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30. June 2006 @ 07:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If you only have a passkey 1, you shoudl only need to plug everything in and go.

What firmware is your DS?
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For some reason It went in both ways
That must be a crap CF card then, anyway if you hold the front of the M3 towards you, the CF should go in with it's back facing you (if yu can what way is the back on that CF)
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30. June 2006 @ 08:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
so the back of my cf card is on the side of the M3 that has the label? When I take a game out after I turn on my DS it freezes and doesn't turn any colors. That means firmware 1, right?

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2GB Patriot DDR 400, Audigy 2 ZS gamer, 400GB SATA RAID 0
games Im looking forward to: bioshock, SSBB, enemy territory quake wars, halo 3
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30. June 2006 @ 08:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I assume your doing that in Pictochat, in which case, yes that is firmware 1 so the Passkey1 should work.
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so the back of my cf card is on the side of the M3 that has the label
Yes.
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30. June 2006 @ 08:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
alright, so I dont need to do anything with the passkey except make sure its there? Do I need a game card in it?

X2 3800, A8n deluxe motherboard, 7800GT, Xion 2 case
2GB Patriot DDR 400, Audigy 2 ZS gamer, 400GB SATA RAID 0
games Im looking forward to: bioshock, SSBB, enemy territory quake wars, halo 3
currently playing: command and conquer 3, supreme commander, counter strike, shivering isles
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30. June 2006 @ 08:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yes, an original game is needed.

Also, can you just confirm that you are doing the firmware test in pictochat, as you havn't made that clear yet.
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When I take a game out after I turn on my DS it freezes
It will freeze on any firmware, it is only when in the top pictochat room where it would change colour (or freeze on FW1).
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30. June 2006 @ 08:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
yeah, I just tried it again in pictochat and its firmware 1. So I insert any DS game into the Passkey and just use M3 manager to transfer games? Thanks, I think I got it. Ill go look for my card reader and try it out now.

X2 3800, A8n deluxe motherboard, 7800GT, Xion 2 case
2GB Patriot DDR 400, Audigy 2 ZS gamer, 400GB SATA RAID 0
games Im looking forward to: bioshock, SSBB, enemy territory quake wars, halo 3
currently playing: command and conquer 3, supreme commander, counter strike, shivering isles
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4. July 2006 @ 11:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
in terms of media capabilities for the supercard and m3...
i havent really heard anyone say that they use for music or videos and stuff..

is it feasible to do so *mp3s mpg/avi files* ... and how does it fare out once on the ds...
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4. July 2006 @ 12:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
niether the M3 or Supercard have the ability to play MPG or AVI files.
To play videos on either of these you must first convert the video to the appropriate format.

The M3 has 3 different ways of playing video, using it's GBA video software, it's DS video software, or Moonshell.

The GBA video, to be honest, is crap, but can be played on GBA's.
The DS video is much better quality, but still does not quite match up to Moonshells qulity.
Moonshell has the best quality of the three, but file sizes can be quite high for the best quality.

The supercard has 2 ways of playing video, using GBA and using Moonshell.

the GBA playback was a ripped version of the M3's old GBAMPv2 player, and is extremly poor quality, even more worse than that of the M3s GBA video.
Moonshell is pretty much the same quality as with the M3, but has to be downloaded seperatly, where as the M3 has it's own version of Moonshell which is included in the firmware.

Both devices use Moonshell for MP3 playback, the M3 does have it's own music playback system, but requires the music to be converted first, and is not worth using.
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4. July 2006 @ 20:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
so video and music wise is the m3 still better because of its compatability with both nds and gba games?

i mean if the video and music is equally as good on a supercard i could see myself just settling for that for the time being..
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5. July 2006 @ 00:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I would not know how well the supercard plays video as I never had a supercard that was worth putitng video on,.

But the M3 is better at playing GBA games than the supercard, and it saves alot more battery than the supercard, which obviously allows you to watch more video before the battery runs out.
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5. July 2006 @ 10:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I forgot to ask this but say I "back up" a game that is in Japaneese. Is there a way to get a patch and use something like IPS to translate it?

X2 3800, A8n deluxe motherboard, 7800GT, Xion 2 case
2GB Patriot DDR 400, Audigy 2 ZS gamer, 400GB SATA RAID 0
games Im looking forward to: bioshock, SSBB, enemy territory quake wars, halo 3
currently playing: command and conquer 3, supreme commander, counter strike, shivering isles
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5. July 2006 @ 10:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Not currently, but there are people working on it, I am currently waiting for Jump Super Stars to be translated, they have done the menu and the tutorial which proves it can be done, just need to be patient now :-)

Really wish the game Bleach was translated, have no idea what i was doing on that game ¬_¬

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11. July 2006 @ 07:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
my new card reader just arrived and I tried it out and everything is working. I tried metroid hunters with no trim rom, fast startup, 1x, and software reset all checked. It worked pretty good but slowed down a couple times during intense action. What are the best settings to transfer with?

X2 3800, A8n deluxe motherboard, 7800GT, Xion 2 case
2GB Patriot DDR 400, Audigy 2 ZS gamer, 400GB SATA RAID 0
games Im looking forward to: bioshock, SSBB, enemy territory quake wars, halo 3
currently playing: command and conquer 3, supreme commander, counter strike, shivering isles
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11. July 2006 @ 07:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Like you said, it slowed down, so instead of using 1xDMA, use 4xDMA, this will speed up how quickly the game is read from the card.

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11. July 2006 @ 07:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I got a problem. I tried to play metroid again (I didn't retransfer it) but it just goes to a white screen and freezes. what could the problem be?

X2 3800, A8n deluxe motherboard, 7800GT, Xion 2 case
2GB Patriot DDR 400, Audigy 2 ZS gamer, 400GB SATA RAID 0
games Im looking forward to: bioshock, SSBB, enemy territory quake wars, halo 3
currently playing: command and conquer 3, supreme commander, counter strike, shivering isles
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11. July 2006 @ 08:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
if your patching the ROM again, make sure it is a clean, unpatched ROM, or it will not work.

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11. July 2006 @ 08:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I just left it as it is when it worked before and its not working now

X2 3800, A8n deluxe motherboard, 7800GT, Xion 2 case
2GB Patriot DDR 400, Audigy 2 ZS gamer, 400GB SATA RAID 0
games Im looking forward to: bioshock, SSBB, enemy territory quake wars, halo 3
currently playing: command and conquer 3, supreme commander, counter strike, shivering isles
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11. July 2006 @ 08:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Strange for it to just stop working, try copying over a clean ROM with the following settings:

Fast Boot, 4xDMA, Trim ROM, No Software Reset.

I think having software reset enabled on games that use Nintendo Wifi can cause this to happen.

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11. July 2006 @ 08:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
thats weird. I just tried reformating my card and transfering the exact same rom with the exact same settings and its working. I tried new mario and tetris earlier and tetris worked but new mario didn't. But metroid started screwing up after I tried mario and it didn't work and it autorestored when I turned on my DS. Do you think the problem could have been caused by the mario rom as my game worked after the rom and save were deleted? If I turn off autosave do I have to do anyhting special after I use the ingame save function?

X2 3800, A8n deluxe motherboard, 7800GT, Xion 2 case
2GB Patriot DDR 400, Audigy 2 ZS gamer, 400GB SATA RAID 0
games Im looking forward to: bioshock, SSBB, enemy territory quake wars, halo 3
currently playing: command and conquer 3, supreme commander, counter strike, shivering isles

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11. July 2006 @ 08:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I never turned off autosave, but I do know you need to use software reset and then backup the save manually somehow.

There was a problem with an older version of gamemanager that screwed up roms if you did them in bulk on it, but I thought that was fixed.

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11. July 2006 @ 08:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
do you think my M3 could have come with the older version? is there a patch I can download to fix it?

X2 3800, A8n deluxe motherboard, 7800GT, Xion 2 case
2GB Patriot DDR 400, Audigy 2 ZS gamer, 400GB SATA RAID 0
games Im looking forward to: bioshock, SSBB, enemy territory quake wars, halo 3
currently playing: command and conquer 3, supreme commander, counter strike, shivering isles
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11. July 2006 @ 08:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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do you think my M3 could have come with the older version
Of course ¬_¬ the first thing you should do when getting any flash cart is download the latest software for it, they are constantly beiing updated.

get the latest download form http://www.dualscene.net

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11. July 2006 @ 09:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I just downloaded 3.14 (I had 3.0). Should that fix all my problems?

X2 3800, A8n deluxe motherboard, 7800GT, Xion 2 case
2GB Patriot DDR 400, Audigy 2 ZS gamer, 400GB SATA RAID 0
games Im looking forward to: bioshock, SSBB, enemy territory quake wars, halo 3
currently playing: command and conquer 3, supreme commander, counter strike, shivering isles
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11. July 2006 @ 09:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I installed 3.14 and transfered mario but mario still isn't working. Metroid is working. The problem is probably with the mario rom?

X2 3800, A8n deluxe motherboard, 7800GT, Xion 2 case
2GB Patriot DDR 400, Audigy 2 ZS gamer, 400GB SATA RAID 0
games Im looking forward to: bioshock, SSBB, enemy territory quake wars, halo 3
currently playing: command and conquer 3, supreme commander, counter strike, shivering isles
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11. July 2006 @ 10:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
V22 is actually the newest version, be sure to upgrade the M3 firmware with the included firmware update as well though.

From what I remember, mario didn't work untill v20 was released.

heres a direct link to the download:
http://www.dualscene.net/downloads/M3/M3_V2.2.rar

For help updating your M3 check out my guide:
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/364264

 
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