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Wow, Having this PC trouble for like a year now
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Eugene482
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6. August 2008 @ 19:54 |
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_--OMGz! My warranty expires tomorrow ... -_- you know I coulda have gotten replaced for free but then again, my data !! Why would I get a larger capacity than 500GB, imo that is big enough.
I have another question -- performance, if 2 HDs have same RPM but one is smaller, would it run applications faster? Thanks.
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6. August 2008 @ 19:59 |
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Typically 2.5" HDDs still tend to be slower than 3.5" ones for the same speed, and they also get very hot. However, the 10k Velociraptor is a 2.5" disk in a 3.5" box, so it can be done.
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Eugene482
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6. August 2008 @ 21:02 |
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Umm, what? What is 2.5" ? Is that the radius of the HD? So you are saying that larger by physical size HDs are faster, right? Well I don't know the radius of my WD 500GB caviar... I thought WD was good, but now that I am running these chkdsks it seems like seagate is a way to go. Also, I don't know if I want to pay a lot of money for a small, raptor HD, so idk, small radius then or something"?
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6. August 2008 @ 21:04 |
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Oh sorry, you meant smaller by data capacity, I didn't even think of that. Generally there's not much difference, but bigger drives tend to be newer models so will be slightly faster.
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Eugene482
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6. August 2008 @ 21:12 |
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k thanks, I am going to run 3Dmark06 now, for GPU testing, wonder if there's a better version of 3Dmark
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6. August 2008 @ 21:17 |
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3DMark Vantage, but it's for Vista only.
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Eugene482
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7. August 2008 @ 20:59 |
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Should I get* Vista? Is it less trouble than Xp? Yeah also sucks that I have 8800 and I haven't even seen what DX10 looks like....
Well sadly I didn't get any bad artifacts...in 3Dmark06.
By the way sammoris, irony, irony --
August 3rd, 2007
" That'll be a good system. The CPU is very fast, the graphics card is pretty fast too, the Power supply is excellent, and the case is good.
My only warnings are:
The 500GB WD drives are prone to technical problems, you may be fine, but suffice to say both the ones I've had have been faulty. Neither have directly lost me any data, but both trigger the SMART warnings that they are failing and need replacement, and have different problems with writing. It's a shame because all the other WD drives I have are good.
Also, unless the 900 case has been redesigned, it's very difficult to install the hard drives. You will NEED a magnetic screwdriver or two people to do it. It's hard to explain why right now, but when you get the case you'll see why."
Oh I still remember how exhilirating it felt to finally have a great computer, the feeling has now faded, it is really sad....
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Another EDIT:
Yeah I mentioned that when PC Hangs at Windows Logo, you know, you see that colourful display at the start, and it's not fully contrasted and it hangs? It is proly due to CPU overheating, I tried pressing all 4 clicks on the CPU and it seems to be completely clicked in... interesting thing is, if I wait for 1 minute, it doesn't hang anymore, so I don't have to improperly restart PC which then messes up my BIOS settings!
Also, is it bad when PLATINUM RAM runs at 1.8V instead of 2+ V? Thanks I am just cruising around my old threads.
PPS: sammoris, how old are you? You seem to like these boards. Do you do PS2 Modding as well?
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7. August 2008 @ 22:07 |
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Should I get* Vista? Is it less trouble than Xp? Yeah also sucks that I have 8800 and I haven't even seen what DX10 looks like....
You honestly aren't missing much. IMO Vista is more trouble than it's worth. It's great for home users but not so great for gamers. It lowers your performance by up to 20% in some games. And DX10 has yet to show any real benefits as of yet. It's supposed to perform better but, in fact, it performs much worse.
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Also, is it bad when PLATINUM RAM runs at 1.8V instead of 2+ V? Thanks I am just cruising around my old threads.
Do you mean OCZ Platinum? I think the PC6400 is supposed to run stock at 2.1V. Just look up your specific RAM and see what the stock voltage is. Then go in and set it correctly.
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7. August 2008 @ 22:45 |
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Sometimes these kind of creeping bad sectors and constant errors can be a sign of a bad cable.. bad ram can also cause them as the data and settings routine at shutdown can save corrupt data from memory.
Back everything up and then try repartitioning the drive, leaving the first few hundred MB's empty. That forces windows to allocate a different area of the drive for the pagefile.. which may be where these errors are coming from.
Hi Eust.. good to see you still around :) Fista isn't a benefit for anybody but M$.. it's a unix ripoff made by a monkey XD
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7. August 2008 @ 23:02 |
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I'll agree that vista isn't for everybody, especially those trying to do their old programs on it... I hate to say it but as a gamer I really haven't noticed hardly any problems with vista, but then again I did shut down the user access control. The only issue I've really run into with vista is that it likes to double up the resources on some occasions. Is it user friendly...? With the release of service pack 1 its getting there, but I had hoped they would have 'fixed' the UAC issue. (UAC = user access control)
Personally, Microsoft shouldn't have done a 32-bit version of vista, along with a 62-bit version only to release service pack 3 for xp, which if I'm not mistaken allows for the use of direct x 10. This would be like if Sony making the PlayStation 3 only to come right back with a PlayStation 2 that does blu-ray movies. Just wouldn't make any sense, but then again I forget that Murphy was an optimist.
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8. August 2008 @ 06:59 |
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Eugene: Man, that was a long time ago. I've since had two 500GB WD drives that work flawlessly...
I am 20. I don't mod consoles, never really looked into it.
As for OCZ Platinum, though not so much with the PC6400 stuff, I do see swathes of problems with the higher clocked memory, so undervolted 800mhz stuff could potentially be prone to the same issues.
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9. August 2008 @ 16:21 |
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^_^ anyways
Originally posted by varnull:
Sometimes these kind of creeping bad sectors and constant errors can be a sign of a bad cable.. bad ram can also cause them as the data and settings routine at shutdown can save corrupt data from memory.
Back everything up and then try repartitioning the drive, leaving the first few hundred MB's empty. That forces windows to allocate a different area of the drive for the pagefile.. which may be where these errors are coming from.
Hi Eust.. good to see you still around :) Fista isn't a benefit for anybody but M$.. it's a unix ripoff made by a monkey XD
Ok, well I decided that I am gonna do a full system reboot. I bought one of those 500GB external WD HDs and now I am copying all of my files onto it, as I will format the HD and reinstall windows on it, hmm, oh god that means I have to do all that Service Pack 1 crap all over again... and then windows update, oh.........wonder if it still works. Well hopefully my PC will run better after that, I mean HD.
Yeah and what's weird is that my OPtical Drive, LG Lightscribe DVD burner worked fine, but when I sent my PC for a check-up the guy said "it was dead". So now I have to get an external optical drive as well while my other one is still under warranty.....bleh......
This is a fun discussion isn't it? Yeah welcome to my blog.
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Eugene482
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9. August 2008 @ 17:31 |
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In addition, I've noticed that I have to wait 5 seconds, when opening an image. In windows image viewer it says "generating image", but that's when launching it, if I just keep using arrow keys and not closing the window, it loads fine, but when I open it separately, it Loads the harddrive fully for 5 seconds, never happened before, opinions?
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9. August 2008 @ 17:47 |
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If you need to run CHKDSK to fix errors this may work chkdsk /r ,the r is for REPAIR,not sure if you need to state drive letter,you should be able to do it from safe mode,but select command prompt option or if you know anyone with an xp disk home or prof (don't matter which both will work),use that instead to run CHKDSK,insert disk & at the first screen select repair,then when loaded chkdsk /r is all that's needed, chkdsk /f is read only if i remember rightly
Edit: while i'm here if anyone knows of a site where one can learn command prompt tasks let me know,things like change screen resolution & other commands i can play with inside windows
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jeice28
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9. August 2008 @ 18:01 |
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command prompts... do you mean dos? try just goggling for it.
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Eugene482
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10. August 2008 @ 21:27 |
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alright---
so a question about add or remove programs in windows, you see, I installed this game that doesn't work, but I set the directory for "Program Files" thinking that the game will create a foulder for itself, well I was kinda mistaken. This game doesn't work, so I wanna delete it through Add or Remove, and holy ****! This game is 46GB in size!! I wanted to remove it, then just out of curiosity I decided to check the size of "program files", and guess what, it's 46GB!! So I basically can't delete this game without deleting half of my data? Holy crap, that sucks!
Yeah and the game doesn't work cuz in instructions it says to install DirectX and VS Credist or something (m$ C++ Redistributable 2005) and I do that and the game just doesn't launch x_x .....
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10. August 2008 @ 22:27 |
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Sounds like it used the already created "progam files" as it's folder,look inside it if there's any icons inside it that are loose delete them,the program files folder should only show a stack of sub folders which each installed proggy places it's icons into,before deleting anything create a restore point or just use system restore to go back before the install assuming syst restore works,then just use ccleaner to get rid of any unused entries,or you could just do a reformat & fresh install
next time you want to try some software & so long as the program does'nt require a restart go install this http://www.returnilvirtualsystem.com/index_files/rvspersonal.htm
returnil will put windows into a virtual drive,when you exit windows any changes are automatically deleted as you don't actually change anything as nothing is written to the hdd.
OK
Direct x should be 9c for xp as it's the latest,as for the redist pack,all you need do is update windows by using the "windows update" icon in start menu or all progs list,once web paged is loaded follow the prompts & then clik "review other updates" then clik on "custom button" (could be other way round if you already have SP3 installed,minus review updates),once all updates are applied you can ignore further prompts regarding Direct x install as you'll already have it that goes for the redist pack
EDIT: get your self some cloning software,the one below although limited can do what's needed & it's free,tho if a spare hdd is'nt available you'll need ghost or acronis to create image files instead,much better than system restore,however it's better to clone or image a newley formatted drive
http://xxclone.com/
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Eugene482
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11. August 2008 @ 00:02 |
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the game didn't work, but then I copied the error into google, and it told me to delete directx files on system32, there were lots of them, and it now works.
Funny how it became a discussion about a game, ...well if anything serious comes up, I will post in here.
Thanks everyone!
.......yeah also, I use a UPS, and when I turn it on, wait for it to completely start up, then press ON button on my PC, the PC starts UP...for a second, all lights in case light up, fans are working and then suddenly all is OFF. 3 seconds later the PC starts up again and works. It happens everytime I start my computer. Can this harm my PC?
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11. August 2008 @ 07:35 |
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Nope - that's normal for P35/X38 chipset boards. Whenever they are completely disconnected from power for more than 5s, they enter a check state, i.e. when you turn them back on again, they shut down and reboot to avoid POST issues.
Ignore the file size counter in 'add/remove programs' - it takes the file size of the folder the game's in, which is very rarely accurate - a good example is a game with two expansion packs that you install to the same folder (which is what you'd normally do) - the program will read the collective file size of the three of them, for each of them...
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12. August 2008 @ 10:29 |
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lol like when it gave me 20GB for Warhammer 40k :P
Seriously though. So many people told me not to do a RAID 0 array because I could lose all my data if one drive dies. If you have quality components, shouldn't this be a non-issue? I've never had a Seagate drive fail on me and only one Western Digital 80GB that was in a poorly ventilated, passively cooled, and noisy Dell Dimension 3000. Absolutely no airflow to the HDD, video or chipset. CPU cooling was a shoddily designed aluminum heatsink with a duct and a single 90mm fan for exhaust.
So my point being, don't you think a large portion of components failures are due to user error or poor design? My stupid friend with the 9800GTX went through 3 Palit Sonic 8800GT 1GB cards. I tried one out and it worked fine but he says they didn't work in his PC. Go figure, he says, "a 500w PSU should be fine shouldn't it?" lol it had 17a in the 12v rail and was a RaidMax. Then he replaced it with a 600W Ultra contrary to my advice(which he asked for). That one had a failing 12v rail plus there was literally about 50ft of unmodular wires to try and sort out. Finally got him settled with a 650W Antec True Blue that, so far, is just fine.
I still don't regret my 600W OCZ. Still quiet, still stable, and still pushing as much air as my 550VX.
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12. August 2008 @ 10:32 |
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You shouldn't have any regrets about it, the StealthXStreams are better if anything than the GameXStreams and decently solid units for the price. I wouldn't want to run 600W off one mind, but then going close to the max output of a PSU is rarely a good idea anyway even with good units.
As for HDDs, you'd be surprised, good brand HDDs like Seagates and WDs usually last a long time if they work to start with, but the first few months can expose faulty ones that can go without warning, usually logically.
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Eugene482
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12. August 2008 @ 12:46 |
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hey Sam, you know, is there any way to make a bootable copy of my current OS? Because I am using SP3 for XP, and I don't wanna start over with ... no service packs at all and then do all these updates, is there any way to create a disc of my current OS? So like I could install windows again? Thanks.
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Not legally I don't think. You can download copies of XP with SP3 pre-installed, but needless to say, they're not legitimate. A good old fashioned case of piracy being better than legitimately owning a product. Playing it straight and narrow's a mug's game these days huh?
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12. August 2008 @ 22:45 |
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bootable copies... like what doing it off you flash drive or disc? There is, and as long as you own a retail copy disc it becomes legal. Its the same principal behind dvd burning software. You are legally allowed to make a back up of your movies as long as you own the disc. This does also include oem software, however I do not know about recovery partitions on out of the box computers. I want to say no, but the problem is as you can burn recovery discs then that may make it legal. If this a desktop or laptop purchased as an out of the box unit; they do usually come with this ability to put it on a disc.
It is possible to do.... but as sam said.
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sammorris - not legally I don't think. You can download copies of XP with SP3 pre-installed, but needless to say, they're not legitimate. A good old fashioned case of piracy being better than legitimately owning a product. Playing it straight and narrow's a mug's game these days huh?
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