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24. January 2008 @ 11:26 |
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Originally posted by GTR35:
nice work Creaky...ok back to topic...i'm not a pc builder but i have the knowledge on how to build or at least know wat parts needed to build a good pc...ok the pc i wanna build consist of:
-Intel C2D E6600 cpu
-eVGA 680i mobo
-2x 7600GT or maybe 1x 7950GT
-2GB of RAM(still deciding wat brand/manufacturer to get...any suggestions...budget between $150 - $200(R1000 - R1500))
-250GB WD harddrive
-Thermaltake case(cheapest u can get)
thats bout it
RAM is RAM for the most part with the exception of the implemented technology. Warranty, reliability and company stability are the key things to look for.........oh yeah..........as well as reviews.
I recommend OCZ. I just put in 4GB (Vista and XP only utilize 3.3GB) in my Vista Ult. machine and it's 800Mhz and it's cool running, fast timing and backed by warranty (lifetime). A little power hungry at 2.1V needed but I just clocked up the Mobo .3 Crucial is great. Kingston is great too.
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24. January 2008 @ 11:26 |
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Originally posted by cincyrob:
come on now i know there is atleast 1 snow fairy out there!!!!!!!!!!!!
;)`
NO BODY wants to see that!!! lol. BUT if any of you do send me your Email addy and I'll forward it right to your "door step". hehehe. :D
Originally posted by rob:
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Originally posted by sammyboy:
how accurate are the rails etc. ?
dumb question here dont know if i should ask. but i dont know and i want to.. what does that mean????
NO dumb questions here rob, you know that. ;) I think that p/s (CM-850w) has 6 18A rails....and I feel that they are all pretty stable. I gave a "screeny" of Everest that shows some of the voltages but no one has answered on the availability of another progie besides speedfan that will do the same thing but differently. lol. I tried some others last night for temps and it seems that Coretemp worked pretty well with my setup. ;)
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24. January 2008 @ 11:43 |
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Originally posted by GTR35:
hey bra nearly as same as mine...VERY COOL...i like it...yes its bang for buck...try overclock ur cpu to 3.6GHz...then its bang for big bucks
Although I feel that overclocking is pretty unnecessary........my ears did perk up when you mentioned 3.6.......WOW??
The E6600 is 2.4. Is that possible and SAFE???
My rig.
Intel D975XBX2 Intel® 975X LGA775 ATX
Core2Duo E6600 (2.4)
OCZ 800Mhz "OCZ2P800R22GK" (4GB)
Antec Neo Power 550W
Ati X1950 Pro PCIe (soon to be 2 crossfired)
(1) Samsung IDE 160GB HDD (Main drive believe it or not)
(1) WD 320GB Sata 1.5Gbps
(1) Maxtor 500GB Sata 3.0Gbps
(1) Sony DVD RW DL 18x or 16x (can't recall)
(1) Samsung SH-s203 DVD RW DL 20x (world's fastest!!) w/lightscr.
No floppy (only a retard puts a floppy in unless truly needed)
MS ergo 4000 KB
MS laser mouse Bl Tth 8000 mouse
Windows experience index of 5.3 (only because I have 2.4 and not 3.0Ghz proc. and if I had a P4 3.0 THEN it would give a 5.8/5.9)
BUILD FOR LESS THAN A GRIP (1000.00)
My machine was built to be part of my Home Theatre system for over 8 years now. Sits right next to TV and used as gaming, DVD, music, Internet etc.
To be honest.............it SCREEEAAAMMMMS!!!! Nothing so far it can't handle at the higher detail level (have not played Crysis yet though).
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24. January 2008 @ 12:15 |
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Laptop question..Hopefully answered..I've got a Toshiba Laptop M115-S1061..It powers up to the safe mode,last known good configuration screen.Can not get past this screen,changed C-Mos settings to boot from CD/DVD Rom..But even the recovery disc will not boot.Tech Support is as useless as tits on a Bull..I'm thinkin that the DVD Drive might be bad,do I have to take the LapTop apart to remove the drive..I noticed,that when I open the drive the small optic retainer has 2 small screws & a small ribbon cable
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24. January 2008 @ 12:17 |
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Originally posted by abuzar1:
Whoa calm down guys. I guess all it boils down to in the end is Performance(750W) vs Convenience(650W).
If your computer's power requirements are 600 Watts and you elect to install a 750 Watt power supply.......THEN YOU WILL NOT SEE A PERFORMANCE DIFFERENCE OVER USING A 650 WATT SUPPLY. This is not an opinion, this is an electrical engineering fact.
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24. January 2008 @ 12:57 |
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Originally posted by greensman:
@Blade & ALL in the states,
Here's some pretty good RAM for cheap.... link to OCZ Reaper Ed.
btw I wouldn't be afraid of that Cooler Master 750W, it's ok to get to much power. :D
.....gm
thats a damn good deal on ram...this ram was brought up earlier but it was recommended to go with the ballistix...lol im not sure what i want to get.
btw i would prolly go with 4gb of that OCZ Reaper 800 whereas i would only go with
2gb of the ballistix 1066
IS 1066 really that much better than 800?
i saw some memory benchmarks and in almost all cases they all were pretty neck in neck in all catagories (sorry no source to back it up)
@ Sam & LP
so it would be wise to consider a 700 watt setup? and in this case cheaper would be better and i should go with the OCZ PSU
I am Lord Bladerzor.
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24. January 2008 @ 13:40 |
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Originally posted by Bladerz05:
thats a damn good deal on ram...this ram was brought up earlier but it was recommended to go with the ballistix...lol im not sure what i want to get.
btw i would prolly go with 4gb of that OCZ Reaper 800 whereas i would only go with
2gb of the ballistix 1066
IS 1066 really that much better than 800?
i saw some memory benchmarks and in almost all cases they all were pretty neck in neck in all catagories (sorry no source to back it up)
Here's a link with comparison (prices) for the EGG on DDR2 800 RAM. I chose these for reliability and brand "awareness". ;) don't forget the OCZ link at buy.com link
I think sorta like banned4gd does. lol. RAM is RAM to a point BUT be sure you get "quality" RAM and "compatible" RAM as well. Your mobo manufacturer should have some kind of "compatibility" chart for RAM and their mobo. :D
Originally posted by Blade:
@ Sam & LP
so it would be wise to consider a 700 watt setup? and in this case cheaper would be better and i should go with the OCZ PSU
I'm NOT sam or Lp (thank goodness....hehehe) but I would really look at your setup and determine the LEAST amount of power you will use at PEAK performance and go at least 100W over that. My personal opinion is that you will need that power at some point. If you OC your system then it will draw more power, if you add loads of goodies in there it will need more power. And so on. But in the end it's your decision and we're just here for suggestions and advice. TAKE advice from whoever you want to but I say again MORE power will not hurt you if you buy a 750W p/s. :P
good luck to you........ ;)
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24. January 2008 @ 14:08 |
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24. January 2008 @ 14:18 |
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Originally posted by cincyrob:
ok the wife has gotten in on the case hunting. here is what she likes
http://www.svc.com/cx-830dspd-01.html
Ok............that's cool........BUT, I am going to assume this is YOUR rig. You're the man, the maintainer, the builder and IF that's the case you should have the say. Personally..........I totally dig the one in the middle at the bottom of the page that has the aluminum to it.
"Cooler Master CX-830DMSK-01 Limited Edition Stacker 830 CSX - Diamond Plate and Skulls" is the one. This one's just DOPE!!!
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24. January 2008 @ 14:24 |
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Hmm, expensive. Make damn sure that's the case you want before you order that bad boy. The Stacker 830 evo's nice, but the paintjob... Well, let's just say it takes "personal preference" to another level... :P
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24. January 2008 @ 14:33 |
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had i the money, i would by a Commodore PC case
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24. January 2008 @ 14:49 |
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Somebody said something about needing 1066Mhz RAM or not. The OCZ Reaper, while good, I wouldn't call it top class RAM. Even if you have very good 800 ram you're looking at 3.6 Ghz at decent timings.
Now if I were you I would want more than that. I already made that mistake and I don't want other to do the same lol.
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24. January 2008 @ 15:00 |
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Originally posted by cincyrob:
ok the wife has gotten in on the case hunting. here is what she likes
http://www.svc.com/cx-830dspd-01.html
Rob,
Did she see the PRICE tag?? If I recall that would be more than you want to spend TOTAL for your rig. :P
Anyone have any dealings with a Microsoft K80-00034 mouse and if so were they acceptable. ;) link
Looking at getting a "cheap" wireless mouse. ;) tia for your input....
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24. January 2008 @ 15:29 |
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greensman,
As far as an inexpensive wireless mouse goes, I use a Kensington!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826125037
It has terrific battery life, can use rechargeable batteries as well as 2 AA batteries. The only experience I've had with a M$ wireless mouse has been bad. it just didn't work that well! Don't like their wireless keyboards either! Cheap stuff at cheap prices. Even their wired keyboards and mice aren't that good. the letters wear off the keys in a matter of months and the mouse is very fussy as to what color the surface is you're using it on. Won't work on a black surface at all! My Kensington works fine on all surfaces!
Best Regards,
Russ
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24. January 2008 @ 15:31 |
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hi :)
banned4gd says
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........BUT, I am going to assume this is YOUR rig. You're the man, the maintainer, the builder and IF that's the case you should have the say.
your obviously not married then LOL
@G.M hi :)
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24. January 2008 @ 15:37 |
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Gurnard: by the way, to quote an individual person, click the link that says "+quote" on the bottom right of their post. The resulting reply page will demonstrate how to type the command.
Theone: Now that's something I agree on. I haven't used kensington peripherals, but the microsoft keyboards/mice I've had have all been a bit naff. So far my Saitek keyboard and Razer mouse are holding up well. The buttons are still responsive and all the letters on my keyboard are still perfectly formed, and that's after a lot of forum posts and a lot of gaming!
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24. January 2008 @ 15:39 |
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banned4gd,
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Although I feel that overclocking is pretty unnecessary........my ears did perk up when you mentioned 3.6.......WOW??
The E6600 is 2.4. Is that possible and SAFE???
with the right mobo, cpu binning, and hardware it is. I've heard of the E6600 OC'ing as high as 3.96 stable on water. I disagree with the 1st part of your statement. OC'ing is where you get the most bang foy the buck. my E6600 at 3.6ghz will tear up an E6800 but only cost 1/3 of the price. here is where my E6600 runs everyday:
open my cpu-z validation link in my sig.
Rig #1 Asus Rampage Formula Mobo, Intel Core2Quad Q9450 CPU @ 3.55ghz, 2gb Corsair DDR2 1066 Dominator Ram @ 5-5-5-15, TR Ultra 120 Extreme w/ Scythe 9 blade 110 cfm 120mm Fan HSF, HIS Radeon 512mb HD3850 IceQ TurboX GPU, Corsair 620HX P/S, CM Stacker 830 Evo Case, Rig #2 Asus P5W DH Deluxe Mobo, Intel C2D E6600 CPU @ 3.6ghz, 2gb Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800 Ram @ 4-4-4-12-2t, Zalman CNPS9500LED HSF, Sapphire Radeon X850XT PE GPU, Corsair 620HX P/S, Cooler Master Mystique Case, Viewsonic 20.1" Widescreen Digital LCD Monitor, Klipsch Promedia Ultra 5.1 THX Desktop Speakers, http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=348351 http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=236435 |
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24. January 2008 @ 15:49 |
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Originally posted by theonejrs:
greensman,
As far as an inexpensive wireless mouse goes, I use a Kensington!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826125037
It has terrific battery life, can use rechargeable batteries as well as 2 AA batteries. The only experience I've had with a M$ wireless mouse has been bad. it just didn't work that well! Don't like their wireless keyboards either! Cheap stuff at cheap prices. Even their wired keyboards and mice aren't that good. the letters wear off the keys in a matter of months and the mouse is very fussy as to what color the surface is you're using it on. Won't work on a black surface at all! My Kensington works fine on all surfaces!
Best Regards,
Russ
hi Russ,
welcome back my friend. I have very little experience with M$ mice or keyboards however, I don't like wireless mice or keyboards period. I use and prefer a plain ole logitec keyboard and plain ole logitec optical mouse. nothing fancy. the only wireless mouse I use is for my laptop and it is a Targus.
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24. January 2008 @ 15:54 |
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My school uses Logitech keyboards and mice, and they're pleasant to use. I owned a Logitech media keyboard elite for quite some time too, and that was nice as well, if a little noisy to type with. (Yeah yeah, I know!)
I'm a bit of a die-hard wired mouse and keyboard fan myself. That's mainly because the only wireless keyboard/mouse I had was a keytronic set that was god awful. I never even considered going back, the cables don't really annoy me much at all.
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24. January 2008 @ 16:04 |
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Yeah Mort your CPU will do much better better than the 6800.
Of course nowadays you can get a E8400 for 230 that will overclock to 4Ghz+ on air! I'm not sure if Quad Core is worth it yet...
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24. January 2008 @ 16:09 |
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hi :)
@ sammorris
thanks for the tip...but i didn't want to quote the whole thing...just a bit of it
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24. January 2008 @ 16:13 |
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You can do that by removing the text you don't want to include in the quote from your reply... ;-)
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24. January 2008 @ 16:14 |
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Originally posted by abuzar1:
Yeah Mort your CPU will do much better better than the 6800.
Of course nowadays you can get a E8400 for 230 that will overclock to 4Ghz+ on air! I'm not sure if Quad Core is worth it yet...
yea....... now you can get an E6600 for about $230 too. I paid almost $100 more for mine but mine has much better binning and will OC much better than the ones you get now. the E6600 was top dog in it's day.
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24. January 2008 @ 16:17 |
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Indeed it was. I wonder how many people bought them based on advice from aD. How does it fare up to the E6550 and E6750 for the same overclock?
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24. January 2008 @ 16:19 |
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It would perform the same probably wouldn't it?
Hey mort My CPU is at 3.6 Ghz. Why don't we run some program or something? So we can compare performance.
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