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RoBRuLeZ
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24. January 2009 @ 06:02 |
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Originally posted by varnull:
Just because you NEWBIE can and likes to gho back and edit your posts after people have replied does not give you the excuse to call people pathetic.. I will put money on the fact I was using and working around professional systems before you were even born... before gates and co came along.. when unix and it's variants were about all there was, unless you liked coding your own with fortran/cobol.
NEWBIE should check out how many posts and information provision it takes to get my status on these boards before mouthing off.. that's a right reserved for the nasty bastards like me XD
I clearly read (in your now edited post) how "I have been using xp for 5 years and it has never crashed once" .. so we have another troll here who needs screenshots of their posts taking before we answer. Actually I don't bother whey a rabid fanboy gets to that point.. I just get them banned instead XD
Carry on using your proprietary closed software and OS.. in fact please do, because I'm pretty sure the FOSS community doesn't want or need another M$ apologist cluttering up the discussion and help forums with their blinkered shit. Learn from history.. cbm/amiga used to have a 90% near monopoly of the home pc market... they thought they were set forever because of it.. cbm/amiga??.. who???
Enjoy your 8 year obsolete OS now won't you.. I'm off to continue using my 4 week old linux.. hahahahahahahahahah
You are so full of shit and you don't even realize it. Get your facts straight. I never said anything about having XP for five years. I know this because I know what I type. I have more important things to do than to try to prove this to you. So you can continue to spend your time on an internet forum, trying to get "newbies" banned because they dislike Linux. As for me, I am done with this thread.
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24. January 2009 @ 16:58 |
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I'm not a diehard Linux (or any other OS) advocate like the others here :)
No-one's being banned, using XP isn't in our Forum Rules.
I'm a simple chap, and a firm believer in using the relevant tools for the job, ie i just use whatever software i want for whatever task it's needed for.
At work that means Solaris and Linux, and a bit of Windows too. At home it's mainly XP as i don't like to bring my work home with me, i do use Linux at home but it's so easy to use that it's perfect as a tool to get other things done with (just as XP is).
To be honest i could care less about Open Standards or any other standards, it's just not something worth getting heated under the collar about, not in my little world anyways :)
Basically i'm just not the typical *nix person i'm afraid, so no strong opinions for and against most things from the creakster.
Talking of Microsoft annoyances I did have to buy a newer version of Outlook due to some old important emails being 'stuck' in an older version. A pain at first, it was just a case of finding a cheap version (Outlook wasn't my choice, but my firm's choice). I only needed access to the emails for reference, i have zero interest in using Outlook in the future, unless it's foisted on me again.
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24. January 2009 @ 18:06 |
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Originally posted by RoBRuLeZ:
Originally posted by varnull:
Just because you NEWBIE can and likes to gho back and edit your posts after people have replied does not give you the excuse to call people pathetic.. I will put money on the fact I was using and working around professional systems before you were even born... before gates and co came along.. when unix and it's variants were about all there was, unless you liked coding your own with fortran/cobol.
NEWBIE should check out how many posts and information provision it takes to get my status on these boards before mouthing off.. that's a right reserved for the nasty bastards like me XD
I clearly read (in your now edited post) how "I have been using xp for 5 years and it has never crashed once" .. so we have another troll here who needs screenshots of their posts taking before we answer. Actually I don't bother whey a rabid fanboy gets to that point.. I just get them banned instead XD
Carry on using your proprietary closed software and OS.. in fact please do, because I'm pretty sure the FOSS community doesn't want or need another M$ apologist cluttering up the discussion and help forums with their blinkered shit. Learn from history.. cbm/amiga used to have a 90% near monopoly of the home pc market... they thought they were set forever because of it.. cbm/amiga??.. who???
Enjoy your 8 year obsolete OS now won't you.. I'm off to continue using my 4 week old linux.. hahahahahahahahahah
You are so full of shit and you don't even realize it. Get your facts straight. I never said anything about having XP for five years. I know this because I know what I type. I have more important things to do than to try to prove this to you. So you can continue to spend your time on an internet forum, trying to get "newbies" banned because they dislike Linux. As for me, I am done with this thread.
Why are you done with this thread,you came in here wanting a fight & you got one..lmao..Just because you tried ubuntu for how many seconds does'nt make it not as good as xp ,unitll you have used linux continuously like you have with xp then any comments you make are based on ignorance,come back after a year.nough said i'm done with this bampot
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24. January 2009 @ 21:25 |
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OK, i have only posted some pics that i had lurkin on the net, however here i go on a *nix/xp rant.......
what is the most used system on the net........linux -- why? Almost ALL the servers on the net are run on linux (cannot verify the variant, but linux is the base), i would guesstimate about 95% are running this. Shit, even my company, which runs windows on the desktop and on some client servers runs linux underneath it). I had the experience today of shista, i hope to * that i never get it again. where the * was everything?????? opened internet explorer..........where the * was the file menu????????????????? really cudnt be arsed lookin too closely, trying to get the damn wireless running (under a home hub which was an experience and a half, 2 foookin hours of my life wasted)
* it, i will stick with *nix for now and ever, windoze (new and old) can * till they sort it out properly (roll on the yr 2050 maybe)......................
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24. January 2009 @ 21:38 |
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hahahaha.. hey scorp.. another toll dispatched to the dungheap that windoze trolls and M$ apologists end up on sooner or later.
Good riddance.. nick noted for further abuse when the shyster feels brave enough to prove their ignorance of everything somewhere else.
What a shame Dan packed it in.. I'm too nice these days, but I will not tolerate trolls making retard statements, then editing them after a reply is made... I would like to see AD instigate a time limit for edits.. like say 4 minutes like wordpress blogs or something.. that would kill off these trolls and fight pickers stone dead.
It seems to escape some morons notice that whining on about how "great" something is that we have already discarded as total crap is a rather pointless exercise in and of itself.. I hope the silly little c--t goes out into the street with that attitude.. If I ran across the prat they would have the double ignomy of getting their ass well and truly kicked by a girl.. in public too.. hahahahaha
That FYI is why we call it N00BUNTU.. noobs only OS .. same as windoze XD
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24. January 2009 @ 22:41 |
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Okay, let's get level heads here. I've used Ubuntu, but I do prefer XP and Office products, in comparison to Open Office. Open Office is a VERY good alternative, and if I had to use something other than Office, this would be my hands down choice. I like GIMP too, but prefer Paint.Net, albeit, once again, if Photoshop is not available.
Statements about "older" MS Office documents aren't necessarily true. First off, any moron who wouldn't save their sensitive data in RTF, or TXT format, well that's plain stupid. It's true that "some" older formats, such as MDI and Office 95 do not open in 2007 or 2003 SP3, but there are registry hacks to open up the functionality.
As for not being able to open 2007 files in anything other than 2007, well, that's a bold lie. MS makes a compatibility plugin for the older Office programs. Yes, I understand all of the open source arguments, and they are valid, but MS is not dumb enough to shut the door on consumers who have purchased their products, as they would fear the backlash.
Ugh, that story is awful. At my work, we BACKUP the paper documents in electronic form. The paper docs then go into a filing cabinet in a fireproof safe. Ever hear of don't put your eggs in one basket? (BTW, I'd hate to see what happened to the IT manager who drew up those "best practices" at NASA.)
As for Windows 7, it's a little more than "looking like Vista". It blows Vista out of the water in performance. In fact, I had it running on a P4 2.6 w/512mb of ram and that was going as swell as Ubuntu, and both were better performing than XP (believe it or not.) Of course, 7 is in beta, and always susceptible to the billions of viruses out there.
As for Ubuntu, it comes with stuff that I already love. In fact, it's a bit "too easy" to get up and running. I like to find software, learn to install and play around, but everything's already configured! Yeah, that's petty, but oh well. They do keep support fresh, as one of my laptops didn't have a wireless driver, and then in the next version, low and behold, it was working. HP and Intel also supply drivers, so compatibility is very good if you are running their hardware.
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24. January 2009 @ 23:23 |
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I run N00buntu on my wee uns laptop, my main box runs debian sid, with no problems so far (after 4 months). Screw M$ and there closed source bolloX. 90% of the open source community will not write anything towards what they use (i am one of those, i cudn't program an onion), however, the 10% that do i have more respect than the arseholes that write for M$ and produce soooooooooo much shit for the world wide web (damn i h8 updates).
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SProdigy
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25. January 2009 @ 00:11 |
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I didn't mention this in my last post, but you guys DO realize that the beloved Open Office is developed by Sun, right? Is Sun in business to NOT make profit?
Don't forget about Sparc systems, and Solaris, which was just recently made open (most of it) a few years back. And then there's Java, which is easily responsible for the scripts that bring about spyware and other junk on the web.
Now I'm not trying to pour gasoline on the fire here, everyone's entitled to an opinion. I just can't stand one-sided hate towards any product. Well, maybe Vista. ;-)
So, how do you guys feel about Mac OSX? It's the same base system, but it's obviously not open source, nor is it meant to run on anything outside of Apple hardware.
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OzMick
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25. January 2009 @ 01:33 |
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Originally posted by SProdigy:
I didn't mention this in my last post, but you guys DO realize that the beloved Open Office is developed by Sun, right? Is Sun in business to NOT make profit?
Don't forget about Sparc systems, and Solaris, which was just recently made open (most of it) a few years back. And then there's Java, which is easily responsible for the scripts that bring about spyware and other junk on the web.
Now I'm not trying to pour gasoline on the fire here, everyone's entitled to an opinion. I just can't stand one-sided hate towards any product. Well, maybe Vista. ;-)
So, how do you guys feel about Mac OSX? It's the same base system, but it's obviously not open source, nor is it meant to run on anything outside of Apple hardware.
Open source doesn't mean you can't make a buck. A number of high profile companies sponsor development of a number of projects, the point being that they can have an influence on the product. Besides, if you're saving tens of thousands of dollars by not having to upgrade MS Office, there is money left in the budget to sponsor such customization to fill in the gaps that you may need filled. The money is generated by selling support, the same way as Red Hat makes money from Linux. Regardless of the motivation, they are modifying GPL code, so it is accessible to all if it is a good innovation. So it is in fact in a lot of companies best interest to make a feature rich program that can fuel support sales. Everyone wins, everyone has access to the software obligation free, support is available and revenue is generated for further updates.
What is the point you are trying to make about JavaScript (which I believe you've confused with Java)? It has little to do with Java other than in name... I don't get what you're trying to achieve by listing all the other things Sun is involved in... They're open source, and they're opening more things up, and that is that a bad thing?! It is just proof that the open source philosophy is gathering momentum, and companies that get in on the ground floor now are setting themselves up for the future.
As for OSX, don't so much have an opinion. The *kernel* and other low level tools are based on BSD, and you *can* get access to it. http://www.opensource.apple.com/projects/darwin/6.0/release.html Everything else about the platform is closed. If someone wants to blow their hard owned on that overpriced shit that is their choice.
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25. January 2009 @ 10:55 |
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Originally posted by OzMick:
If someone wants to blow their hard owned on that overpriced shit that is their choice.
Best quote ever!
What I'm trying to say about Java, is that it can cause as many headaches in Windows as the OS itself. Appelets, scripts, etc. are all being designed for the web with this technology (much like Flash) so you're stuck with using it, which isn't necessarily a good thing.
For example, Java installs a update. It doesn't remove the "old" version of the software, nor upgrade over it. It is a seperate install. So you end up with 5-6 versions on a Windows box, all taking a good 100mb each. Small gripe, but here's the kicker: the old version is there for compatibility, but some apps that are designed on a specific version, will run with bugs or not at all, if a newer version is installed on that machine. You then have to remove all versions of the software, and reinstall the proper version, remembering to disable the auto-update feature, or else it will update within minutes! It's a headache, trust me.
Also, the caching feature of Java doesn't work well across profiles, so you must disable it, which may create a performance hit, depending on the application. I dislike the cache anyhow, since, like temp files, typical users don't know how to clear out the junk, and it piles up on the machine. It's also a typical haven for adware and crapware to hide on the machine.
Whew. So that's my point about Java. Great tech, but far from perfect. Just like Windows. Just like Linux. You win some, you lose some!
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Think this about sums it up
i I WISH SO BAD YOU HAD THIS AS A WALLPAPER FOR MY COMPUTER!!!! sweet image!!!!!!
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25. August 2009 @ 01:26 |
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That FYI is why we call it N00BUNTU.. noobs only OS .. same as windoze XD
I've been running *nix for almost a decade and my most recent OS..... Ubuntu. Why? Convenience. It's based on debby so it's very stable. It comes pre-bundled with a ton of apps that I don't have to download.
Have you ever used Ubuntu? Just because it's easy to install doesn't mean it's garbage. My first distro was slackware (used for many years on my laptop) and the only thing I miss is runlevel 3.
Why is Ubuntu garbage/mainstream/NOOBuntu?
Not trying to start a fight or anything, just one tuxie asking another's opinion.
Thanks!
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I think its funny how the OP comes in here bashing *nix then nerd-rages when everybody proves to him how *nix is better.
I personally love the power of linux but I haven't had a good experience with it yet. My laptop's wireless won't work due to the broadcom chip, yes I tried ndiswrapper and fwcutter to no avail :(, and my desktop uses a SATA Optical drive so that makes it difficult to install since linux doesn't recognize it and I don't know how to make it show up.
I haven't given up yet though! Since I use it in college classes a lot I do get some exposure to it.
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My experience with Linux has been and will continue to be, for a long while, experimental.
I primarily use Windows on my PC and at school, but I tinker with Ubuntu and other Linux distros in my free time. I'm eventually planning on moving completely to Linux, but to be honest, I doubt that'll be possible until EVERYONE switches over to Linux, IF they switch over. Or, at the very least, a large enough portion of the population switch over.
It's all about compatibility issues. I don't much care about any of that closed-source/open-source junk; problems like MS Word docs not opening right in OpenOffice is, to me, the same thing as BMP images not converting right to JPG, to PNG, etc. The same thing as AVI files not converting right to MPG, MP4, etc.
The original poster was ignorant in thinking that PowerPoint presentations not displaying right in OpenOffice was the fault of OpenOffice. That's like saying an AMD chip won't fit in an Intel motherboard and it's the Intel motherboard's fault. He obviously doesn't use computers enough.
But anyway. I should stop before I sound more and more like I don't know what I'm talking about.
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27. October 2009 @ 16:14 |
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Linux is a nice operating system for several groups of people. I should say that I decided not to read the posts here, though I read and agree with 'creaky's.
If you wait for the latest video game, tweaked for speed on its OS, Windows is for you. If you already have lots of expensive hardware that uses proprietary protocols, Windows is for you.
My pre-school granddaughter likes Debian Linux it because it runs beautifully on a 1995 laptop I found in a dumpster. There are two organizations of professional who write amazing, free educational games for children of her age. She loves the daisy flower on the GNOME desktop. Her laptop runs desktop publishing, GIMP, &c on its 8 GB. It taught her chess.
Students who want to learn about computing have the source code to the operating system and to all the software. It is usually written in C or C++. There are texts on the OS, which they can tune; and they can modify the applications or desktop & recompile.
Laptop users whose OS upgrades have slowed to a crawl or are obsolete can substitute Linux and have a fully functional, fast operating system that won't age so quickly. Nice for Mac users.
People who have never used a computer before or who haven't much money will find Linux does all other OSes do, and it and its 15,000 or so applications are free, trivial to find, install, & remove (which is not so for Macs). It prints. It writes DVDs. Its maintenance is fully automated.
People who strongly believe in Richard Stallman's philosophy and international standards will want no other.
Scientists need to write free software need Linux for their final release, which need be free & run on most hardware.
Computer consultants who need to repair a variety of operating system. Linux can repair and de-louse many filesystems. It boots from a USB flash drive.
Computer professionals, who want to modify software to suit their needs, will find GNU/Linux an optimal choice.
Large corporations, who wish to have their IT Department modify even the OS for their needs will find GNU/Linux a godsend. They used to lease (for more than my salary) parts of the source code for individual applications, or even have to hire another company's programmers to modify it for them!
Your Problems
First, computer companies had to modify Windows to work with their laptops. You may need to modify Linux, which is easy and laid out in websites pointed to by your Linux supplier. I have no explanation why your download speeds are slow; they shouldn't be. Ask on your Linux's forum, or write the person who wrote the download software (DHCP or PPP) you use. That's one thing nice about Linux.
Unix is far older than Microsoft, and though it has been modified to communicate well with standard protocols and read & write standard formats, proprietary companies such as Microsoft do their best to throw a wrench into all of this.
It is to the advantage of Microsoft and those makers of cameras & peripheral devices that are contractually obliged to it (Sony & Nikon, apparently) to make Mac's & Linux's life as miserable as possible. NetFlix streaming is probably not possible.
Buy equivalent brands & services that use ISO & other standard protocols and thus support Linux. The Apple store gives you an idea of who these companies are: when a piece of hardware says it 'supports' Mac or Linux, this support can be very minimal compared with the controls it offers Windows.
I purchase only devices that speak standard protocols (over which anything can be done), and have never had a problem. Because Linux can read & write files in standard formats in most any filesystem, you can place it and alternative applications on a USB flash drive, then boot from it, and use a seldom-used application, uneconomical to buy, to modify your file.
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28. October 2009 @ 01:36 |
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I purchase only devices that speak standard protocols (over which anything can be done), and have never had a problem. Because Linux can read & write files in standard formats in most any filesystem, you can place it and alternative applications on a USB flash drive, then boot from it, and use a seldom-used application, uneconomical to buy, to modify your file.
Right on!!.. that's the way to go. proprietary hardware and software is bad for everybody.. and closed standards lead to built in redundancy.. as M$ users find out at the expense of their wallets time and time again. What would you rather do.. spend 10 minutes looking for a solution or buying YET ANOTHER no new features added updated office bloat (sorry suite) just to open a damn email?
Some prat sent me a docx file.. they got it back with an added virus..
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30. October 2009 @ 22:00 |
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Originally posted by scum101:
Some prat sent me a docx file.. they got it back with an added virus..
Let's play nicely, children. (You keep a supply of malware?) Docx is an ISO/IEC 29500 standard, named 'Open Office XML format'.
It is used for more document types than just word processors, and is the required format in many government's offices.
Remember, word processors produce, essentially, computer programs: text & instructions on how to print it. XML is such a powerful yet simple computing language, most any Microsoft document can be written in a single XML-based language.
Although Microsoft writes .docx files and helps maintain the format, it must pain them greatly. It's based upon XML, is a text file, and it has replaced the binary .doc as MS Office's default and replaced .odt as Open Office's default. Kudos to Microsoft, which must be squirming. My OpenOffice.org 2.0 doesn't read .docx, but I understand 3.0 will. In the meanwhile, I use an external converter.
When a consultant, I always insisted clients use text formats (use XyWrite). Many times, I was called to save a crucial letter; because the pieces were in text, I used a text editor to easily find fragments and piece them together. Sun's .odt is text, based upon XML; and Apple's RTF is text, based upon TeX.
No word processors satisfy the typographically literate, but Linux's free font editor (FontForge) used with a desktop publisher (Scribus) comes close.
Mac users without OpenOffice.org still occasionally send me MS spreadsheets or databases as attachments that they received. Both my Debian Linux & my MacOSX computers automatically extract the attachment, spreadsheet.docx.zip for example, & store in a folder, run a malware check on it, and (if safe) then open it (using an external converter if necessary). I then export them in the CSV format that all applications read, and mail them back. Soon, I may be converting all to .docx.zip.
Show sympathy for your friends, who had Microsoft thrust upon them.
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30. October 2009 @ 23:04 |
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Originally posted by SProdigy:
And then there's Java, which is easily responsible for the scripts that bring about spyware and other junk on the web.
Java is a brilliant concept. I keep close attention to security, but I'm unaware that Java was a serious security issue (though there have been security flaws in its implementations.) Given what it does (run a program using your computer's processor), its security is amazingly good. (Perhaps you're confusing it with JavaScript.)
Scientists can write books with variable graphs and motion pictures in place of photos; and allow users to enter their data into a web page and run it on a supercomputer, then download it for their computer if they like what they see. It doesn't matter what hardware or software they run. Brilliant.
Originally posted by SProdigy:
Now I'm not trying to pour gasoline on the fire here, everyone's entitled to an opinion. I just can't stand one-sided hate towards any product. Well, maybe Vista. ;-)
Microsoft's initial malware problem was caused by writing their operating system to actually run adware and spyware, for companies that paid Microsoft. These operating systems were built for malware. Vista and more recent, I assume, have eliminated this. I know nothing of recent versions.
Originally posted by SProdigy:
So, how do you guys feel about Mac OSX? It's the same base system, but it's obviously not open source, nor is it meant to run on anything outside of Apple hardware.
Apple sells hardware. Apple initially had problems, providing no backup device (before the iPod), but it has slowly added so many security enhancements that the beginning user is safest with a Mac. (Apple has modified the VM & method of starting daemons to increase security.) Linux users need to write firewall rules, install an NIDS, and otherwise harden Linux's security.
Probably because Apple sells hardware, its automatic updates bloat the OS until you need to buy a new computer, unlike Linux. The laptops are bleeding edge technology, with both ball-array soldering & flat-surface technology. The two of these have caused many laptops to break their solder joints after about two years of use. The keys pop off easily and are nearly impossible to replace. These are the only problems I've noticed.
Neverthless, the custom combination of hardware & software has allowed Macs to be an illustration of state-of-the-art computing. I think their elegance & creativity are incomparable.
I've noticed, however, that free software initially written for Linux runs more slowly & takes much more resources on a Mac. It flies on Linux. However, I can't recommend a Linux for a beginner unless it comes with at least an easy-to-use firewall.
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30. October 2009 @ 23:22 |
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Sorry, I forgot to say that many people (including me) are placing a Linux on their otherwise disposable G3 Macs. I particularly enjoy object-oriented interfaces, and GNOME's, which I use, is excellent. My granddaughter loves her Debian computer with a Daisy on its desktop. (I hardened the security for her.)
My next project will be to examine all the desktops (though I expect to use GNUstep) for the degree to which they are object oriented; that is, can I link a word processor or printer to a folder and have that folder memorize its last settings? (Undisplayable files - starting with a period - hold much information in each Linux folder.)
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31. October 2009 @ 23:19 |
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yup.. I don't only collect malware.......
I got a M$ formatted docx thing.. oo wouldn't handle it.. said it was corrupt. eventually after a lot of searching about I found a command line converter that at least made it readable.
this is the true face of M$ .. take a standard and change it in closed proprietary ways so it will only open on their office 2009 thing..
A lot of us long time free software people are getting less and less keen on gnome.. nasty mono dependencies which are dangerous but not in the way people might expect...
http://boycottnovell.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
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1. November 2009 @ 18:30 |
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Originally posted by scum101:
yup.. I don't only collect malware.......
You'll understand if I comment without having examined the website below. :-)
Originally posted by scum101:
I got a M$ formatted docx thing.. oo wouldn't handle it.. said it was corrupt. eventually after a lot of searching about I found a command line converter that at least made it readable.
It should be readable with a text editor; but if you found a 'converter' that worked, perhaps it was an earlier version. Many organization objected that readers of the final version of .docx wouldn't read the earlier versions, which had been released!
Originally posted by scum101:
this is the true face of M$ .. take a standard and change it in closed proprietary ways so it will only open on their office 2009 thing..
Yes. In its early day, MS modified its OS to cause competing applications to fail. Consequently its breakup. Later, the application division wrote & read standard formats & protocols with an 'accidental' but in the implementation. Programmers who wanted their software to work with MS had to program the 'bugs' in, creating, in essence, a proprietary format free, written by someone else. Standard formats start out as products of hardware companies or consortiums of them. Microsoft participated in DOCX, so I thought it might have a contractual obligation to not 'err' as above. Perhaps I was wrong.
Originally posted by scum101:
A lot of us long time free software people are getting less and less keen on gnome.. nasty mono dependencies which are dangerous but not in the way people might expect...
My pre-school granddaughter says she's experienced no problems; but she uses the 'Synaptic Package Manager' only. Hers is not for 'Flash' or 'Quicktime', for the newer versions require faster video.
GNOME
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1. November 2009 @ 18:45 |
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As I was about to write, before GNOME spontaneously posted my draft...
GNOME has given me no problems, and I love its frills. Any details on what you're referring to? Is the problem the conversion & installation of an application of a different flavor? My GNOME menu has a section with applications written for the 'Motif' interface: it works fine. Occasionally I have to add applications to the menu manually. No problems with its libraries. (The board games Backgammon & Go are beautiful, along with a solitaire game with Mah Jongg tiles.
I'm looking for the ideal OOUI desktop. OS/2's was elegant, and MacOSX is very refresing; but I'd like one that stores, in each folder, configuration files for the applications that wrote the data stored there. Links aren't really recommended, but it would be nice if photos in the 'Photography' folder would print automatically to a photo printer, and letters in the 'Letters' folder print to a B&W printer with letter paper in it. That sort of thing. Any suggestions are recommended.
Oh, mine is an older version of Debian Linux.
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