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24. October 2007 @ 10:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
damn, thats a nice overclock. and yea, I get it. I already knew that, so just trust windows, not the i8kfangui utility.
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24. October 2007 @ 10:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
whats the difference between these two and which would have a better overclock potential? apparantly the higher clock speed processor is cheaper.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115030

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115004
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24. October 2007 @ 11:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The E6400 is an old CPU and only has 2MB Cache, the E6550 not only has a higher initial clock speed, it has more cache, and it's a far better CPU to overclock. Plus, as you say it's cheaper. The E6400 is more expensive because it's an older model that needs clearing. You see that a lot.
Don't pay more just because you think it'll bag you a better product!

On that note, use the E6550 with that list of components rather than the 6400. The motherboard you've chosen is discontinued, so you'll never be able to get one I don't think. The best replacement seems to be this one
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128050
The RAM may be good, but if you're overclocking, go with this instead:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145034
Ask yourself, Do you really want Directx10?
The card you've chosen is good for a DX10 card, but this one
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102075
will be a far better performer for the same money, if you only use DX9.
The rest of the components you've chosen are fine. I personally think there are better coolers out there for the money than the CNPS9500, but that's kind of personal preference. If you're going for a big overclock, there's really no equal to this pair:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835109140
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185006



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24. October 2007 @ 13:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
About the RAM, I would go with this one instead.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146565

Sam is right, the E6400 is just more expensive because it is a discontinued product and it didn't receive the price drops. I would go with either an E6550, or an E6750.
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24. October 2007 @ 16:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ok, I changed around some of the parts and have this setup now
motherboard- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128050

processor- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115030

RAM- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146565

Hard Drive x2- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148262

video card- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102075

Case- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119137

Power Supply- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153052

DVD Burner- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135156

Thermal Compound- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835100007

Vista- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116200

Basically, I had forgotten to include Vista earlier and I changed around the RAM, Motherboard, CPU and I'm going to stick with the Stock CPU fan because I was over the $1000 price limit. How good of an overclock could I get with the stock cooler?
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24. October 2007 @ 17:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Very good, but I would advise you to get a aftermarket cooler, it will improve things MUCH more. Also don't get Vista, stick with XP, which is free if you know what I mean...
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24. October 2007 @ 17:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well, I might get the motherboard and CPU in the future but the person that these specs is for is for one of my friends who insists that he has vista. I have tried to talk him out of it and told him about "getting xp free" but he wants Vista. BTW, what overclock could I get with the stock fan?

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24. October 2007 @ 19:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Trust me, you don't want to bother. Arctic silver certainly isn't going to help you out that much, because the stock cooler is just so poop.
If you want to overclock a decent amount, you should always get a proper cooler.
If you're on a budget, get a Freezer 7 Pro, if not get a Thermalright Ultra 120.



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24. October 2007 @ 19:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well then get Vista free. I don't want to see people paying for that POS OS. An Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro(this is what I use) will do a good job, and it's only 22 bucks.
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24. October 2007 @ 19:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Too true. Trouble is if he's that closed minded he'll probably want Windows Update...



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24. October 2007 @ 21:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well, Knowing him, he WILL do something stupid that will mess up his "activation". I told him about patching it and he said that he wants to buy it and buy Halo 2 with it so he can play that along with it online. I'm really just gonna build what he wants me to, heck, I get paid. Its his money, he can buy what he wants. I was smart and bought Vista Home Premiun with my Dell laptop for $10 during that express upgrade thing. I've probably installed it a year ago and still got 30 days of activation left (wink, wink). Ill look into the Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro and talk to him and see if he's ok with the setup (This is only his first computer, in an year, hes talking to me about building another PC with 4GB RAM, Quad core and SLI on the new Nvidia 9800s, I seriously think hes retarded considering that he wants to do this in a $1200 price limit)
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24. October 2007 @ 21:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Not to sound pedantic, but what's wrong with Xbox Live? Hehe.

Those specs for 1200 dollars? Not in a year's time, not ever I don't suspect.



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24. October 2007 @ 22:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
For him and Xbox Live:
1. Too expensive, $50 a year (lol, BS)
2. Controllers too hard (Its called SmartJoy)
3. Don't have XBOX (get one, way cheaper)
4. I can't do as much (Let me reformat your existing Pentium D 3.2/1GB/6200/160GB)
5. I just want a PC that can beat all my friends (me included, jealousy)
6. I want to be able to play all the new computer games in Max. (whatever setup, ill give you 2ish years to be able to do that)

What I say:
All the new PC games u want are M rated that u won't like or ur parents won't let u play (besides Halo b/c i dont think they know or care about that one, its not that M, and with how you use a computer (leave a game of Halo on for hours, an open invitation to hacking,) you will mess it up in a blink of an eye. You will also NEVER use that much power.
If you had $1000 to spend on any website to buy/build a computer, what would you get? unfortunately it must include a 64bit version of Vista, a Core 2 and a video card that can run Halo 2 well.
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24. October 2007 @ 22:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Halo 2 for PC is a POS, bloated crap piece of software. If it can run WELL on an Xbox with a 733 Mhz celeron CPU, and 64 MB of ram, I should damn well NOT need a fu**ing high end PC to run the god damn thing on max!

God I hate it so much lol.
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24. October 2007 @ 22:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Wow, no offense but the guy sounds like a total retard.

My response:
1. Think about how many hours you'll play the game in a year. If you play it for an hour a day, 5 days a week, you'll rack up 260 hours in a year, making each entire hour of gamepkay a mere 19 cents.

2. I don't find FPS with a controller as easy, but then I haven't had the experience.

3. Well at least when you realise that Halo 2 is the same as the original xbox game (including the quality of the graphics) you won't be disappointed. Or will you?

The last three annoy me so much I'm not even answering them.
Take your current Pentium D, put a better PSU and Graphics card in, and add a gig of RAM. Then in the year so's time change the motherboard and CPU, keep the Graphics card!

My PC runs Halo 2 fine on max, except it doesn't, because you can't have max. The main reason for getting it for most people is the higher resolution (let's face it, that's the only thing that's changed) and yet it's one of very few current titles that don't support 2560x1600. The only games that still don't support that res are games by EA, but they don't count because EA have intentionally removed widescreen support from all their games.



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25. October 2007 @ 11:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well, when I built his Pentium D in the past, he only had a $400 price limit which, because of that I had to use a Motherboard that used DDR RAM and an AGP video card which makes upgrading expensive. I told him about playing on insane resolutions and that you won't be able to see a difference and he thought I was stupid. I mean, come on, the monitor he has is a crappy 15 inch LCD with a max resolution of 1024x768. Its gonna be hard for a 12 year old kid to pay for all this himself (His dad only covers $500 and with what he wants, I'd say he would have to pay like $1000) If you had $1000 to build a PC, what would you build?
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25. October 2007 @ 11:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ah well, that is a bit young to know much about PCs, I grant you.
To be honest, the higher resolution the better, I'm with him on that, but on a 15" screen you won't be going very far up the scale!



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25. October 2007 @ 11:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
What PC would you build with $1000?
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25. October 2007 @ 11:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
For a games PC, I could list a load of components, but in truth, it's no gaming PC with a 15" monitor. I'd include a better monitor in the price...



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25. October 2007 @ 11:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Don't include a monitor because I think he will be taking the monitor thats with his dads PC that does a Max Resolution of 1280x1024, If u truly want to include a monitor, go for it.
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28. October 2007 @ 00:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ill look at that and may change around some parts to account for $100 Vista. Another question I got about my laptop, Its an E1505 with the battery very lightly used. Now, whenever I set it to charge, it says Total battery charge 99% and primary battery charge 98% (I only have 1 battery) and the Approximate charge time fluctuates. It sometimes reaches 100%, but right now its not. Should I discharge the battery completely and see if it reaches 100%? This battery is still under warranty so should I just replace it with Dell?
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28. October 2007 @ 08:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If it is a Lithium-Ion battery(it definitely is), then discharging it will ruin it. The best way to take care of these is to have them fully charged at all times. IT doesn't have a "memory", so you don't have to discharge it.
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28. October 2007 @ 13:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm actually in the process of Discharging it (which did help last time) so I will continue and if that doesn't work then I guess its time for a new battery.
 
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