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Micro sd capacity on R4DS
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defmnowxy
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11. August 2008 @ 21:44 |
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u r a newbie because the R4-III reads micro sd hc cards which can hold up to 16gb for a single.so yea.
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helldozer
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18. August 2008 @ 17:08 |
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I have question. I just bought the R4 that doesn't support 4GB SDHC. I see that there is clone R4, named R4 SDHC.
http://www.r4sdhc.com/soft/27-en.htm
Can you use the kernel from the clone, on the original R4 to get it to accept the 4GB SDHC, or is that a hardware limitation?
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Helldozer
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joliverio
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19. August 2008 @ 02:51 |
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Originally posted by helldozer:
I have question. I just bought the R4 that doesn't support 4GB SDHC. I see that there is clone R4, named R4 SDHC.
http://www.r4sdhc.com/soft/27-en.htm
Can you use the kernel from the clone, on the original R4 to get it to accept the 4GB SDHC, or is that a hardware limitation?
Thanks,
Helldozer
The site you mention seem to be the original new R4 with SDHC, because is so similar as the original R4, including the product packaging...
If I understood well; you have the original R4 model generation 1, that do NOT support SDHC, I guess it is a hardware limitation; you will never make this product being compatible with any SDHC memory. I think still can find 4GB SD (not SDHC) memory card but I don't know whether can really work on a standard R4, try more information before make any decision
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snorlax22
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19. August 2008 @ 09:49 |
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Originally posted by helldozer:
I have question. I just bought the R4 that doesn't support 4GB SDHC. I see that there is clone R4, named R4 SDHC.
Yes, that is correct. they are two completely different products made by different people. I would assume the firmware for one will not work on the other and vice versa, but since all it involves is a downlaod and try, you should try it. I don't think it can muck anything up permanantly. Let us know.
Originally posted by joliverio:
I think still can find 4GB SD (not SDHC) memory card
Good luck with that. If you find any, buy them all. I don't think you will have any success, but you might.
--Original spring-loaded R4 with 2GB Class 2 Kingston
--M3 Real with 8GB Class 6 A-Data (kickgaming.com kicks butt)
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FLUID36
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20. August 2008 @ 11:40 |
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Originally posted by AGE1039:
I found out my problem: the Kernel. Apparently there are many R4DS sites out there, and after some thorough digging, I found the right Kernel for the SDHC cartridge.
HI AGE1039 JUST BOUGHT THE SAME CARD WITH THE SAME IDENTIFICATION MARKS I E: R4 SDHC ON BOX AND CARTRIDGE, AND HAVING THE SAME PROBLEM NOT BEING ABLE TO GET THE RIGHT KERNEL, YOU DID SAY THAT YOU FOUND THE RIGHT SITE TO DOWNLOAD FROM ,COULD YOU OR ANYONE ELSE HELP
CHEERS
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defmnowxy
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23. August 2008 @ 17:30 |
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i bought one of those sdhc 1's bout 3 weeks ago mine came with the disc to install it.if anyone needs the kernel just ask me.
and yes i tried using the other r4ds kernel but it doesnt work.
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AGE1039
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23. August 2008 @ 17:39 |
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Originally posted by FLUID36:
Originally posted by AGE1039:
I found out my problem: the Kernel. Apparently there are many R4DS sites out there, and after some thorough digging, I found the right Kernel for the SDHC cartridge.
HI AGE1039 JUST BOUGHT THE SAME CARD WITH THE SAME IDENTIFICATION MARKS I E: R4 SDHC ON BOX AND CARTRIDGE, AND HAVING THE SAME PROBLEM NOT BEING ABLE TO GET THE RIGHT KERNEL, YOU DID SAY THAT YOU FOUND THE RIGHT SITE TO DOWNLOAD FROM ,COULD YOU OR ANYONE ELSE HELP
CHEERS
The kernel that finally worked for me I found at:
www.R4sdhc.com
But now I try to go to that site and I get an error message. odd.
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FLUID36
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24. August 2008 @ 09:16 |
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Originally posted by defmnowxy:
i bought one of those sdhc 1's bout 3 weeks ago mine came with the disc to install it.if anyone needs the kernel just ask me.
and yes i tried using the other r4ds kernel but it doesnt work.
hi i seem to have tried all the sites and probably tried all the kernels , it is just as simple as drag and drop or am i doing something wrong?? i've got the r4sdhc
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defmnowxy
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24. August 2008 @ 18:19 |
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I had the same problem at first cause i didnt copy the _R4_III_.DAT. but heres what you need in the root of of your card. 1._DS_MENU_.DAT 2._DS_MENU.SYS 3._DS_MSHL.NDS 4._R4_III.DAT 5._SYSTEM_ "ALL THAT MUST BE IN THE ROOT OF THE SD(HC) WHICHEVER YOU GOT" Next all this should also be in the _SYSTEM_ folder. 1.EBOOK 2. THEMES 3. CHEAT.DAT 4. GBAFRAME.BMP. <If you have all that it should work without a problem.
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defmnowxy
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24. August 2008 @ 18:19 |
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I had the same problem at first cause i didnt copy the _R4_III_.DAT. but heres what you need in the root of of your card. 1._DS_MENU_.DAT 2._DS_MENU.SYS 3._DS_MSHL.NDS 4._R4_III.DAT 5._SYSTEM_ "ALL THAT MUST BE IN THE ROOT OF THE SD(HC) WHICHEVER YOU GOT" Next all this should also be in the _SYSTEM_ folder. 1.EBOOK 2. THEMES 3. CHEAT.DAT 4. GBAFRAME.BMP. <If you have all that it should work without a problem.
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24. August 2008 @ 21:07 |
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castlend
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24. August 2008 @ 23:29 |
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4GB sdhc worked for my R4, I brought it from here[url=http://www.techzo.co.uk][/url]
They sell the memory cards really cheap. I'm thinking of getting a another one soon.
Can R4 play mp3 music?
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wiizard
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25. September 2008 @ 12:53 |
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Originally posted by AGE1039:
I found out my problem: the Kernel. Apparently there are many R4DS sites out there, and after some thorough digging, I found the right Kernel for the SDHC cartridge.
Can u post the kernel details or link or SOMETHING that makes 4gb sdHC work pls?
I have just bought 2 4GB SDHC cards and i get the loading... screen everyone talks about.
If u have got ur 4gb sdhc to work PLS post exactly how - y say u found the right kernel and not link to it in your post?
This is a helping forum not a bragging one i believe?
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OK worked it out i think - hopefully this will answer all peoples questions.
There are diff versions of the R4DS - The Original then R4 -II and now R4-III.
The original R4 WILL NOT WORK WITH 4gb SDHC cards.
I BELIEVE the R4III has been made specifically to take the larger sdhc system. Someone posted to place the r4III file in the root etc - this wont work for an original r4ds - i tried it.
There are different updates of firmware still being released for these diff versions so Orig R4 is now up to Kernel 1.18 but via the link i mention below i saw diff releases for diff models inc 1.21 and 3.03 - U need to know which version u have to choose the correct update
it will become clearer if u head to the r4dsl.net site - its in asian language but there is an english link at top of page that will help.
if im not allowed to place links google r4DSL and look for a ".net" address
In a nutshell if u want large capacity like 4gb and up - u need to upgrade to the R4III version - which is what im gonna do now that i bought TWO 4gb cards!
Hope this makes it clear for all.
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castlend
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25. September 2008 @ 15:05 |
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Can u post the kernel details or link or SOMETHING that makes 4gb sdHC work pls?
I have just bought 2 4GB SDHC cards and i get the loading... screen everyone talks about.
If u have got ur 4gb sdhc to work PLS post exactly how - y say u found the right kernel and not link to it in your post?
This is a helping forum not a bragging one i believe?
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OK worked it out i think - hopefully this will answer all peoples questions.
There are diff versions of the R4DS - The Original then R4 -II and now R4-III.
The original R4 WILL NOT WORK WITH 4gb SDHC cards.
I BELIEVE the R4III has been made specifically to take the larger sdhc system. Someone posted to place the r4III file in the root etc - this wont work for an original r4ds - i tried it.
There are different updates of firmware still being released for these diff versions so Orig R4 is now up to Kernel 1.18 but via the link i mention below i saw diff releases for diff models inc 1.21 and 3.03 - U need to know which version u have to choose the correct update
it will become clearer if u head to the r4dsl.net site - its in asian language but there is an english link at top of page that will help.
if im not allowed to place links google r4DSL and look for a ".net" address
In a nutshell if u want large capacity like 4gb and up - u need to upgrade to the R4III version - which is what im gonna do now that i bought TWO 4gb cards!
Hope this makes it clear for all.
Erm I had the loading screen problem.
There are 2 firmwares for the R4DS. One for SD and one for SDHC.
And they can both be found here. http://www.techzo.co.uk
When you get to that link go to software updates.
I have tested this on my R4DS and it solved my loading screen problem.
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snorlax22
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25. September 2008 @ 16:03 |
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--Original spring-loaded R4 with 2GB Class 2 Kingston
--M3 Real with 8GB Class 6 A-Data (kickgaming.com kicks butt)
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castlend
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25. September 2008 @ 16:46 |
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No cigar. That's an HC card if you look at the reviews and go to the manufacturer's Web site.
Like I say, don't think you will find one.
The ones that came with my R4 are Micro SD cards not micro SDHC.
have a look here: techzo.co.uk
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25. September 2008 @ 20:55 |
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Originally posted by snorlax22:
Originally posted by joliverio:
You can find this non-SDHC MicroSD card here for $28.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...0161268
No cigar. That's an HC card if you look at the reviews and go to the manufacturer's Web site.
Like I say, don't think you will find one.
I'm not entirely convinced yet. It does not have the SDHC logo on any of the cards or packaging, most notably, lacking on the 4GB card itself and nowhere on the manufacturer's site (that I noticed) did it mention that the card was SDHC. From the site:
"FILEMATE MicroSD with universal Adapter Kit meets the high capacity standards for video, photo, music, ring tone, and data used in today's digital cameras and MicroSD-enabled devices."
The reviews are mixed citing the card as working in non-SDHC and SDHC devices alike. I don't actually have the card so I can't speak from experience, however.
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joliverio
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26. September 2008 @ 00:27 |
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Originally posted by snorlax22:
Originally posted by joliverio:
You can find this non-SDHC MicroSD card here for $28.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...0161268
No cigar. That's an HC card if you look at the reviews and go to the manufacturer's Web site.
Like I say, don't think you will find one.
Hey; just to make clear that I didn't post this comment about purchasing this card on newegg or whatever.... just modified post using my name
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snorlax22
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26. September 2008 @ 10:54 |
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joliverio you are right of course. nothing meant by any of it. posting among friends. i would buy a 4g nonHC card if I could find one, but I haven't found one on the web that has convinced me it isn't HC.
all on the same team looking for the same thing. it's all good.
--Original spring-loaded R4 with 2GB Class 2 Kingston
--M3 Real with 8GB Class 6 A-Data (kickgaming.com kicks butt)
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snorlax22
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26. September 2008 @ 10:59 |
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--Original spring-loaded R4 with 2GB Class 2 Kingston
--M3 Real with 8GB Class 6 A-Data (kickgaming.com kicks butt)
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wiizard
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30. September 2008 @ 10:56 |
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Originally posted by castlend:
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Can u post the kernel details or link or SOMETHING that makes 4gb sdHC work pls?
I have just bought 2 4GB SDHC cards and i get the loading... screen everyone talks about.
If u have got ur 4gb sdhc to work PLS post exactly how - y say u found the right kernel and not link to it in your post?
This is a helping forum not a bragging one i believe?
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OK worked it out i think - hopefully this will answer all peoples questions.
There are diff versions of the R4DS - The Original then R4 -II and now R4-III.
The original R4 WILL NOT WORK WITH 4gb SDHC cards.
I BELIEVE the R4III has been made specifically to take the larger sdhc system. Someone posted to place the r4III file in the root etc - this wont work for an original r4ds - i tried it.
There are different updates of firmware still being released for these diff versions so Orig R4 is now up to Kernel 1.18 but via the link i mention below i saw diff releases for diff models inc 1.21 and 3.03 - U need to know which version u have to choose the correct update
it will become clearer if u head to the r4dsl.net site - its in asian language but there is an english link at top of page that will help.
if im not allowed to place links google r4DSL and look for a ".net" address
In a nutshell if u want large capacity like 4gb and up - u need to upgrade to the R4III version - which is what im gonna do now that i bought TWO 4gb cards!
Hope this makes it clear for all.
Erm I had the loading screen problem.
There are 2 firmwares for the R4DS. One for SD and one for SDHC.
And they can both be found here. http://www.techzo.co.uk
When you get to that link go to software updates.
I have tested this on my R4DS and it solved my loading screen problem.
Taken from link you recommend:
"All R4's are tested with a 2GB Sandisk MicroSD card."
I was quite clear in talking about 4GB... are u?
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castlend
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30. September 2008 @ 12:16 |
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Taken from link you recommend:
"All R4's are tested with a 2GB Sandisk MicroSD card."
I was quite clear in talking about 4GB... are u?
Sorry I forgot to mention that I tested it with a Sandisk 4GB Micro SDHC card. I'm also getting a 8GB micro SDHC Card and will test it and post back. But I can confirm that a 4GB sandisk SDHC micro card is working with the R4.
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snorlax22
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30. September 2008 @ 14:26 |
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Originally posted by castlend:
I can confirm that a 4GB sandisk SDHC micro card is working with the R4.
I really doubt that you can. But I could be wrong.
I'm quite sure you or others can confirm that an 4g SDHC card works with the 1.19 firmware for the R4 clone.
And if you had one, I'm sure that you could confirm that the 1.18 firmware for the real R4 works with 2g standard microSD cards.
I'm also sure that you will discover that the original R4 does not support HC cards, using the 1.18 firmware, if you don't already know that.
I have not run the 1.19 fake R4 firmware on a HC card in a real R4, nor would I recommend it, but I would be interested in that result from someone brave enough to try.
--Original spring-loaded R4 with 2GB Class 2 Kingston
--M3 Real with 8GB Class 6 A-Data (kickgaming.com kicks butt)
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castlend
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30. September 2008 @ 14:53 |
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I really doubt that you can. But I could be wrong.
I'm quite sure you or others can confirm that an 4g SDHC card works with the 1.19 firmware for the R4 clone.
And if you had one, I'm sure that you could confirm that the 1.18 firmware for the real R4 works with 2g standard microSD cards.
I'm also sure that you will discover that the original R4 does not support HC cards, using the 1.18 firmware, if you don't already know that.
I have not run the 1.19 fake R4 firmware on a HC card in a real R4, nor would I recommend it, but I would be interested in that result from someone brave enough to try.
That isn't a fake firmware. It is an unofficial R4 updated firmware which works on the original R4 and maybe even the clone. I have loads of R4's (Original Ones) and I've done my testing. Yes your correct that the Original R4 doesn't support SDHC. Thats because it wasn't supported in the software not in the hardware. Now that an unofficial update has been released it is fully compatible with the original R4. And yes I am aware that the 1.18 does not support SDHC cards. It will show you the 'Loading Screen'. 1.19 solves all them problems. It's not a fake firmware. Just a group of programmers who got the job done quicker than the official team.
I will post a video tutorial soon. Demonstrating this.
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snorlax22
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30. September 2008 @ 15:30 |
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Terminology. Po-ta-toe, Po-tah-toe.
It is quite real firmware for a fake R4. That better?
The 1.19 firmware is not "unofficial". That implies that it comes from the same source as the original and is perhaps a preliminary release or something. It gives it an air of legitimacy it does not have.
The 1.19 firmware is most definitely not the same product and not the same programming team. It is not "unofficial"- it is something new entirely.
As an aside, the new team of "just a group of programmers" is apparently quite capable of ripping off Web site design. But that is neither here nor there.
--Original spring-loaded R4 with 2GB Class 2 Kingston
--M3 Real with 8GB Class 6 A-Data (kickgaming.com kicks butt)
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