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dragnandy
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23. December 2007 @ 12:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
wel first i had a 40gb hard drive, but that like stopped working. so my dad took the computer and got a 80gb hard drive, and the guy at the computer place gave him a XP home in the 80gb. then after awhile i got XP pro and i installed it in my old 40gb to see if itll work. and it does.

i think both hard drives have d: as the OS and c: as everythign else. i dont have any recovery partitions, so i will try the program you suggested, partition magic.
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scorpNZ
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23. December 2007 @ 12:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You should be able to pick up a copy of partmagic relatively cheaply 2nd hand,unless you buy new,your OS should reside on C not D.If you don't want to lose xp home in the future you ought to image it to another hdd,you can image an 80GB to a smaller hdd so long as the data does'nt exceed the smaller drives capacity,below is a link if you ever need help with drive imaging,advice is free etc
http://radified.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl

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dragnandy
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24. December 2007 @ 18:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
after i used the partition magic, i merged my two drives together. then after that, it said that windows had to restart so i restarted it. but after that, i got an error on the boot up menu, and it says something about an error code 100 something. and it froze after that, it said press any button to continue, but it just froze there. so now i cant even access my hard drive.

anybody have an idea on how to solve the problem?


edit: it says something with the partition table is wrong or messed up.

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 24. December 2007 @ 18:35

scorpNZ
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24. December 2007 @ 22:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I've googled but it could be any one of a number of issues causing it,i hope you did'nt attempt to merge hard drives but instead merged partitions.

you could download fdisk & attempt a chkdsk or partition recovery
http://www.fdisk.com/fdisk/

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dragnandy
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24. December 2007 @ 23:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
yes i mean partitions. c: and d: together. ill take a look at the link. how do i do a chkdsk or a partition recovery if i cannot even access my hard drive?
dragnandy
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26. December 2007 @ 00:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
also, i got my hard drive with the pin covers facing the right way so its set to master, and my other set to slave. but when i run it, the hard drive boots normally but i cannot find my other hard drive. i looked in the my computers, but it wasnt there. am i doing anything wrong?
scorpNZ
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26. December 2007 @ 03:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The quickest way would be to reset it as master & reinstall the OS from scratch,assuming the drive has'nt failed & cables are inserted correctly.

admin tools-computer management-disk manager
is how you should be able to see the drive in the config you have now,if it's not there it can be only 2 reasons,the jumper settings are incorrect (slave = no jumper needed on the slave hdd) or the drive has failed

partition magic & fdisk are bootable & are live cd's so put it in your dvd drive & reboot, you'll have to reset the slave as master,if you have an xp disk you could attempt a repair using the recovery console the same way,after you've selected R type help, then hit enter for options,start by using chkdsk,then if that does'nt fix it attempt fxmbr then reboot,if that don't work attempt fixboot if that failed to do anything reformatt reinstall

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 26. December 2007 @ 12:41

ddp
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26. December 2007 @ 12:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
does the bios see the slave drive?
dragnandy
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26. December 2007 @ 14:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
how do i check the bios?? i never really learned that yet.
ddp
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26. December 2007 @ 15:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
if a clone(no name) computer then press del at the post screen before windows launches. if a name brand then can be f1 or something like that. should show on post screen anyhow.
scorpNZ
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26. December 2007 @ 22:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Was it the 40GB you attempted to merge if so,What's the make of your computer.
dragnandy
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27. December 2007 @ 01:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ok i got the slave drive to work and stuff with the master. but afterwards i tried to get the two drives to merge this time because last time i forgot to apply the changes so i think messed it up. but it got an error again and i lost like most of my movies (i used one of my d: partitions for movies), but luckly most of them were backed up. so now that my d partition is pretty much empty so i decided to

-move all my stuff on the partition onto an external
-then deleting the d: partition

but i cant figure out how i can install the OS to the last parition (c: drive has no OS) without clearing all the information. would i have to make a new partition and install the OS there, then trying to merge those partitions?

and i also noticed that one of my partitions, it says it has around 10gb used, but theres nothing in the drive. i deleted all the files and cleared everything, but theres still 10gb used when i check.

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 27. December 2007 @ 02:12

scorpNZ
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27. December 2007 @ 02:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Got some bad news for you D drive was a recovery partition after all.

Answer the following question
The 80GB has xp home installed on it YES ??
Is it ok or is it the one that's stuffed up.??


If the 80GB is stuffed up & you have no xp home disk to reinstall the OS or any recovery disks here's what you do to get it up & running,do not use the xp prof disk on it unless it's a retail version,if the xp prof disk is OEM, you neeed an imaging software instead like ghost 2003 onwards or acronis,you then set the 40GB as master whch has the activated copy of XP PROF,you then set the 80GB as slave & clone the 40GB to the 80GB,after you've cloned the drive & they've both restarted,it'll say detected new hardware,reboot computer,once it's loaded again shutdown comp,remove IDE & power from 40GB,do not reattach as a slave or master,you can use that as a backup,instead set the 80GB as master & away you go.No buying partition magic was'nt a waste of money you need both part magic & an imaging software for future use,it'll be the best money you ever spent on any software & will get you out of many a pickle when you realise you need backups of everything..*winks*

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dragnandy
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27. December 2007 @ 19:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
well i have windows XP home installation cd, but if i use it, would it wipe out all my data?
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28. December 2007 @ 00:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Set it as master & insert xp disk & attempt a non destructive recovery,if the partition tables are'nt totally screwed it may be able to repair it & keep the data intact,personally your better off saving any data you want & do a full reformat & reinstall

if you can't get to the data you want to keep thru the other hdd set as master then a non destructive recovery is your only hope, otherwise it's reformat time & invest in an external hdd or better still two of em.
dragnandy
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29. December 2007 @ 00:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
if i cannot use a that, and if i make a new partition and install the OS on that, will i still be able to access my files? and how come when i have my slave drive connected, i cant use any programs off it when it was previously installed on the slave?
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scorpNZ
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29. December 2007 @ 13:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Here's what i'd do to attempt a correction of the problem drive,however before i continue i need to know the partition layout of the harddisk & sizes,when viewed from computer management or from PM (PM = partition magic)

1-Because of corruption i have no way of knowing if any partitions can be created if the tables are mucked up,this means PM will not let you make or create partitions,so if partition D is before partition C,can you create a data partition of say 3GB after Partition C,there's a button on PM's left column that lets you create a data partition,you can do this from either the good hdd with the installed version of PM, or better still set the faulty drive as master & leave the PM disk in the drive & do a live boot from CD,to create a partition in DOS,which would be a better way & less chance of loss of data.

2-if the above is a success,this is what i'm aiming for,if there is no partiton D after C,create a large enough partition to incorporate any music files,emails etc that you want to keep,this essentially means you can have two choices,do a non destructive repair of C which leaves data files intact (the idea behind a created data partition after C is if the repair goes wrong you'll still have access to the data you want this includes a reformat but only reformatting partiton C,loosing the data after a reformat of C won't matter since the files are store on another partition)

3-If poss transfer as much data like music,emails to the partition C of your good drive before commencing operations.


4-Main question, after transferring as much of the wanted data to the good drive,how much more space do you require for music files,emails,photo's etc,forget about attempting to save installed software

5-However if all your attempting to do is save is installed software like nero or anydvd etc & not music files or photo's,don't waste time just either do a repair or reformatt with the xp disk


EDIT: By not using the "apply changes" button then nothing will happen & no changes will be made comp will be as before you attempted anything

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 29. December 2007 @ 21:49

 
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