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EsirnuS
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_ 		17. February 2004 @ 06:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Wilkes,

i do understand you predicament about being tarred with the same brush as the "intentional criminal" i use that term loosely to describe those that download/copy/pirate music en masse

it seems that many people have many different views as to what should be allowed and to what shouldnt be allowed. Somewhere back in this discussion somebody justified their backing up of cd's but called downlaoding "stealing". The point i am trying to make here is that there is no difference - its ALL illegal. There is no one copyright breach less illegal than the rest. However, i would like to think that the enforcers of these laws will know where to draw the line. This could all get totally out of hand.

I doubt we will see the voking of all cdrw/dvdrw drives from PC's, the removal of all blank copying media from the shelves, the prosicution of all the program writers who design these programs we all use. in fact i doubt they can infringe such behaviour based on the fact you will be putting companies out of business.

the recording industry is taking a bullies role in frightening and intimidating people which will eventually back fire.
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wilkes
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_ 		17. February 2004 @ 07:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Tell me about it!
As far as companies who manufacture stuff goes, they will never be sued as the argument goes along the lines of "there is a possible legal use for the equipment". As far as withdrawing CD-R/W etc, yamaha already have, and they cite the current legal situation!
What will probably happen is all devices capable of RAW mode operation will be banned. In the UK, they already are illegal, as are DAT recorders with a user settable SCMS flag. Also now illegal are "devices or technologies capable of circumventing copy protection measures". The list goes on, and the UK government is about to empower the Patent Office with the authority to persue their own cases & remedies, effectively putting law enforcement into the hands of Patent & copyright lawyers! It's a joke, it really is. The man who once said "the price of freedom is eternal vigilance" certainly knew what he was talking about.
Send me your email address, and I'll send you copies of the new law as of 31/10/2003 and the EUCD proposals.
It makes for very scary reading.
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EsirnuS
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_ 		17. February 2004 @ 07:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Consider yourself PM'd

i'd like a closer look at those laws

not before bed tho i imagine - think it will be too scary

I will continue to operate with the caution i always have done and wait to hear if i am one of the unlucky ones who P!$$£d off a lawyer once and will now pay the price.

a criminal as i am in the eyes of the law - surely i am but a small player in the game and will avoid being hunted down by the SAS of copyright protection
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Talion
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_ 		23. March 2004 @ 05:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
OK. Is there a software that can burn copy protected cds? I kinda skiped all of the other posts because that laws and stuff and stuff. I didn't want to read it. My friend has this cd from Japan, I think. She doesn't want anything to happen to it because it costs like $50 and it took two months to ship. So anyways, is it possible to make a backup?

Thanks
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tigre
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_ 		23. March 2004 @ 06:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Check the related sticky thread.
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/70597

If there are remaining questions, feel free to post them there.
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