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Girl
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30. January 2003 @ 09:51 |
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Yipee!!! It worked! It worked! Thanks so much both of you! The quality is still very good Dela! Just as good as the DVD! And thankfully the subtitles didn't work in the first place! *mwah* Thank you so much! Don't laugh if I told you what movie I burnt. Monsters Inc.! I wanted to experiment with any movie and monsters was quite short (90 min) and my little bro really wanted it so I used it.
Next step, turn my Fever Tour: Live In Manchester DVD into a SVCD!
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30. January 2003 @ 13:06 |
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I wouldn't laugh, I thought Monsters Inc was very funny and i dont usually like stuff like that. If you are creating an SVCD then I would recommend CCE SP for speed purposes as well as quality but the price tag could be a problem i suppose :-S
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Girl
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31. January 2003 @ 03:09 |
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Uh oh! I'm facing another problem. The movie is incomplete. CD1 is fine but on CD2 the movie is incomplete. Just stops suddenly. There lots more space on the CD so I really don't know what happened. During the encoding I saw the movie credits so I'm sure I ripped the entire movie and encoded the whole thing. Where did the rest go? BTW how can I get subtitles that come and go on SVCD. One last question: How come there are no chapters? Its very annoying having to fast forward the entire movie to reach a certain bit.
Thanks for the suggestion but I'm not sure I can buy it. How much is it for?
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FIXIT
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31. January 2003 @ 03:12 |
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not sure why you didnt get the whole of the second cd dvd2svcd isnt something i actually use
as for the chapters they can be added with the use of an authoring program such as vcd easy as far as i know dvd2svcd doesnt put the chapter points in.
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31. January 2003 @ 07:41 |
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Did you use nero to burn the svcd??? if you did then in nero click file - compilation info. you will see an option to try to fit to disk size so set it to 80mins. that might solve your problem!
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hagler
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20. February 2003 @ 03:47 |
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Hello...I am a new user trying to convert avi to VCD...Dela, I've been following a lot of your advice throughout the forum (very helpful!)...I've installed DVD2SVCD and configured it to use TMPGEnc -- the problem I'm encountering is that when BeSweet tries to execute and encode the audio, it fails and shuts down the program--the screen says initializing and just hangs--then gives me the dreaded "illegal operation performed". MadPlay goes through it's routine successfully and then BeSweet gives me the problem....Can you please give me advice on this.--also, will this process be much faster than just using TMPGEnc by itself????
I've tried using TMPGEnc by itself and just load in the avi file and use tooLame for the audio Layer II....but this seems to take forever to encode..the movie was only 30% complete and had been running for over 16 hours already...Please help...this forum is great and thanks in advance for the help.
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20. February 2003 @ 07:15 |
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I cant answer the BeSweet problem sorry, as for the TMPGEnc long processing problem, how long is the movie and what are you trying to convert to?
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FIXIT
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20. February 2003 @ 07:18 |
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pc specs would be helpful too :)
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20. February 2003 @ 07:22 |
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He already told me on another thread --- 650 Mhz Athlon processor and 25 GB of Hard Disk free space and 128mb of RAM --- not great but its fine for what hes trying to do!
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hagler
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20. February 2003 @ 07:28 |
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PC specs are correct--thanks Dela...
The movie is the first part of the movie (1 of 2) and is about 60 minutes....I'm trying to convert to VCD (mpeg1)---is using TMPGEnc by itself a viable solution or should I try to work out DVD2SVCD?
on the DVD2SVCD problem..can you substitute BeSweet with another audio encoder in DVD2SVCD or do you have to go with BeSweet?
Thanks again
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20. February 2003 @ 07:37 |
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Dont use DVD2SVCD unless you have something like ac3 audio or something unsupported by TMPGEnc. I use DVD2SVCD with CCE SP and wouldn't use it if i was using TMPGEnc as my encoder! You mentioned a problem with how long it takes to convert to VCD and i can tell you 16 hours is wayyyy too long!!. I would cancel it if I were you, click settings and click the advanced tab. Tick the box beside source range. A new little box should open but if it doesnt, then double click source range. Click move to start frame and click "set start frame" click move to end frame and click "set end frame". Click ok and try encoding again and see if it will go any faster!
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FIXIT
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20. February 2003 @ 07:40 |
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I personally always use tmpgenc on its own for this, with toolame as the external audio encoder and ssrc as the external sampling rate convertor, on my previous machine P3 450mhz an average 90 min film would take approx 10 to 12 hours total. Current pc a 90 min film takes about 90 mins to do ( athlon xp 2100+), this is with the quality setting set to HIGH in my experience the Highest quality setting doubles the encoding times but doesnt give much of a picture improvement, this may be why its taking so long, check the settings.
DVD2SVCD uses the tmpgenc encoder anyway unless you have $2000 for ccesp so it wont make things any faster
Oh and one other thing get virtual dub from the downloads section and load the file into it to see if you get a warning about VBR audio?
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hagler
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20. February 2003 @ 09:24 |
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FIXIT....what is ssrc?? external sampling rate convertor?? I have not heard this mentioned before....Do you recommend using this and if so, how and where do I go about using it??
Also, what would a warning about VBR audio in Virtual Dub tell me?? Please explain..thank you.
Also...I should change to just HIGH quality instead of HIGHEST quality--correct? I did have the setting at HIGHEST quality.
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FIXIT
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20. February 2003 @ 09:31 |
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ssrc is a seperate sampling rate convertor to convert the audio to 44.1 khz. its available for download from this site,
VBR audio causes major headaches when converting avi to mpeg i inadvertantly encoded an avi with Variable bitrate audio when i did this the video played back for the standard time 90 mins and the audio was spread over 3 hours, took a long time to encode too, not many programs can handle vbr audio but virtual dub will allow you to extract the audio to an uncompressed wav file which you can use in tmpgenc, and yes use high quality (slow) not highest Quality (very slow)
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hagler
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20. February 2003 @ 09:50 |
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Just to get this straight....I will extract the audio with Virtual Dub, then place that wav file in one of the settings in TMPGEnc (which setting? as the audio file I assume?)..keep tooLame.exe as the audio encoder..and use ssrc (which setting points to ssrc in TMPGEnc?)?
Can you explain the steps you go through one last time...sorry if I'm repeating....your help is greatly appreciated---just want to get this thing to work finally!!
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FIXIT
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20. February 2003 @ 10:03 |
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Ok ill have to do this from memory because im encoding right now :P
First open virtual dub and open the avi file in the audio settings check full processing mode, and also coversion should be set to 44.1khz and compression should be set to NO COMPRESSION (PCM) then go to FILE / SAVE WAV let virtual dub do its stuff and the close it
now in tmpgenc look for the enviromental settings under the options tab under audio engine you should allready have set toolame as the mpeg 1 audio layer 2 encoder, at the bottom it also says sampling frequency convertor select USE EXTERNAL PROGRAM and browse for the folder you saved ssrc in and use the ssrc exe.
now load your video into the main tmgenc window as normal and then load the wav created with virtual dub into the audio source field load your vcd template set the quality to HIGH QUALITY (SLOW)
set up all other settings as necessary then hit the start button, if you get stuck ask again, ill help as much as i can,
video encoding on a 600 mhz machine is gonna take a while but it shouldnt take anywhere near 16 hours for 60 mins of footage .
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hagler
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20. February 2003 @ 10:09 |
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Many Thanks!! I'll let you know how this worked out tomorrow.....
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hagler
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21. February 2003 @ 03:52 |
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Excellent!! so far so good, fixit...
I had the movie in 2 avi's -- 60 minutes of footage took a little over 4 hrs. to encode and the other 49 minutes took about 3.5 hours..that's about what you should expect I would say..I have a couple of questions (I'm sure that's not a suprise..ha-ha)
1) In the Setting in TMPGEnc, I set the aspect ratio: 16:9 525 line (NTSC)..this should always be the setting, correct?
2) I now have a 615mb file and a 503mb file--is there anyway to test play these files before I burn them? (I'm waiting for my CD-RW's to arrive before I burn..my DVD only supports CD-RW)
3)What do you personally use to burn your mpeg's? I've read the guide to burn with Nero.....I've also read a guide on Ulead....it says Ulead is better for adding chapters--is this true? Do you then add chapters with Ulead and re-save the file and then burn with Nero?? I'm not familiar....What do you recommend?
4)What is the recommended limit on the size of an mpeg that you should put onto a 74 min. CD? 700mb?
5)If this was one large avi file, how would you split it up into two CD's? or even three CD's?
This is done when you burn?
--Once again, thanks for your time and patience...and your excellent advice!! You've already helped me greatly and maybe one day I'll be able to help you- when I'm more experienced with this stuff..
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FIXIT
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21. February 2003 @ 04:22 |
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Nice to see it worked, the aspect ratio depends on your source file is it 16X9 or 4x3 pal or ntsc only you will know :)
The files should play with media player without any problems!!
I use nero to burn as vcd without chapters, but if i want chapters in the movie i use the excellent VCDEASY , it will add the chapter points to the video , build the cd images and even burn them to cd for you
i prefer to keep the filesize to under 650 mb but 700 is possible (i have managed 715 with over burn enabled on my writer:)) but thats with 80 min cdr's
to split file i recommend DVTOOL, tmpgenc can split the file too but tends to screw things up
oh and check your personal message;)
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hagler
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21. February 2003 @ 04:55 |
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One last question and I'll be ready to do more research (and leave you alone).....Is there an easy way to check the aspect ratio of the source file- just to make sure--is it listed in properties of the file?
Also, about adding chapters, you can add chapters from an avi correct? You don't need to rip from a DVD in order to add chapters..do you? I've read something about finding the .ifo file when adding chapters...?
VCDEasy will add chapters from an avi, encoded to mpeg1 (VCD)-as we just did--correct?
Thank you for the personal message info....
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FIXIT
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21. February 2003 @ 05:12 |
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dvd video has ifo files avi doesnt so the only thing you can really do is set your own chapter points when i do it i usually just place chapters every 5 to 7 mins, VCD easy takes the mpeg file you created with TMPGENC and builds bin/ cue image files of the completed disk then burns these image files to cd, If your writer isnt compatible then the bin cue files can be burned with nero, the latest version of vcd easy has its own media player which allows you to place chapter points by visually checking where you want them on the video,
as for the aspect ratio there is know way to determine it from an avi file as far as i know but just by watching it you should be able to tell, 4X3 is almost a square picture 16X9 will be stretched acroos the width of the screen and squashed from top to bottom,
ntsc or pal!! well most ntsc movies are 29 frames per second pal is always 24 (rough figures) if you can play the file in media player 6.4 (comes with win 98) right click on the file in media player when its playing it will tell you the frame rate in the properties window. to be totally honest this doesnt really matter too much as the encoded video will be either pal or ntsc depending on what template you used.
a long winded answer I know but i hope it helps lol :)
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hagler
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21. February 2003 @ 05:43 |
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You've helped me greatly!!!! Much appreciated--I'll keep you posted!
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