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5. May 2008 @ 19:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i suppose Biostar are OK for Budget quad supporting PC's, we've never really heard of them, i had heard about them about 5 years back, and i think that was when an AMD CPU exploded on one lol. We stick to only gigabyte, Asus, XFX and Foxconn motherboards. We where thinking about look at DFI but none of us have much experience with thses boards, they look pretty good. Have you had any experience with these boards sam?


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5. May 2008 @ 19:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
another thing
ASUS products aren't that bad but not worth it for the price
the real problem is the rma and you can be sure that you are gonna need an rma with asus
i have had 5 ASUS motherboards and 4 of them needed rma
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I haven't personally, but my friend here theonejrs used one for a while and IIRC had good success with it. My housemate Nick uses DFI boards and they're meticulously designed and detailed with very powerful BIOSes but they're not for the average gamer, you really need to know what you're doing - they're picky with connectors and offer loads of options in the BIOS that if used wrongly will cause you more harm than good - take for example the 4V RAM jumper on the NF4 Ultra D. 4V instead of the usual 2.7... Can you say electronmigration? lol

im: You've RMA'ed four and they're not that bad? Two of my three have failed. The third is too young to say yet.



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Originally posted by sammorris:
I haven't personally, but my friend here theonejrs used one for a while and IIRC had good success with it. My housemate Nick uses DFI boards and they're meticulously designed and detailed with very powerful BIOSes but they're not for the average gamer, you really need to know what you're doing - they're picky with connectors and offer loads of options in the BIOS that if used wrongly will cause you more harm than good - take for example the 4V RAM jumper on the NF4 Ultra D. 4V instead of the usual 2.7... Can you say electronmigration? lol

im: You've RMA'ed four and they're not that bad? Two of my three have failed. The third is too young to say yet.
lol, when they are working... they are wonderful
what i have noticed with ASUS motherboards is that every 8-10 months the motherboard dies, i dont know if they are manufactured to do that?

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Yes Asus board can be a bit Hit and Miss of late, maybes it because they are market leaders and dont really care about skimping on cheaper components a bit like dell :)

And about DFI thanks for that sam, we will think about it, the boards my be a bit complicated for out customer base, which is office users and gamers (gamers that dont know anything about the insides of a PC or can't be arsed to build their own lol)


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If they were they'd do it AFTER the warranty had expired - they're just not very well made. This doesn't go for all Asus boards, some of them are very good. Others of course, enough said.

Nick: I think your clientele are the exact sort of folk who shouldn't have DFIs. The sort of people who know enough to tinker, but not enough to think about what they're doing. I'd stick with Gigabyte to be safe! :)



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lol yeah, we had one client who once asked use how he could download some more RAM for his computer, i had to mute the phone while i had a little laugh :)

so i think we'll avoid DFI for now :)

We never really get people who know what they are doing when it comes to PC's because alot of people nowadays prefer to build their own, well alot of the younger generation anyway. I think we have had about 3 clients that have sent us exactly what they want and we have actually said that this person definately knows what they are going on about.

We have massive demand for the AMD Phenom 9850 Black Edition aswell, and in the current climate of Intel vs AMD (intel winning) we are pretty suprised with.


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Originally posted by Nicklt:
lol yeah, we had one client who once asked use how he could download some more RAM for his computer, i had to mute the phone while i had a little laugh :)

so i think we'll avoid DFI for now :)

We never really get people who know what they are doing when it comes to PC's because alot of people nowadays prefer to build their own, well alot of the younger generation anyway. I think we have had about 3 clients that have sent us exactly what they want and we have actually said that this person definately knows what they are going on about.

We have massive demand for the AMD Phenom 9850 Black Edition aswell, and in the current climate of Intel vs AMD (intel winning) we are pretty suprised with.
i guess ppl dont look at the performance differences OR they just like AMD. Back in the day of Prescotts, i still bought P4 even though they got beat by AMD chips just because i have always had intel cpus and didnt want AMD chips no matter how much better they were.

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Originally posted by mrcapdown:
u konw what this is bs
lmfao

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i actually quite like the Phenom 9850, we ran it again and equivalant Intel chip (i wont say which because i dont want to start a fight) and the AMD Phenom was actually faster for us. I don't think it's a bad price either.


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Originally posted by sammorris:
If they were they'd do it AFTER the warranty had expired - they're just not very well made. This doesn't go for all Asus boards, some of them are very good. Others of course, enough said.
but i know a lot of ppl (everyone else in my family + friends) who dont want to rma and just go and buy a new motherboard.

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Originally posted by Nicklt:
i actually quite like the Phenom 9850, we ran it again and equivalant Intel chip (i wont say which because i dont want to start a fight) and the AMD Phenom was actually faster for us. I don't think it's a bad price either.
tell us which intel chip!
qx9650?

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Originally posted by im1992:
Originally posted by sammorris:
If they were they'd do it AFTER the warranty had expired - they're just not very well made. This doesn't go for all Asus boards, some of them are very good. Others of course, enough said.
but i know a lot of ppl (everyone else in my family + friends) who dont want to rma and just go and buy a new motherboard.
i think i know which intel chip
either the q6600 or the q9450

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haha, i dont want to start a rucus.




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5. May 2008 @ 20:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'd be surprised too, the 9850s are naff. Trouble is people think 'big number, it must be faster' - it's obviously paying off. About time AMD got involved with nvidia style idiot exploitation. Well no it isn't, but it's about time they did something to boost their sales.
It'll be the Q6600 and you won't start a rucus. Mhz for mhz the 9850 doesn't do great against the 6600, but in a few apps it undeniably beats it. The higher price and lack of overclocking plus motherboard compatibility issues sees it well below the Q6600 on my list though.



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yeah it was the Q6600, it appeals to quite a few people i think, AMD fanbois. People who are not interested in overclocking... i actually rate the 9850, there are alot of reviews about on the net about being not worth it. But alot of these reviews are for proper hardcore comp people. I am one of them, yes i could right a similiar review, but i also see it from the other point of view. My clients wont or very unlikely to want to overclock, i personally find the 9850 just as good as the equivalent intel chips and any superiority the intel chips have over it are so tiny you hardly notice.




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Originally posted by Nicklt:
yeah it was the Q6600, it appeals to quite a few people i think, AMD fanbois. People who are not interested in overclocking... i actually rate the 9850, there are alot of reviews about on the net about being not worth it. But alot of these reviews are for proper hardcore comp people. I am one of them, yes i could right a similiar review, but i also see it from the other point of view. My clients wont or very unlikely to want to overclock, i personally find the 9850 just as good as the equivalent intel chips and any superiority the intel chips have over it are so tiny you hardly notice.
it is also not the point that amd and intel cpus might perform the same
what about 45nm? AMD there yet? nope! so intel is winning

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5. May 2008 @ 20:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
True, i suppose the tides will turn at some point they always do. Or maybe not, with the loses AMD/ATi are making.


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Originally posted by Nicklt:
True, i suppose the tides will turn at some point they always do. Or maybe not, with the loses AMD/ATi are making.
I hope that AMD doesn't vanish because if Intel has no competition, they won't make any new chips and will only sell the Extreme Editions since ppl will not have another choice. So the rival company helps consumers too.

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True, i can't see amd folding noway. They do produce good products, just got a bit lost lately. One copany or the other always invents new technology before the other, it's inevitable, AMD just need to pull their finger out and get their before Intel.... Now the AMD X3 what where they thinking!!! lol.


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I doubt they'll vanish but there's a good chance they'll get bought out. They're not really doing any better financially - and it's easy to see why if I'm honest. All that's keeping them in play I expect are the GPUs for the Wii and Xbox 360.




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Who would buy them out though, Microsoft? we all know how they liek to dominate everything. IBM? maybe not, they make there own CPU's (i think) that i read somewhere are better than Intel chips.


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That's the opposite of what I read. Last time I checked, IBM were in dire need of something decent, and they're not poor...



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Yeah, i think they only time we see IBM in the mainstream is when we are checkouts and they make the tills. of they have the business network side that is huge. They are and incredibly well off company, and maybe AMD would be a good buy for them and they would probably turn it around. But i dont see AMD being sold to be honest.


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i have 2 ibms' and both of them use intel chips
i have never seen an ibm with an ibm chip in it b4

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