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razzza
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19. April 2005 @ 01:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have read with interest this forum on reasons why dvd movies will not play. I have been burning movies for some time now and up until recently have not tried to play them back on my pc. I did of course try but end up with an error message of the type that is sent to microsoft. I have tried numerous player to see if that was the problem but to no avail. I rang a techie and he reccommended I reinstall windows because when I tried to play using windows media player without first installing a decoder (Intervideo), he reckons some settings have been locked down by windows with settings made to the registry that will not allow associated file types to be used elsewhere (??// dont know what is going on there) he said never use windows media player as it stuffs everything up. So does anyone know what is happening here I need help. Note: Region is set and have one turn left. tried running Dvd region killer, updated the firmware, tried playing unburnt movies. I have a cd drive slaved to the dvd drive. By default the dvd drive shows up as a cd drive.(unless there is dvd media in drive) I can post a log of the error report to anyone who can understand it. Have a asus DRW-0804P DVD+-R/RW Drive
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colw
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19. April 2005 @ 05:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Try defragmenting system and replacing interface between chair and keyboard (possible malfunction).
razzza
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19. April 2005 @ 15:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Colw, I think statements like that from a "senior member" are at the least unfortunate. I have tried everything. Will try defragmenting system as you say but do not know how this will help. Am running 3.2Ghz multi thread intelP4 processor, 2000mb ram, 200 Gb hard drive. Can burn the movies just can not play them back.using any software, just get same error message no. 0xc00000ld. Help would be appreciated, user interface does need some work. If I knew as much as you lot I wouldn't be posting I would be helping. Thanks
razzza
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19. April 2005 @ 16:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Right then, I defragmented the drive, nothing. Same error. Must be a registry setting from one of the programs. Is there any way other than formatting the hard drive and re-installing windows to rectify this problem.
ScubaPete
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22. April 2005 @ 20:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   


@razzza,

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Colw, I think statements like that from a "senior member" are at the least unfortunate.
You my friend need an severe attitude adjustment.

For starters, you owe Cowl an apology.
He endeavored to help you and you had the gall to slap him down.
You're not making friends with that kind of treatment. Pple are here on their free time to help others - you want to have an attitude ? Try going to a $$$$ Pay for site - even with you paying them, they won't take mouth from you. We won't either.

We'll be waiting for your apology -

Many pple don't look at the simple things and a fragmented drive will cause the problems you're experiencing.

Now, to address you problem . . .

You haven bothered to tell us what media you're using.

Do your discs play on standalone players ?

Get back to us with what you're using -

BTW InterVideo's player sucks as does WMP. Most pple here use PowerDVD as it is compatible with most everything ?

Pete





The ?Old Man? Pete (ö¿ô)

Your DVD answers are at ScubaPete's DVD Backup Corner ~>

http://www.dvdplusvideo.com/tutorial007.html

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Pea27
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23. April 2005 @ 04:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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try replacing interface between chair and keyboard (possible malfunction).
If somebody said this to me I would have said something worse back! The reason ppl r here is to seek expert knowledge from those of you lucky enough to know.
I dont mean to offend ne1 but I think no apology is necessary!
Cant we all just get along? Because we all know that if people who know how to fix the problems us silly ppl hav didnt want to, then they wudnt b on the forum!
Just to let u kno that I installed Power DVD the other day, and now some DVDs will play but the playback is a little skippy, as I have never used Power DVD before are there any settings I can change or something to improve playback? thankyou :)
razzza
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23. April 2005 @ 17:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Scuba Pete,
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"You my friend need an severe attitude adjustment.

For starters, you owe Cowl an apology.
He endeavored to help you and you had the gall to slap him down.
You're not making friends with that kind of treatment. Pple are here on their free time to help others - you want to have an attitude ? Try going to a $$$$ Pay for site - even with you paying them, they won't take mouth from you. We won't either.

We'll be waiting for your apology -"

I have read many of your replies to people like myself who are in need of help and have never once seen you talk to anyone in a demeaning manner, no matter how silly the question. You think I slapped Colw down, that the treatment was bad and I need an attitude adjustment.

That was nothing.

I simply said that his statement was unfortunate,given his position in afterdawn. I guess I am a little defensive about my position as not knowing enough about the ins and outs of computers also coupled with the fact I had spent long tedious hours trying to solve the problem without bothering you lot. I had defragmented the drive just 2 weeks prior to posting, coupled with uninstalling Intervideo and installing other decoders such as windvd, and some others downloaded for good measure.I had updated the firmware. These attempts were all made from reading the replies made to other people. An attitude adjustment I do not need, I had done the homework, I had answers for all questions, and had tried everything I could before calling on your time.

If Colw was being sarcastic and I didn't read that through the text then Colw, I am sorry. The statement I made to you was not neccessary and I should have taken your statement with a grain of salt.I do appreciate that you all provide this help free of charge and we all as newbies appreciate what you are doing for us.

If you still feel like helping then this is where I am at.

Reformatted the drive and reinstalled windows. Same error message. I think it is a hardware problem. Something to do with the way I slaved a cd drive to the dvd drive so will remove drive and try that. Will also get Power DvD and try that as well.

Thankyou for your time, I may even look at adjusting my short fuse.
razzza
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23. April 2005 @ 17:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Scuba
I am using SKC DVD-R 4X, TDK DVD+ and - 4 and 8X, also tried to play stamped media from video store. My discs all play on standalone player. I can still burn the discs, I just can not play them.
Thankyou
Razzza
razzza
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25. April 2005 @ 02:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
For those of you who want to know,
I downloaded some codecs for a game that wouldnt play due to the video at the start of the game, the game then played. Before checking to see if a dvd would also play I installed powerdvd and low and behold ALL dvd's now play on my pc. Dont know whether it was the codecs or powerdvd but who cares because they play.

I am a very happy man.

Thankyou Scuba Pete for your help. It was invaluable and I do appreciate it. I would especially like to thank Pea27 for his support in what was a trying time for me.:):):):)

colw.
Isn't it funny how a little power and a lot of distance can make the weak feel strong :)
brobear
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25. April 2005 @ 08:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi all,
On the matter of players, I noticed InterVideo took a bit of a rap. I've been using WinDVD6 for some time and have found it to be an excellent program. My usage and my opinion there. I haven't checked surveys to see what everyone else is saying. However, some of my friends who are Seniors and Addicts use the same software and they think it is superior to most players on the market. In fact, it was at one of their suggestions that I first tried it out. http://www.intervideo.com There is a full function trial for anyone interested in an actual test of the app. Just make sure the PC is compatible and any necessary software is installed (all free and most systems already have things like the latest DirectX). I've seen a couple of instances where people had problems, but it was mostly because they neglected to read the requirements for using the software. BTW, WinDVD6 is compatible with everything I've tried it with.

PowerDVD... if it works for you, by all means use it. There are a number of decent players out there. Besides, WinDVD6 is a bit pricey, but I think it's worth what I paid for it. Sometimes you get what you paid for, I did in this case.

'Brobear'





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razzza
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25. April 2005 @ 16:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Bro Bear,
it would be interesting to talk to you further about the differences in decoders. I was using intervideo but nothing would work. I have heard that the player is pretty good but I had no luck. I find powerdvd to be a little patchy so would like to get win dvd going.Am running directx 9.0c. The rest of the info is above if you are interested. I am certainly interested in finding out what the problem was before.

Razzza
ScubaPete
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25. April 2005 @ 19:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
razzza,

Sorry for the delay in getting back to you, it seems there was this Surgeon with a scalpel that had my name on it, I've been dodging him for weeks but he finally cornered me ? I'm back from the hospital now and feeling better -

Glad that you are "Playing" again,

Sorry I jumped so fast before BUT we don't know everyone who posts here and you told us none of what you did or tried, etc. When asking for help I haven't seen a case where we have received too much information (Lol) - Generally, the PC's specs, any errors, when they occurred what you were doing when they happened, DVD's OR file types involved, All programs involved, drives specs, etc.

Information = Solutions
Precise and prolific information = Faster and final Solutions

Now that you're doing well, it doesn't mean it's time for you to up and move on - this is a give and take kind of a deal ~

You've seen how we work and you've seen that we had fun doing it. - Now it's your turn, stop back when you're free and help someone else - You'll have fun and, a chance to learn some more, teaching is a learning experience too, you know :-)

Take a few minutes and check out our opening page. We've got a ton"O"stuff here at aD ~ Checkout some of our other forums, we have the "Safety Valve" a forum about anything - from "What's bugging you," to, "Where members come from" OR "The best joke you've ever heard." More free time on your hands ? Check out our forum's on Home Theater components (there might be an idea for something new to do with yours), CD's, PS2's, X-box or Gamecube topics OR check out the forum on Cellular phones, something new about yours might be there ~ one can never tell :)

Me ? Well I'll be over there, behind the water cooler, under the potted Palm, sipping a "cold one" and chewing the fat, trying to help the next Newbie with the weight of the burning world upon their shoulders.

- Feel free to stop by and say "Howdy" ~

I'll expect to Sea ya soon,

Cheers,

Pete :b)











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Your DVD answers are at ScubaPete's DVD Backup Corner ~>

http://www.dvdplusvideo.com/tutorial007.html
razzza
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26. April 2005 @ 04:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Cheers Pete,
you sound like a top bloke. Hope you feeling better. Somehow get the feeling you would rather be sipping the cold one in the hot sun on a fiji beach instead of in front of the pc though. I have to say a little knowledge is dangerous, I want to do and learn more and in the end I touch what doesn't need touching. Have lost count on the amount of reformats I have done to save myself.

I am not sure what fixed my computer, if it was powerdvd then why did it work and not the others. Was it the protected content, a registry setting, the codecs, I am baffled. I will work it out one day though.

In the meantime I have to make a circuit that takes a degraded analogue signal and turn it into a thresholded digital signal of the same polarity. For good measure I have a analogue exam and lab report to hand in this week as well. Think I would rather be under the knife.

Will help out where I can Pete but like I said am not sure if I know enough to be of any assistance. A bit of Delphi and thats it really.
(I know less than most there as well.)

Hope to learn more from you

Razza
kanum
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26. April 2005 @ 07:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Set your Drive's region BUT remember, it can only be set 5 times then it's all over - it's a new drive for you SO, if you're in the US, it's region 1, the UK, Europe, Japan, region 2, SE Asia, region 3, Australia, region 4, etc. - Get it right
how come only five times?
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how come only five times?
Drive makers keeping the MPAA happy.



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I don't understand why people want to mess around with the region settings for a drive. Anyone hear about AnyDVD or Region Free? Besides making the media files appear region free, they do a good job of decrypting. AnyDVD has a 3 week full function trial. http://www.slysoft.com In fact, I believe I brought this up earlier in this same thread.

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razzza

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Just in case you missed those from the install. I'm assuming you just have the trial. If not, what did InterVideo support have to say? With the trial I don't know if the short usage period would be worth any hassles of troubleshooting a system. The program is compatible with various Windows operating systems, and it actually requires the latest version of Windows Media Player with the WinDVD6 Platinum. So, I have no idea why a tech would say using Media Player would cause problems. I still view some files with Media Player and it has no effect on my other player software. I haven't toyed with it enough to see if one can lock settings that will cause problems. That is a question best asked in a Windows forum specific to Media Player problems. (Unless we're lucky enough to have a Windows guru wonder in, who knows.)

At $69.95 US, WinDVD6 Platinum is a bit pricey for a player. Personally, I like the features and don't feel I got robbed. The support is also handy for owners who have a problem. I noticed Cyberlink sells PowerDVD for the same prices, so there is no savings between the 2.

BTW, when you say you added something, it would help to know what it was. What were the codecs added you think may have been helpful in getting your player going. I find it surprising that programs such as PowerDVD and/or WinDVD6 might need additional codecs and the company not have them listed. The programs have gone through R&D and are mass marketed for the Windows users. Also, most users find no fault with the programs. You have proponents and antagonists for everything, but all in all, the programs appear to work well and without problems. I wonder if something may have happened to your particular setup that effects player functionality.

'Brobear'





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brobear
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27. April 2005 @ 20:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Scubapete,

I was just reviewing the thread. I've been busy for a few days and haven't been keeping up with the forum. Thought we might have a technical discussion.

Words of yours truly:
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One of the better players is WinDVD6 from InterVideo.
Scubapete's opinion:
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BTW InterVideo's player sucks as does WMP. Most pple here use PowerDVD as it is compatible with most everything ?
I guess one could say the WinDVD6 trial from InterVideo sucks. It has a 2 week limit and it only plays for 5 minutes max per title. However, the video and audio quality are good. Here's what the InterVideo site says about the trial:
The trial version is a fully functional product with a time limitation.
This free trial will expire 14 days from the time you install the software. Playback of DVD movies limited to a maximum of five (5) minutes per title. You can activate your free trial version to a full version any time by purchasing the product.
WinDVD 6 automatically load in system once you reboot your computer.
WinDVD 6 Gold and WinDVD 6 Platinum share the same download. There is no need to re-download if you wish to upgrade from WinDVD 6 Gold to WinDVD 6 Platinum or to activate the add-on packs.
InterVideo does not provide technical support for free trial versions of its software.

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Hmmm... I thought I was part of the "pple here". I know of some other prominent members here at AD who use WinDVD6 as well. Getting down to the technical aspects, I find PowerDVD and WinDVD6 to be similar. The interface is similar, the picture quality of both appear to be good. I prefer the InterVideo, but that is mainly because of familiarity. Even the price is the same and the 2 functional levels of the app are priced the same. I have the premium retail version of both apps, so using either is no problem. Could you point out what "sucks" about WinDVD6 and what about PowerDVD makes it so much better? Also, what is PowerDVD compatible with that WinDVD6 isn't that would make it a better choice for viewing DVDs?

Depending on where one reads, there are those who like or dislike both of these apps. Personally, I've yet to find fault with either. An old fault with PowerDVD was its usurping the files of other programs. I don't find that to be happening with the latest (I think that's 6.0.1417) version on my system.

As far as WMP, I use it for Window's media files. I use DVD players for movies. I don't use movie players for Windows media nor do I try to play movies on WMP. I don't know of many people here who use WMP for watching DVD movies. It's just not a good choice for the purpose. So, I'll have to agree with you, WMP sucks for DVD movies. But WMP does have its uses.

'Brobear'





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razzza
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28. April 2005 @ 00:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
BroBear,

As you know I formatted my hard drive and reinstalled the lot to try and fix this problem, and it did not work. I am now using powerDvd but would still like to know what the problem was, Unanswered questions bug me.

The version of windvd I am not sure, but it is stamped 99-2000. It was bundled with a computer I purchased last October. The codecs I downloaded were required to run Motorcross Madness, and were WM9codecs.exe

Brobear I' am ashamed to admit this but I have only just read the readme on the intervideo install cd which warns of some known issues, such as if it is a bundled version it will need or may need patches to make compatible, and other things such as not being able to play movies in 480 x 640 resolution. Also there are issues with something to do with intel core logic, it is necessary to install a new driver which was included on the disk but had to be installed seperately, which I was not prompted to do.

I think now that the problem was I needed to get the patches, although I did go to the site and search for updates I mustve got the wrong ones, the player is a tad old I think and I do need to probably update to windvd platinum, I reckon it will "fit" my system and all known bugs have been ironed out for my particular graphics and sound card etc.

will download trial and see what comes of it.

Later BroBear and thanks
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brobear
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28. April 2005 @ 00:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Razzza

Sounds like you may have come on your own solution. An older OEM version which was incomplete. It would have had to be WinDVD5 or older. Unfortunately, the trial for the WinDVD6 player only plays for 5 minutes per title; but that should be long enough to see if it is functioning properly. Unless you've just been using the PowerDVD trial and haven't purchased it, I wouldn't advise paying $69.95 for another player. As mentioned, I have both WinDVD6 and PowerDVD and find them comparable. I only favor WinDVD6 because I've had it longer and am more familiar with it. Unless you've had a problem with your Windows installation, WinDVD6 should work. Just remember to read all the requirements and install any software you need according to instructions.

BTW, you're welcome. Glad to be of assistance.

'Brobear'





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