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Praetor
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1. June 2004 @ 08:54 |
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Intergated with Unichrome 3D Graphics controller
support 64MB Max shared memory.
Ya i did some research .. your mobo has some obscure (read: crappy), video controller and is prolly configured to use 64MB of system memory as video ram
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cozza1987
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1. June 2004 @ 09:02 |
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Yea my point, they Share the Memory..
I could of found Evidence of my claim bit its 3am in the morning.... lol
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Kamran
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1. June 2004 @ 09:07 |
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Yeah i set that to 32 now when my card comes i will set it to 0.
My question is will i see a HUGE Visual improvements on the games. max payne for instance i play that on the lowest settings am guessing i can now play it at the highest settings now?
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Praetor
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1. June 2004 @ 09:10 |
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Yes you will see a huge difference. Enough for you to say "Im not going to use onboard video ever again". :)
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Kamran
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1. June 2004 @ 09:14 |
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Thank You Praetor now my heart is at rest. well i was wondering how come its so cheap? its a 9600 so it will beat the nvidia fx5200 one easily yet they the same price?
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Praetor
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1. June 2004 @ 09:17 |
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Dont by the GFX5200 at any cost, hell buy the GF4MX if you have to. Ive said this to you twice already: the GFX5200 is crap.
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Kamran
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1. June 2004 @ 09:19 |
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Yeah i know i took your advice and bought the ati one. I was just thinking how come its so cheap. am gonna do some reasearch and see if i can overclock it back to a 9600pro, any help?
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Praetor
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1. June 2004 @ 09:21 |
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The question about cheap was also answered. Its because of the 64bit memory structure.
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Kamran
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1. June 2004 @ 09:22 |
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Sorry my mistake must have missed that, so am guessing there us no way to get that back upto 128?
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Praetor
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1. June 2004 @ 09:46 |
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No.... thats why its cheap.... its a good card, dont get me wrong....just dont expect to run UT2004 @1280x1024 with settings ramped to max and expect 30+fps.
Same goes for the FX5200 -- its a solid card for its price bracket but its performance is seriously lacking. It makes for an excellent business card or for users who play games from time to time and never play the ultra high req. games much.
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Kamran
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1. June 2004 @ 09:49 |
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So in conclusion could i play pretty much any game at a descent rate for a while?
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RedAnt
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1. June 2004 @ 09:51 |
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If I were you I save my money and see if you can get the non-SE version, as all SE cards are the underclocked version of said card (usually GPU that could not reach the minimum specs of said design).
As far as overclocking it, well you might be able to, but spend the extra cash and get a better card (that usually comes with more memory).Better to wait a little bit longer and get a better card(and like that you don't have to update your card as soon.
Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity.
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Kamran
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1. June 2004 @ 09:55 |
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I have never been a gaming person, always used teh onboard graphics but my friends want to play counterstrike so i am gonna start playing that with them. anyway my budget was £50 andas you have already said this beats the other one so am happy
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Praetor
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1. June 2004 @ 09:57 |
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So in conclusion could I play pretty much any game at a descent rate for a while?
You havnt really been clear from the begining as to what you are using your vid. card for primarily.
- If you want gaming performance get a non-SE or a non-MX or a non-GFX5200 version
- If you want performance at at any cost get anything that costs more than $400 USD
- If you want virtually no gaming performance get a business/budget card like the 9200SE, GF4MX, GFX5200 etc
- If you want some gaming performance id's still reccommend you get a non-SE, non-MX, non-GFX5200 card however if your budget doesnt allow for that then the 9200SE and 9600SE will be ok.
You should be ok to play COunterstrike and such... i just didnt want you to think you could, with the 9600se, run out and play, say, FarCry with high details at decent framerate or something :)
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Kamran
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1. June 2004 @ 10:11 |
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Thanks alot Praetor you have cleared it all up for me!
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Praetor
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1. June 2004 @ 10:13 |
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Not a problem - glad i could help! :)
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pbailey
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1. June 2004 @ 23:48 |
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Off the point but don't SiS make the sis630 etc, i thought that was SiS to blame for that...
Matey the card is cheap because the card is cheap, lol. I don't think you should expect too much. An improvement yes, but not able to run all games at max settings. Oh, max payne, then yeah that'll be fine, good luck.
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Praetor
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2. June 2004 @ 06:11 |
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LOL well compared to the onboard chip he's running right now with 64MB shared a 64bit-memory video card is heaven i would imagine! :)
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pbailey
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2. June 2004 @ 17:14 |
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:) yeah improvement for sure. My ti4200 is showing it's age hardcore but i can't afford an improvement/upgrade, i'd get a 5900xt for $260 AUD if i were to buy a new vid card, but only cause i like my games. >:]
LoL i really should read the posts a little better, eh?
It sucks to be poor.
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Praetor
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2. June 2004 @ 21:02 |
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It sucks to be poor.
It sucks even more to be poor, hang out with a girl and have tuition bitching at you :P
Which TI42 are you running, the old/original one? or the newer AGP8X one? I've been told the new one can be OCd (with the proper cooling) by quite a bit.
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Kamran
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3. June 2004 @ 05:00 |
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Got my Card Today! Put on the omega drivers on and am tyring to overclock it, what i wanna know is how do i know if its getting to hot? or what the limit is of the card
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Praetor
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3. June 2004 @ 05:06 |
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Got my Card Today! Put on the omega drivers on and am tyring to overclock it, what I wanna know is how do I know if its getting to hot? or what the limit is of the card
1. Not all cards come with thermal monitors (in fact the only ones i am aware of that come with them are the nvidia gfx cards).
2. As Ive been saying over and over again, OCing is a trial and error thing. Nobody can tell you exacly how much you can squeeze out if it
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Kamran
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3. June 2004 @ 05:16 |
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well i have done it a bit so i guess i wont take it anymore..so if its playing a game ok does that mean its ok? its got no fan?
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Praetor
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3. June 2004 @ 05:18 |
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When a video card goes unstable you will start to notice artifacts in your graphics.... if you really push it all in one jump then you wont have video when you boot.
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pbailey
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3. June 2004 @ 18:28 |
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LOL i have the 64 meg 4x version (original) and the 128mb 8x agp, but it's starting to play up, had it overclocked quite a bit for a while, and the ambient temp here in mt isa can get pretty ridiculous...
Hanging out with chicks can never be a bad thing can it?
And by artifacts that goes for little texture tears where walls join etc, you may not notice it at first so check hard, but once a game will start and there is tearing, just keep backing it off bit by bit till the artifacts are gone, like praetor said, completely trial and error.
Whilst on the topic of o/cing, did the celeron 300a ever receive an award for overclockability? Could get that sucker up to 550 easy, without any extra cooling.
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