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23. January 2009 @ 03:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It'll be on a 22" screen :)
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23. January 2009 @ 08:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Indeed. An HD4870 is more than enough for 1680x1050, an HD4850 would suffice for most things at that resolution.



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23. January 2009 @ 14:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yes and 2 512MB HD4870s on my 1920 res screen is still overkill for most stuff. But that also means higher eye candy settings :D

A single 4870 should be able to max most stuff at 1680 res. Even Crysis should be quite attainable. Heck, a 4850 could do Crysis at that res, though not near as well XD



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23. January 2009 @ 14:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
1680x1050 requirements for smooth gameplay at absolute maximum settings (Except where stated) (minimum frame rate of 30, 20 for Crysis)

Fallout 3: HD4850, HD4870 4xAA, GTX285 8xAA
Far Cry 2: HD4850, HD4870 1GB 4xAA,
Crysis Very High: HD4870X2, GTX280 SLI 4xAA
Crysis DX10 High: GTX260-216 / HD4850X2, GTX280 / HD4870X2 4xAA
Crysis DX9 High: HD4870 1GB, GTX260-216/HD4850X2 4xAA
Call of Duty World at War: HD4850, HD4850 1GB/HD4870 4xAA
STALKER Clear Sky High: HD4870, HD4850X2 4xAA
STALKER Clear Sky Max: HD4870X2, HD4870X4 4xAA
Brothers in Arms Hell's Highway: HD4670 (AA not supported by game)
GRiD: HD4670, HD4830 4xAA
Grand Theft Auto IV: GTX280 Triple SLI (AA not supported by game) (hack required)

A clear trend appears here. In all the games that aren't stupid, an HD4850 is enough. For the ones that are though, even an HD4870 1GB is hopelessly inadequate. This is my personal experience as a lot of games coming out now are only running at 1680x1050 on my X2 - I would need something better to reach 1920x1200. It's also worth noting you will need a 4Ghz 45nm Quad core processor or 3.7Ghz i7 to pull off the GTA4 score, as most of the games are CPU rendered.




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24. January 2009 @ 04:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Jesus... this makes me wanna invest in a better card after I finish this build... With a Q9550, what do you think would be the highest speed attainable without a voltage increase?
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24. January 2009 @ 05:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Depends on the stepping. If it's C1 perhaps 3.4Ghz, if it's E0, maybe 3.6-3.7.



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25. January 2009 @ 18:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
What are the chances of getting an E0 stepping from newegg? And those speeds are attainable with a tuniq tower sitting on top of it right?
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25. January 2009 @ 18:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm not sure about the chances. Mostly it's all luck.

A Tuniq Tower should work well. Mine got me to 3.7 stable with a Q6600.



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To hit 4Ghz on a C1 Q9550 you will have raise the northbridge voltage, Gunning Transceiver Logic(GTL) voltages, and your CPU Voltage needs to be around 1.36 or so to achieve 4Ghz.. You have better have some good cooling as well, the Tuniq would be fine.. Gunning Transceiver Logic or GTL is important to achieve stability with quads at higher FSB's. When you have a higher fsb you create additional current and electrical noise through the mobo, the GTL filters out the noise that causes instabilitys with higher overclocks.. CPU Termination or VTT is also important, the max VTT for 45nm chips is 1.45. Too much Vtt will nuke a quad quickly, i read an article where anandtech used too high of a Vtt on a Q9650 which ultimately destroyed the chip within a month..

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The E0 is where it's at, you really won't need that much voltage to hit 3.83.. Now with a C1, you can prepare for a battle!!! Still though, who would have thought a few years back that you could achieve a 35 percent overclock on air with no major voltage tweaks.. My how far we've come, there's nothing like free performance!!

Q9550@4.0ghz,Gigabyte EP45-UD3P,OCZ Vendetta 2 cooler,VisionTek 4870X2,1TB Samsung Spinpoint SATA/3GB,4GB G.Skill DDR2 1066,LG Blu-ray/HDDVD combo drive,Corsair HX-1000 Modular,Hannspree 28" LCD,Coolermaster Cosmos S
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=473095

2 Xbox 360 Jaspers(flashed w/Ixtreme LT), PS3, Wii
Samsung 4071,Samsung 4095, Samsung 245BW LCD Displays
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26. January 2009 @ 00:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I saw a guy on Overclock.net hit 4.33GHz with a C1 using 513*8.5.. That's a FSB of 2052, jesus christ! He also had proof of his stability with Prime95 and OCCT, i'm not sure if he was on water or air?? He had to be on water, who knows??

Q9550@4.0ghz,Gigabyte EP45-UD3P,OCZ Vendetta 2 cooler,VisionTek 4870X2,1TB Samsung Spinpoint SATA/3GB,4GB G.Skill DDR2 1066,LG Blu-ray/HDDVD combo drive,Corsair HX-1000 Modular,Hannspree 28" LCD,Coolermaster Cosmos S
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=473095

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26. January 2009 @ 07:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The FSB isn't what's amazing about that, it's how fast he got a quad. There have been plenty of 550+mhz FSB testes using Phase or Nitrogen cooling on dual cores. Additionally, you're amazed about 35% gains on air with no voltage increases? This is good for a quad, but the lower end Core 2 Duos were making 75% overclocks with no voltage increases on air, especially the E2140.



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26. January 2009 @ 08:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
That's right the E2140, i remember seeing some 100 percent overclocks with that thing.. Hey sam my other system had an Opty 180 on an A8N SLI Deluxe which i couldn't overclock to 2500mhz, so you must excuse me if i get excited about any type of overclock!!lol Can you feel my pain!lol

Q9550@4.0ghz,Gigabyte EP45-UD3P,OCZ Vendetta 2 cooler,VisionTek 4870X2,1TB Samsung Spinpoint SATA/3GB,4GB G.Skill DDR2 1066,LG Blu-ray/HDDVD combo drive,Corsair HX-1000 Modular,Hannspree 28" LCD,Coolermaster Cosmos S
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=473095

2 Xbox 360 Jaspers(flashed w/Ixtreme LT), PS3, Wii
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26. January 2009 @ 08:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You should have been able to, the 180 was a 2.4Ghz chip wasn't it? I had the basic A8N-SLI SE and an X2 4200+ (2.2) and I managed to get that to 2.4. Considering all I changed was the multiplier I didn't do too bad, not for a board of such poor quality it failed after 5 months. My E4300 (1.8Ghz) ran at 3.15Ghz for a solid year, and 3Ghz for 6 months before that. It now runs at stock in my fileserver as I don't need it OC'ed for that job.




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26. January 2009 @ 08:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It sure was a crappy board, you remember how bad the chipset fan was!!lol It failed on me in about a month and Asus sent me a replacement chipset fan and i replaced it, i should have got rid of the board then.. Crazy thing is i'm still using the board on my other build, it hasn't crapped out on me yet!!lol

Q9550@4.0ghz,Gigabyte EP45-UD3P,OCZ Vendetta 2 cooler,VisionTek 4870X2,1TB Samsung Spinpoint SATA/3GB,4GB G.Skill DDR2 1066,LG Blu-ray/HDDVD combo drive,Corsair HX-1000 Modular,Hannspree 28" LCD,Coolermaster Cosmos S
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=473095

2 Xbox 360 Jaspers(flashed w/Ixtreme LT), PS3, Wii
Samsung 4071,Samsung 4095, Samsung 245BW LCD Displays
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26. January 2009 @ 08:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yep, the 180 was a 2.4 chip i did manage to get it to 2552 and that's where it's been for the last 2 years or so.

Q9550@4.0ghz,Gigabyte EP45-UD3P,OCZ Vendetta 2 cooler,VisionTek 4870X2,1TB Samsung Spinpoint SATA/3GB,4GB G.Skill DDR2 1066,LG Blu-ray/HDDVD combo drive,Corsair HX-1000 Modular,Hannspree 28" LCD,Coolermaster Cosmos S
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=473095

2 Xbox 360 Jaspers(flashed w/Ixtreme LT), PS3, Wii
Samsung 4071,Samsung 4095, Samsung 245BW LCD Displays
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26. January 2009 @ 09:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I remember them being bad, ironically my system was a prebuild and they hooked it up to a fan controller for me, but without checking - the fan controller had a faulty line so my chipset ran passively all that time. I checked the temperature of it though, and actually it wasn't that bad.



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26. January 2009 @ 18:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have a quick question.. Since the only parts i'm missing now are the processor, operating system, and hdd, can I assemble it all in my case? Or do I have to wait for everything all at once?
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26. January 2009 @ 19:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Assemble it all if you like, if you've got the case and motherboard, there's no reason you can't do it now, just make sure the CPU socket doesn't get damaged.



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26. January 2009 @ 19:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Since I'm on a carpet, what should I do since I don't have an anti-static bracelet? Can I use something else instead?
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26. January 2009 @ 19:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Just grab hold of the bare metal part of a radiator pipe with both hands before you begin, then just be sensible, don't rub your hair, the carpet or pets while you're working.



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26. January 2009 @ 19:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
radiator pipe? I don't think I have one of those
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26. January 2009 @ 19:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You don't have radiators in your house? how is it heated?



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26. January 2009 @ 19:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have a furnace, kinda like a boiler, but different, and I don't think i would wanna touch that bad boy..
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26. January 2009 @ 19:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Probably wouldn't help even if you did. As long as you haven't got much of a static charge on you in the first place you'll be ok.



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