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Disc format for nitendo revolution??
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paztelu
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18. May 2005 @ 16:31 |
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Well I have been searching for the specs for the nitendo revolution and I havent seen which disc format they are using, I have heard that It will be backwards compatible with the game cube so it will probbably be a dvd, also It will not be blu-ray or HD-DVD, probbably some kind of double layer DVD or single layer dvd which they can have up to 6 times more space than they had with the mini dvds (Mini DVD=1.4GB DVD9(Dual, Double layer)=8.5gb) which I think is probbably enough for them, another thing to think about is what is nintendo planning to do in terms of loading times, remember that nitendo has always used media for their consoles in which there is little o no loading time, but sacrifiying space (N64 Catridge=128mb, PS1 CD=700MB, Game cube Mini DVD=1.4GB PS2 and Xbox DVD= 4.7GB), another thing that may be important is the fact that the format is easy to copy (Im hoping to mod the console and burn my own backups)not a weird format or not to easy to copy format like they did for gamecube, So what do you think will be the Format nitendo revolution will use?!?!
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manufan
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19. May 2005 @ 12:46 |
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I agree with you. I think nintendo will almost definately use 4.7GB discs. Its a shame really because they can do brilliant games for the console and make them even better with larger discs. I love nintendo and have done for over 10 years i just hope they dont filter out eventually like sega did.
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soccerboi
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19. May 2005 @ 13:10 |
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Yeah, nintendo is using the 12 cm dvds aka 4.7 gb discs. That would really suck if nintendo died, because then their new games would not be as good as the older ones (kind of like sega)
@manufan: too bad manu didn't win the UEFA tournament this year. I was rootin for them too!
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manufan
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20. May 2005 @ 13:06 |
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I know im gutted maybe next year, and your right about the games it would be a massive loss for the games industry.
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ragde
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21. May 2005 @ 10:16 |
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Yes it will be the 12cm Discs and they will be 4.7gb, but it will come in a different format just like the Gamecube's format. Another thing XBox360 is sticking to the regular DVD, so the only one changing to a different format will be PS3
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coldasice
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22. May 2005 @ 11:42 |
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You'd think the new Gamecube Revolution MIGHT be the same format as the original Gamecube (only larger discs) as Revolution is suppose to be backwards compatible.
Knowledge is power. Power makes everything and everyone work. Now then, let's work with each other.
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paztelu
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22. May 2005 @ 19:31 |
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Well what do you think nintendo will do to prevent piracy, now that the Nintendo disc can be copied nintendo will probabably stays with is hands crossed, they have always been good with preventing piracy, what do you people think they will do this time??
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ragde
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22. May 2005 @ 20:17 |
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Yes they can be copied, but only off a gamecube, I don't think the revolution has the same bugs as the Gamecube
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paztelu
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23. May 2005 @ 07:56 |
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But stills pirates will find a way to crack the consoles, as they have done with various consoles? the thing is how many time will they take to do so (They took 4 years to do with the GC) If nintendo decides to put protection they will take longer to crack it, Its in hands of nintendo to prevent pirates from cracking their consoles.
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hagaren
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24. May 2005 @ 15:36 |
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In your first post you said the cube used mini dvd's. That is not true it uses a format called gd-rom which can hold about as much info as a dvdr maybe a little les. If cube disc were mini dvd's they would be as easy to copy as ps2 games
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25. May 2005 @ 03:23 |
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i thought the GC did use mini-dvds but the format they are written on is gd-rom cuz the new modchips allows you to boot from mini-dvs?
Also, i think 4.7GB dvds are big enough considering the new zelda game is ment to be massive and it looks stunning and that all fits (i presume) on one their discs
PS2 V10 MC Xploit 250GB HDD
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coldasice
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26. May 2005 @ 07:06 |
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Both of you guys need to re-think. The Gamecube disc is a different HYBRID of mini-DVD called G.O.D. (Gamecube Optical Disc) It's not GD-ROM based! Why do you think Gamecube can read games from mini dvd-rs? You think a GD-ROM can pack ONLY a LITTLE bit less than a dvd-r? GD-ROMs can pack 1.5 to 1.8GB of data compared to a DVD-Rs (fullsize) 4.7GB. The mini dvd-rs can hold JUST about as much as a GD-ROM but it's about 0.3GBs off. Dreamcast was based on GD-ROM technology. If a GC was GD-ROM based, it would be able to read Dreamcast data and vise versa. So I put it to the test. I have a program for Dreamcast that allows to read off GD-ROM data. It's called DCHACKER. It can display files off a GD-ROM based disc. It read my Dreamcast games just fine. However, it displayed nothing off a Gamecube's G.O.D. or what you seem to call a Gamecube GD-ROM. Also, if that was still indeed the the case that a GD-ROM could actually read DVDs, then in theory, my dreamcast should be able to read DVDs. Even if it took a little modding. Look the through the Dreamcast sites out there. The only thing Dreamcast comes close to in reading video is VCD/SVCD which can only be read from a CD-R. The GD-ROM cannot read DVDs, and the Gamecube does not run on GD-ROM based technology. G.O.D. is a new protection by Nintendo. And I'd say they did a heck of a job at it.
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hagaren
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26. May 2005 @ 10:29 |
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Interesting I was told my someone who I consider very knowledgable about this subject that gd-roms could hold alot more info than 1.8gb but maybe he was wrong thanks for clearing it up
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coldasice
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26. May 2005 @ 15:54 |
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Yup no problem. I stand corrected though, a GD-ROM can hold a MAX of 2GB. With Resident Evil Code: VERONICA, each disc size was 1.9GB (round off whatever) Not many games utilized the GD-ROMs full potiential though. The information on something so close to CD-ROM (without having to change to DVD-ROM)being over 1GB was considered by manufactures to be *unstable data*. That's why SEGA asked people to treat their games with *care*, as one scratch to the GD-ROM data would give the game an 85% chance of being unplayable. And people wonder why GD-R/RW drives with GD-R data wasn't made commercial after the Dreamcast died huh? A normal CD is pressed, and still a scratch will do SOME harm. Copy that CD to CD-R and make the same scratch and I bet it will be more messed up. GD-ROMS were pressed as well. One can only imagine how much MORE vulnerable they'd be to abuse if they were written to GD-Rs. I don't think a company (nintendo) needs to copy a mistake to prove it's STILL A mistake. Small tech lesson for you! ;)
Knowledge is power. Power makes everything and everyone work. Now then, let's work with each other.
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Arcon
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24. June 2005 @ 00:04 |
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Nintendo never officially said that its going to be DVD9. Nintendo said it will PLAY dvds(DVD9 would be a DVD BUT they retracted the statement and said 12cm media.Why did they retract the "DVD" statement for 12cm media statement? They could have just said proprietary DVD and save the work. This defensive motion hints that they are hiding something OTHER than a DVD or DVD9 just a dual-layered DVD its STILL a DVD thus why did they change the statement if the last statement is true?)."12cm"(HD-DVDs are the same size as a DVD but they changed the statement "DVD" to the unknown "12cm") Could this be a backward spinning propreitary panasonic dual-layered 45GB HD-DVD drive?
No one knows for sure if it is or NOT a propreitary dual-layer HD-DVD media. but there are some very educaded guesses. This in this post.
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coldasice
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24. June 2005 @ 15:31 |
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VERY analitical! There could be MANY theories to that as well. The Gamecube's discs are known as G.O.D. (Gamecube optical disc) A different hybrid...if you will...of DVD. A mini DVD that actually ISN'T dvd. Panasonic Q was designed as such so a gamer could have a Gamecube and DVD player in one. However the price of $430.00 (I think it was that price) was WAY more than gamers wanted to pay to have a gamecube/dvd player in one. They just as well buy a PS2 or an Xbox for what $179.00 refurbrished? Perhaps Nintendo is using the same kind of media....only pressing to 12cm discs. But for what reason? All their competitors had the *up-n-over* on them because their consoles had DVD players built into them. Perhaps The nintendo revolution will be a Gamecube that instead plays "12cm" G.O.D.s. That would explain how it can be backwards compatible. The dvd player *mod* to it would just be an upgrade. Then obviously all the new power and stuff and so on they plan to add on to it. Then again, a new and innovated protection would be just like Nintendo to do. After all, they are the company with the highest piracy rate problem. My conclusion: Too many theories and rationalities. We need more info LOL!!! Only time will tell.
Knowledge is power. Power makes everything and everyone work. Now then, let's work with each other.
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paztelu
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24. June 2005 @ 20:54 |
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Actually every dvd burner capable of burning an 8cm dvd can burn G.O.D or a copy of it, because you an actually do backups of G.O.D following some steps, but as you said maybe nintendo will use 12cm disc that will give them at least 3 times more space that they do with the actual 8cm dvds
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sporthero
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9. January 2006 @ 14:36 |
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I disagree
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dgm08
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19. January 2006 @ 08:55 |
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You disagree with the fact that you can't burna G.O.D? Well you can according to team modders. CloneCD can do it. But it takes overnight or something like that.
http://teammodders.com/viewtopic.php?t=64
Second method. Better than streaming
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mr-cube
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5. March 2006 @ 12:27 |
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are revolution will only use 4.7 gb dvds? is it possible that nintendo will incorporate the ability to play dual layed dvds if the game devolpers need more room?
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5. March 2006 @ 13:49 |
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Nintendo said that their discs could hold up to 8.5GB in dual-layer form, so the Rev's media should have enough capacity considering that the XBOX 360 is using dual layer DVD's with similar capacity, and the Rev won't offer HDTV resolutions, so their games shouldn't be as big as the competition's.
Razengan!!!
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24. April 2006 @ 11:43 |
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from what i read in the Revolution booklet from the TGS 2005, it said that they might use the UDF format but the encryption will be super high. they said it will never be cracked but all of us know thats what all the consoles manufactures say but in truth they lie since pirates always find out how to do that.
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