quite a while to start surviving and making my own kills and winding up in the upper third of the team on many occasions. So from that I maybe developed a lot of patience for fine-tuning my strategies.
SOMETIMES STEALTH IS NOT BEST
But sometimes my patience runs out. At one point last night, I have to admit I was getting upset. It took me 8 restarts to complete a section on breaking into the science bunker, and the last three efforts I threw caution to the winds and abandoned stealth.
Early on I killed the sniper on the wall, with MY sniper rifle. I got the other guys coming down from left and the guys coming up from the right. I edged close to the main wall on far left and after five minutes I finally got the one more guy who appeared from time to time on top. Then I checked out the whole area with binoculars for mercs. Okay, safe. All this took about 20 minutes on my 5th attempt.
Then edging along the front of the bunker, all of a sudden an explosion and I am barely alive. WTF! And then frantically looking around to see whom I had missed, I just barely caught sight of a rocket heading my way from a way high tower about a quarter mile away at the other huge building. "A goddamn tower a hundred miles away!" I yelled at myself in disgust as the game went to Main Menu. "Goddamm it!"
I LOVE JEEP ROCKETS
So now, completely NOT in a mood for stealth, I restarted the section driving in, jumped out of the jeep to eliminate the sniper, jumped back in this time - and activated the jeep rockets, having suddenly realized that this jeep had both rockets and machine gun. Then, rocketing away on everybody, including that distant tower, including the guys on the left coming down from the big bunker, including the two teams of guys in the middle manning the blockage, including the big logs blocking the road - I had much quicker gratifying success!
It still took me three tries - the sniper got me while I was trying to get him with rockets instead of my sniper rifle - then the jeep got stuck on the sandbags. But no problem. Those two attempts were much faster and way more fun. The ragdoll bodies fly about 20 feet into the air when you hit close to a merc with a rocket, which always makes me laugh! So I was in a good mood for attempt three with the jeep, and everything worked fine.
I love shooting rockets! Things in Far Cry fly everywhere when they get hit! You have about 25 so you have plenty to inflict major damage in all directions, lol. Then, carefully crossing the bridge on foot, after binocular checking in all directions, I saw that beloved "Game Saved" checkpoint marker. Whew! An hour on just that one section!
(That reminds me of three years ago, when I spent over an hour - maybe two - to no avail trying to infiltrate a merc camp after gliding to the island. Patrol after patrol came out to get me, and the boat down below was hounding me at the same time. Finally, I changed strategies, and killed the boat guys with the colt on single shot mode. It has long-range power - about two thirds of the distance of the sniper rifle I would say. Then in the patrol boat, turning on the rockets, staying out beyond merc rifle range, I went all around that island, taking out towers, taking out patrols - in half an hour almost everybody on the island was dead! Hahaha.)
SILENCER
One last thing on Far Cry - the Silenced M5 SMG. When I saw the 6-man patrol outside the new mercenary camp that I discovered by staying on the glider, I decided to go back one section to the last part of fort where I had dropped the silenced M5 for the rocket launcher. Quickly taking out the two patrol boats with the rocket launcher allows one to return to the machine gun, and take out the two attacking helicopter if you time it right.
As for the silencer, in all the time I played Far Cry I never had much use for it, but when I saw all those patrol guys, and realized that the camp was going to be loaded with mercenaries, I decided to add in a little more stealth from a distance to my normal hiding in bushes techniques.
Normally I much prefer the P90 for larger capacity clip of 50 rounds, versus 30 - and conventional Far Cry wisdom is that there is no point carrying them both - they both draw from the same ammo pool. You want weapons that draw from a separate ammo pool so you can maximize your ammo. But I went back to do exactly that, carry them both, because you know what they say, "silenced is golden", lol.
With silenced smg in single-shot mode - zooming in - and trying to steady the mouse, if you can hit a distant guy with two quick shots to the head, it's all over for him, and the other 5 patrol guys have no clue where you are. You can often keep picking them off that way, and there is NO bang or muzzle flash to give away your position. The VERY LOUD sniper rifle on the other hand, is a one-shot kill of course, at great distances, but sniper rounds are hard to come by, so I decided to use them only in extreme cases - WAY distant tower guards with matching sniper rifles, or very well-hidden positions where the scope helped me to peer through bushes, etc.
I had never taken advantage of the silenced SMG that way before in all the months of former playing of Far Cry. I think my skills have improved, as Jeff said recently when he went back to experience some of Far Cry again.
I think I have learned a lot in some of the more-recent COD4 game play - and even from L4D where I have learned to FOCUS - and especially LISTEN, lol. (Not only for the SUPER IMPORTANT horde-is-coming music, but also for the menacing but often subtle growl of a waiting Tank.)
I kept the silencer as long as I could, dropping it only when the auto shotgun came along. A shotgun, of course, is indispensable for those god-awful ferocious and hard-to-kill trigent apes. My load-out after that was auto shottie, P90, AR, and sniper rifle.
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conb123
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31. August 2009 @ 10:58 |
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So heres the deal, i currently have an ATI Raedon X1950 Pro running from a 500w psu. I am thinking of upgrading to a Novatech GeForce 9800GT SLI 1GB. Is it worth the updgrade? Will it still run on my 500w psu? and will it run newish games, will it for instance run crysis on meium settings?
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31. August 2009 @ 11:16 |
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which PSU? what's your whole system?
what resolution monitor do you use?
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conb123
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31. August 2009 @ 11:20 |
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Sorry probably should have gave more info, i have a EZCool atx-500 super silent psu, my system is fairly up to scratch i think, i have a pentinum d dual core 3.00 ghz cpu, 4gb ram, foxconn 945g7ma-8ks2h notherboard.
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31. August 2009 @ 11:39 |
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MGR (Micro Gaming Rig) .|. Intel Q6600 @ 3.45GHz .|. Asus P35 P5K-E/WiFi .|. 4GB 1066MHz Geil Black Dragon RAM .|. Samsung F60 SSD .|. Corsair H50-1 Cooler .|. Sapphire 4870 512MB .|. Lian Li PC-A70B .|. Be Queit P7 Dark Power Pro 850W PSU .|. 24" 1920x1200 DGM (MVA Panel) .|. 24" 1920x1080 Dell (TN Panel) .|.
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conb123
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31. August 2009 @ 11:47 |
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Hmmm do you think, i am looking at the specs now and the differences don't look that great, i only have like £100 to spare so i would rather not have to get a new psu, it seems to be running pretty well, why is it so awful? I could probably stretch to this it has 5 star reviews and looks pretty good what do you think?
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31. August 2009 @ 11:55 |
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MGR (Micro Gaming Rig) .|. Intel Q6600 @ 3.45GHz .|. Asus P35 P5K-E/WiFi .|. 4GB 1066MHz Geil Black Dragon RAM .|. Samsung F60 SSD .|. Corsair H50-1 Cooler .|. Sapphire 4870 512MB .|. Lian Li PC-A70B .|. Be Queit P7 Dark Power Pro 850W PSU .|. 24" 1920x1200 DGM (MVA Panel) .|. 24" 1920x1080 Dell (TN Panel) .|.
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conb123
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31. August 2009 @ 12:04 |
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Alright then i shall definitely go with the ati card instead but are you sure about that power supply, it looks brilliant feature wise but will my pc run on a 400w psu ok? According to this psu calculator by asus 
i need 550w
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31. August 2009 @ 12:12 |
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oh most definately :)
sammorris here, our 25k+ poster had, for along time, an overclocked Q9550 (quad core at 3.6GHz) AND a 4870x2 with a 520W PSU, so you are perfectly fine :)
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conb123
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31. August 2009 @ 12:14 |
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Oh right ok then sorry i think you must have missed it but if you look a couple of posts above, there is a pic of the psu calculator which says i have to have 550w
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31. August 2009 @ 12:25 |
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trust me. a corsair PSU which states it is 400W means it can easily take upto 500W. and when ASUS says 550Ws, its caus it wants to cover its arse when people use very cheap PSUs.
if there is ONE thing in your PC that should have quailty it is the PSU, as if its cheap, it can possibley kill you. and thats no joke.
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conb123
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31. August 2009 @ 12:32 |
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Ok right sweeeeeet, thanks for all your help man your really great. Have you got like a +rep system on these forums that i can give you? I should be alright using the 4850 on my ezcool psu just until i can afford the corsair shouldn't i?
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31. August 2009 @ 13:00 |
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if you want to risk it, go ahead but i say get the PSU first and then the 4850.
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conb123
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31. August 2009 @ 13:11 |
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Okeydoke, thanks for everything :D
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31. August 2009 @ 13:27 |
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Power supply calculators are absolute crap. I've seen some read 810W for PCs that only need 380-400W of power to run, they're shocking. A Corsair CX 400W PSU is ample for your system, whereas an EZCool 550W is certainly not sufficient.
Agreed on the HD4850 it blows the 9800GT out of the water (even the cheaper HD4830 beats a 9800GT)
Get the PSU first and then the graphics card. The PSU is the most important part of any PC, for safety reasons.
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conb123
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31. August 2009 @ 13:35 |
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Yes i shall definitely get the psu first, i didn't realise that they were so dangerous, i mean i have had this psu for like a year now.
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31. August 2009 @ 13:36 |
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and it could literally catch fire at any moment...
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31. August 2009 @ 13:55 |
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Yeah what they said. PSU then video card. Hate to be a party pooper too but you will still have a bad CPU bottleneck with a Pentium D. Just saying... Even a new Celeron dual core will be worlds faster.
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31. August 2009 @ 14:08 |
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what resultuion monitor do you have. for games, still GPU>CPU for FPS.
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31. August 2009 @ 14:57 |
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Remember, PSU calculators, are simply showing the MAX MAX, PEAK PEAK, should one ever be running ALL hardware at their peak wattage Simultaneously. Which just isn't gonna happen. The calculator is completely mathematical. That is assuming that its information about given wattages is/are correct. Honestly, there not much more than a guideline. You only need a 550W PSU if you plan on running ALL the hardware in your tower simultaneously. Corsair is a good company. They UNDERRATE there PSU's. I love it when companies do that :D Certainly much better than a company that OVERRATES there shiznit! My primary system may very likely be running a time bomb! I will NOT make that mistake again. So far it has been OK though. As soon as i'm able, a Corsair will replace my current PSU. Now I just hope that I didn't hex the company LOL! *Knocks on wood*
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31. August 2009 @ 15:03 |
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Yeah Pentium Ds are pretty crap CPUs.
Example about PSUs: A 550W EZcool will be around 140W. A 430W Thermaltake will be 250W. A 700W OCZ will be 600W, A 750W Corsair will be 800W.
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