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Thinking about switching over from Torrents to NEWSGROUPS
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jpizzle
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13. June 2009 @ 02:40 |
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Originally posted by jcalton88:
No problem jpizzle, its not that hard. Just looks like a lot.
You get your server set up right on Grabit?
@BurningAs
Tried to go to xbox sky but its in a different language? I thought it was my browser messing up but thats the only site it does that in... Does it do that to you?
yea got it all set up and working great...maxing out my connection :P
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jcalton88
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13. June 2009 @ 02:52 |
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I love my newsgroups. Makes downloading so much easier and quicker. But because it does max out your connection, its nice to do it when you know you aren't going to be on the computer. Just load a bunch of nzb's and let it go.
I use Grab It but I will say that is one major benefit to NewzBin. It had a speed limit button that you could set at whatever speed you want and when you hit it the downloading would slow to that speed. Very useful if you wanted to be downloading and be on the computer, that way your surfing wouldn't be slow. Then when you were done you could hit the button again and it would be full speed again.
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13. June 2009 @ 07:47 |
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I switched to using Usenet a couple of years ago. It has several advantages over torrents: -
1. I always max out my connection straight away and for the whole duration of the download.
2. I don't have to seed files for days to try and maintain a ratio on a private tracker (cos public trackers are usually always shite). You don't have to share or upload anything at all.
3. Torrents tend to die as time goes on and fewer people are seeding. On Usenet, the speed is the same no matter how long the file has been on the server, and the retention (how long binaries stay on the server before being deleted) on GigaNews is currently 310 days and rising.
4. It's more secure, especially if you use SSL.
The only advantage torrents have over newsgroups is that they're free, although as people have pointed out, Usenet access doesn't have to cost a fortune and some ISPs even offer it for free (although it can be rather limited compared to the paid for options), and there are specialist torrent sites out there that cater to specific needs and you may not find those files on Usenet. For general games/music/movies/TV show/software needs, I'd say Usenet covers 90% of what I want, and the rest I get from blogs or torrents, so it's well worth paying for given the advantages it has.
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13. June 2009 @ 10:04 |
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one other thing I would add is that when i am grabbing nzb's off of newzbin and i look at comments, it always seems like alot of people say that giganews has broken rar's and they had to quickpar them. And in my opinion it alyways seems like thge giganews users that have probs. Also for those of you that want newsleecher, umm... I dunno if this ever occured to you, but it is on the newsgroups. :p
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jpizzle
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13. June 2009 @ 13:55 |
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alright i've been downloading like a mad man but i've come across a lot of trojan infected material. My question is what groups can I trust to release safe content only? eg. Group: alt.binaries.boneless
what groups do the top private torrent trackers get all their content from? I appreciate the help.
Thanx
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jcalton88
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13. June 2009 @ 13:59 |
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not sure about which groups... I have been using newsgroups for a long time and have never once downloaded a virus from them. And I usually have stuff downloading 24/7.
If you are downloading anything with a crack or a activation fix all AV's will see that as a virus.
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jpizzle
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13. June 2009 @ 14:01 |
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yea i know about AV's detecting cracks as trojans but I am getting positive hits on apps without cracks. Infected install apps. Nowadays you can hide malware in almost any file types, even videos. Just dont want to end up in somebody's botnet.
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jcalton88
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13. June 2009 @ 14:16 |
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I can honestly say I've never had one. I'll look and see what groups I am normally downloading from.
There are no real good groups without viruses. I myself haven't came across any. My advice is to always pay attention to file size and if it has comments. If there is more than one version of what I want and one has comments, I read then download. This way I can see from others that have downloaded if it is infected or not.
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jpizzle
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13. June 2009 @ 14:19 |
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Originally posted by jcalton88:
I can honestly say I've never had one. I'll look and see what groups I am normally downloading from.
There are no real good groups without viruses. I myself haven't came across any. My advice is to always pay attention to file size and if it has comments. If there is more than one version of what I want and one has comments, I read then download. This way I can see from others that have downloaded if it is infected or not.
I have been doing that and all I see is a lot of bitching and moaning about incomplete files, why do newsgroups seem to have such a big problem with that? I wouls have that problem with torrents like 1/250
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jcalton88
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13. June 2009 @ 14:22 |
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The incomplete files are normally from people with low retention trying to download files that have been posted forever.
Like with Astraweb, my retention is 270 days. This means I can download anything that has been posted in the last 270 days with very little risk of corrupt files or anything. If I try to download something that was posted 400 days ago, I will get a lot of incomplete files.
People just don't pay attention to post date and think it should download fine.
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jpizzle
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13. June 2009 @ 14:27 |
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thanks for clearing that up for me :)
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13. June 2009 @ 22:46 |
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I hate to ask this here but I honestly dont know how the newsgroups work and would like to see if someone here can help me out. I subscriped to Usenet Newsgroup and 3 others (the other 3 where one time Fees) can soemone help me out getting setup because when I use Grabit the downloads never seem to happen the all fail.
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13. June 2009 @ 22:52 |
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these are typically trustworthy
alt.binaries.boneless
alt.binaries.cd.image
alt.binaries.dvdr
alt.binaries.games
alt.binaries.games.xbox360
alt.binaries.mom ( been getting things here lately )
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jpizzle
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14. June 2009 @ 00:57 |
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Originally posted by homesick:
these are typically trustworthy
alt.binaries.boneless
alt.binaries.cd.image
alt.binaries.dvdr
alt.binaries.games
alt.binaries.games.xbox360
alt.binaries.mom ( been getting things here lately )
homesick thank you soooo much for that i was just ganna ask someone for these. If anyone else has any other "trustworthy" groups i would really appreciate it.
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theridges
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14. June 2009 @ 04:57 |
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Both Torrents and NG's have the Pros and Cons i have used both and this is my take if you will...
Torrents
Public Trackers suck you need to find a good private one which can be hard at the moment since most are always full and are not giving out invitations...on a private tracker you have to keep a good ratio (upload what you download) because thats how torrents work in the first place. depending on the site you can always request older games to be re-uploaded and so On, Also Depending on the Site is your download speed most private trackers will max you out...but that also depends on how many leechers to seeders.
NewsGroups
Not much to say....They cost money not much but that im my mind is the only drawback they also take some getting used to and some computer know how (IRC,new Programs etc.)
the plus side is they always max your speed out.
right now i have been sticking with my torrents and dropped my newsgroup a while back but i remember only paying like 13$ a month for unlimited downloads.
http://www.astraweb.com/
so both work difference with torrents there free but you have to find a good private tracker and share. Newsgroups you have to pay but no sharing and awesome speed..
also i see a lot of people paying for multiple things i dont really know the advantage but i used altbinz to download and thats free so i was paying 13$ for totally unlimted downloads.
for games abgx.net is where you will wanna go...
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14. June 2009 @ 05:36 |
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Originally posted by homesick:
it always seems like alot of people say that giganews has broken rar's and they had to quickpar them. And in my opinion it alyways seems like thge giganews users that have probs.
Which is odd, as the usenet provider that you're using, Power Usenet, is a Giganews reseller.
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jcalton88
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14. June 2009 @ 15:02 |
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Originally posted by Devilen:
I hate to ask this here but I honestly dont know how the newsgroups work and would like to see if someone here can help me out. I subscriped to Usenet Newsgroup and 3 others (the other 3 where one time Fees) can soemone help me out getting setup because when I use Grabit the downloads never seem to happen the all fail.
Do you have your server set up correctly? In the bottom left hand corner when GrabIt is trying to download it should give you a status.
Example:
Connecting to server
Grabbing from (server name)
Things along those lines
You said you subscribed to newgroups but said nothing about servers.
Your ISP may have a free server but mind you it will probably be slow. You can subscribe to another server such as GigaNews, Astraweb.
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14. June 2009 @ 15:10 |
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14. June 2009 @ 15:20 |
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For games, a simple way to find NZBs is to copy the file name for the game you want from here: -
http://www.abgx.net/filename/?ch=6
And paste it into the search field here: -
http://www.binsearch.info/
If it's an older game, make sure you change the "Maximum age of post" drop-down list, then hit search. Put a check mark next to a complete version (you can tell by the size, the number of files, and if the figures next to the game are in red, it's incomplete - it needs to be green), hit the Create NZB button, then just open the NZB and your Usenet client will open and the downloads will begin. It's not a lot different to using torrents.
A better option is a proper indexed site such as Newzbin, because reports are categorised, people can leave comments and it's dead easy to find stuff and browse through categories. It does rely on editors to do the indexing though, so a lot of stuff doesn't get indexed, plus you have to pay to use it although it is very cheap. It's worth it IMO.
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14. June 2009 @ 19:34 |
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I figured it out lastnight about 2am my time. Lol I forgot to put the server names into Grabit and once I did that they worked.
I find it funny though I was doing the Trials on some of the news groups and I went like 3 times over the limit on Giganews.
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jpizzle
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14. June 2009 @ 23:23 |
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i'm trying to find the best client to use, I'm using Grabit beta 4 but it seems unstable and takes forever to repair and extract. I've heard good things about newsleecher, anyone here using it? any other good clients out there? free or crackable would be nice ;)
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14. June 2009 @ 23:37 |
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Originally posted by jpizzle:
i'm trying to find the best client to use, I'm using Grabit beta 4 but it seems unstable and takes forever to repair and extract. I've heard good things about newsleecher, anyone here using it? any other good clients out there? free or crackable would be nice ;)
I thought it was just my computer on the Extract and Repair taking for ever. It also CHEWS up your resources when its doing it.
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jcalton88
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15. June 2009 @ 06:46 |
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Newsleecher is good. All of them eat up resources when extracting and repairing. Its best to have nothing else running and just leave it be while its repairing/extracting. Grab It is stable for me, never had any problems out of it.
I don't use GrabIt to repair or extract, I cut those features off and I use QuickPar to repair and WinRar to extract. Quickpar is in my opinion a little faster at repairing and you can see whats going on and estimated time to completion.
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tavek
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15. June 2009 @ 11:18 |
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I first started newsgroups in 2006, loved it ever since.
I use Giga news, newsbin pro, NZBRUS for my news search cause its catagorized versus binsearch where you take the time to read everything to make sure its a game vs a movie..
All in all I spend no more then $30 a month
Well worth it imo.
Also recomend putting Winrar & QUick Par on your pc, they help alot.
Internet gangster
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15. June 2009 @ 11:48 |
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Right now I am using Giganews my self and like 3 Search sites. I just keep ending up finding things that fail to repair or are completed and they are not that old also only about 50 days or less but oh well.
I like Grabit very simple and easy, never liked WinRar to much always used powerarchiver.
Any way thanks for all the help and advice here for switching to Newsgroups rather than Torrents!
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