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9. July 2004 @ 18:30 |
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I think you should go for the barton 3200.
If you take a look at Praetors specs you'll note that he has a XP2500 Barton running at XP3200 specs. I have one at home doing the same. The difference in price is about $110-120 which is equal to a stick of memory, a 120 gig hard disk, faster video card, or spread around and improve a couple of components.
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Praetor
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9. July 2004 @ 20:53 |
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Yeah indeed the only reason i used the XP3200 with Option 02 because I had to spend some money.... hell if i had to I can spec an XP2500 system for just over $275 ;-)
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matty8887
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10. July 2004 @ 02:42 |
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Well get a barton 2500 and overclock it and then use the money saved to get more ram or bigger hard drive.
-Xbox v1.0, X-ecuter2 lite, EVO-X DASHBOARD,
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Praetor
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10. July 2004 @ 07:29 |
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Exactly but even if that's not the route chosen, it just goes to show that you can get a fairly decentup for the sub-$600 range :P
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The_OGS
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20. July 2004 @ 21:39 |
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Let's see here, budget conscious, no PCI-X...
Athlon64-2800 (512k)
Asus K8V (754) Via K8T800
512MB PC3200
80GB WD 7200/8MB
NEC Dual-Layer Burner
ATI Radeon 9600XT
Antec Sonata case, 2x120mm (1 incl.)
w/ 380W Antec low-noise PS
Extra 120mm fan
3.5" floppy ;-)
I get $1195. (CDN)
Sterling 490 Pounds
$895. (USD)
It can't just be budget-conscious; it's gotta be Dream Machine too! What am I missing?
I would like this type of A64 system for myself...
Single most expensive piece listed is: CPU
Praetor what's up with this 'Socket 754' - is it gonna stick around or is it just passin' through?
L8R
ABit AB9 Pro
Intel Core 2 Duo E6420 @ 2.4GHz
2GB OCZ PC2-6400 Platinum XTC R2
ATI Radeon X1900XT 512MB
Enermax Liberty 620W
320GB/16MB WD, 150GB/16MB Raptor
Plextor PX-755SA DVD (SATA)
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Praetor
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20. July 2004 @ 22:12 |
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What am I missing
Maybe a sound card? ('course I didnt spec one either :P) ... just something worth mentioning.
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Praetor what's up with this 'Socket 754' - is it gonna stick around or is it just passin' through
Unless i'm horribly mistaken, Socket754 has come and gone. S754 was the initial inception of the consumer A64 line and was followed by the Socket940 which was drawn from the server line. It has since been finalized to Socket939 for consumers and Socket940 for commercial applications :)
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The_OGS
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20. July 2004 @ 22:37 |
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Yeah that's what I thought I'd heard, somewhere on the outskirts of my (pathetic) memory...
Good old SocketA has been a solid standard, for years now - very comfortable.
So what; you wouldn't touch the 754 or whaddya think?
OnBoard sound is fairly good now, my ABit is great with the NVIDIA SoundStorm setup.
We don't have to spec NICs either (life is good!)
LoL - L8R
ABit AB9 Pro
Intel Core 2 Duo E6420 @ 2.4GHz
2GB OCZ PC2-6400 Platinum XTC R2
ATI Radeon X1900XT 512MB
Enermax Liberty 620W
320GB/16MB WD, 150GB/16MB Raptor
Plextor PX-755SA DVD (SATA)
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Praetor
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21. July 2004 @ 10:49 |
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So what; you wouldn't touch the 754 or whaddya think?
Dunno ... i'd prolly switch to a Socket754 to replace my XP2500 here but thats only if its ridiculously cheap or better yet, free. If i had to pay my own money for it ... probably not. Of course, in the context of a budget machine, if the Socket754s can be had, it makes for a better machine than the AthlonXPs (provided the budgets are roughly equal)
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21. July 2004 @ 14:41 |
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i'd prolly switch to a Socket754 to replace my XP2500 here but thats only if its ridiculously cheap
My budget secret to building since 97, wait until the current best is facing obsolescence, then pick them up for a song and tweak the hell out of them.
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conny119
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18. August 2004 @ 13:19 |
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i need some advice on tthis budget PC will a 400 PSU be enough also what overclockin possiblities
will it have? i know the graphics card isn't the best ever but it gets the job done
graphics card gainward Fx Pro/660 Gainward Fx Powerpack! Pro/660 AGPx 8 TV-DVI Fx5200 £37.41
mother board Asus A7N8X-X SKT Asus A7N8X-X SKT A Nforce2 AGP 41.93
RAM GENERIC (unamed) 512 MB, 333 £51.64
memory, hard drive Seagate Barracuda Seagate Barracuda 80Gb 7200rpm £39.29
CPU, processor AMD ATHLON AMD ATHLON XP2500+ 333MHZ FSB 512 L2 Cache Barton CPU - OEM £41.56
heat sink and cooler Arctic Cooling Arctic Cooling Copper Silent 2l (blue Light) (maximum support XP3400) £8.08
network card Netgear Netgear PCI 10/100 Adapter £2.30
case JNC 4JA 8654BL JNC 4JA 8654BL 400w Grey Case With Front Bubble Light, USB, Audio and Firewire £16.68
Liteon 16x48 IDE DVD-ROM Drive - OEM £11.58
which is all for about £250 GBP or $456 USD
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Kamran
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19. August 2004 @ 11:20 |
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I need help in finding a system for my little brother and sister. I need to build a a pc without montior under £150. I have got this from ebuyer.co.uk i livein the uk so please people help me build one under £150 and the closer it gets to £100 the better. I want a dvd player and cd rewriter in it and i have got that in the under £150 price range. Just bare in mind am in the uk
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The_OGS
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19. August 2004 @ 12:49 |
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Kamran I have a nice AMD Athlon 550 on Asus K7V (Slot A) that is in your price range ($300 CDN = 120 Pounds)
But you're in the wrong forum with those prices :-)
We're dreamin' about newer, affordable PCs in here...
ABit AB9 Pro
Intel Core 2 Duo E6420 @ 2.4GHz
2GB OCZ PC2-6400 Platinum XTC R2
ATI Radeon X1900XT 512MB
Enermax Liberty 620W
320GB/16MB WD, 150GB/16MB Raptor
Plextor PX-755SA DVD (SATA)
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conny119
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19. August 2004 @ 12:58 |
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ebuyer is the cheapest you will find in the UK you could be looking for months and still not find anything cheaper than ebuyer.
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Kamran
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19. August 2004 @ 15:30 |
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well praetor told me ask here and locked my other post. i guess ur right about ebuyer though
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Praetor
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21. August 2004 @ 13:18 |
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But you're in the wrong forum with those prices :-)
How so?? Thats a really low price bracket which is why i suggested he look here :)
Kamran, a site you might want to look into: http://www.overclockers.co.uk :)
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Kamran
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21. August 2004 @ 13:29 |
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Thanx Praetor
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Praetor
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23. August 2004 @ 15:10 |
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Mobo
ECS K7S5A Pro (35) or ASUS A7V8X-X (35)
The ASUS is lightyears better however you'll be able to haggle the price down on the ECS much easier
VIDEO
TNT2 32MB (17)
Radeon9200SE 128MB(27)
GFX5200 256MB (38)
I guess it depends on what your needs are .. u can most likely nail the price for the decrepit TNT2 down
CPU
Palomino 2000+ (42)
TBredA 2200+ (47)
Barton2500+ (53)
The Barton is the best one there however it'll only be working at full capacity on the ASUS board, also the Palo and TBredA you can prolly haggle down easily.
HDD
40GB 2MB 7200 (33)
80GB 2MB 7200 (38)
You can probably drop the price on the 40GB
All prices based on 0.423/2.364 exchange rate CAD-GBP and done with very little research lol (i just called up a couple stores and checked really, nothing fancy)
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wizard479
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19. September 2004 @ 16:11 |
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Just thourght i'd post my new budget system here...
AMD Athlon 2800+ Barton
ASUS A7N8X-E Deluxe
OCZ 400mhz Dual Channel DDR kit 2x256 mb
Fudin ATA868 Case
Aerocool Extreme Heatsink w/fan
ATI Radeon 9600 XT
Plus LED Fans and Cold Cathodes(not part of budget, but what the heck right?)
AMD Athlon 2800+ Barton
ASUS A7N8X-E Deluxe
OCZ 2x256mb 400mhz Dual Channel DDR
ATI Radeon 9600XT
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Coop91RS
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20. September 2004 @ 18:18 |
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Hello. Its time for me to build another computer. I found this site to be loads of help. I'm kinda strapped for cash and wondering if I could save a few bucks here and there. I would like to have some reasons as to why, if any, changes you would make. Thanks :)
Processor: AMD Athlon XP 3200 - 400MHz CPUFSB Socket A Processor OEM = $112
Fan/Heatsink: THERMALTAKE VOLCANO12, SOCKET A/370/462, UPTO XP 3400+,THERMAL SENSOR = $34.00
Motherboard: ASUS A7N8X-X = $64.00
Ram: 512 MB (2 pcs 256) DDR (400) PC-3200 Corsair (TwinX512-3200C2PT) = $115
Video Card: MSI FX5700LE-TD128 nVidia GeForce FX 5700LE 128MB DDR with TV Out = $96.00
HDD: Maxtor DiamondMax 80.0GB 7200RPM ATA133 Hard Drive 8.9ms Seek Time = $63.50
Case: Mecca Black ATX Mid Tower Case W/ Installed Spider Window = $27.00
PSU: Thermaltake POLO12 Purepower 410W Series Black For AMD and Intel ATX 12V 3 in 1 CPU Cooler = $70.00
Total: $581.50
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svt54
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21. September 2004 @ 16:24 |
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Well what started as me just wanting to OC my processor has turned into an overhaul, after finding out my 1800XP palomino isnt the best to OC. I am making several changes and wanted some input as far as what some of you think.
Existing parts to be reused:
Western Digital 80GB 7200rpm ATA133 HDD (cache unknown)
Samsung SM-325B CDRW/DVD-ROM
I/O MAGIC IDVDRW8D Dual format 8x DVDR/RW
MSI GeForce 4 Ti4200 128MB w/ 8x AGP
Volcano 11+ HSF
512MB DDR2700 single stick of i guess "stock" ram
New Parts to be used:
Processor AMD Athlon 2500+ XP Barton core
Mobo ASUS A7N8X-X w/ Nvidia nforce2 chipset
case http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?description=11-156-140&DEPA=1
Not sure on that case, just like the wicked look of it ;). If anyone has a better idea on a case let me know. I am looking for something to cool better than the piece of crap I got now, and would like to use the PSU that comes w/ it to keep costs down. I am open to suggestions.
My biggest question here is this. I do play games occasionally, but mostly older stuff like Counter-Strike. My main use of this PC is backing up DVDs and web surfing.
Which of these should I get with the remaining roughly 120 USD, I have left?
1. Nvidia FX5700 128mb Video card
2. Radeon 9800SE 128mb Video card
3. OCZ Enhanced Latency Series Dual Channel Platinum 256x2 DDR PC-3200
4. Maxtor 160gb 7200rpm 8mb IDE HDD
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svt54
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23. September 2004 @ 18:25 |
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My 2500 barton and a A7N8X are on the way. I still haven't ordered a case, and would love suggestions on that. Also I am still up in the air on which of the other upgrades I should get first. Any help is appreciated.
"If it ain't broke...you're not trying hard enough!!!"
"If you think I'm an idiot now, you should see me when I'm sober"
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ianski7
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21. October 2004 @ 09:55 |
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Hey!
If your going with Intel based chipsets the P4P800 is the better choice for straight performance. It's based on the 865PE MCH and the ICH5. The 865PE will handle 800fsb speeds with ease.
The P4P8-X is based on the older 865P MCH and will only handle 800mhz fsb speed when overclocked.
As Praetor suggested the P4P800 is well worth the extra cabbage.
The other great feature of both these boards is that they support Intel's 478pin socket. When I first bought the 800deluxe I was low on cash and dropped a 2.6ghz Celleron for 115 bucks. When I had enough cash I dropped a 3.0ghz P4. This board will also support the Prescott.
Because of the great flexibility, I opted for the PC 3200. It wont reach it's full potential with a Celleron but when the P4 drops she screams!!!!
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16. January 2005 @ 16:31 |
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here's another cheap system (all sale prices):
EZMedia Chassis ($10)
AMD Athlon 2800+ ($60)
ECS K7VTA3 Mobo ($40)
Kingston 512 MB PC 2700 RAM ($50)
80 GB HD ($20)
Thermaltake Fan 4200 RPM for AMD CPUs ($10)
LiteOn 16x Dual Layer DVD+/-RW Burner ($40)
16x DVD-ROM ($10)
Visiontek 9200SE Video Card ($40)
Total: $280
Rating: 6/10
Price wise Rating: 9/10
Console: PS2 v7, 8MB Nyko MC, 32MB Max MC, 16MB Gameshark MC, Multitap, Sony Controller, Nyko Controller, AirFlow Controller
Chip: DMS4 E.Z.I. Pro, ToxicOS v0.41, 100GB HDD
Handheld: PSP Firmware v1.5, 32MB MS Pro Duo, 2GB MS Pro Duo
HomeBrew: DevHook v0.46 w/ GUI Mod & USB Mod, Firmware v2.71 Emulated
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soccerboi
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27. January 2005 @ 16:06 |
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Here's A Great Budget Conscious Dream Gaming Machine!!
MotherBoard
Asus A8V Deluxe Motherboard $126
Processor
AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Processor $196
Graphics Card
MSI Radeon 9550 Video Card (256 MB AGP) $77
Case
Powmax CP5014HL1 Silver/Blue ATX Mid Tower $45
DVD Drive
Lite-On LTD-163 DVD-ROM $19
Hard Drive
Western Digital Caviar WD800BB 80GB Hard Drive $47
Floppy
around $10
Fan
Around $20
And for a total of $540!!!!
All prices taken from Pricegrabber.com, not from sale prices!
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soccerboi
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27. January 2005 @ 16:23 |
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Heres an even cheaper one if you are on an extreme budget.
MotherBoard
Asus A7V8X-X Motherboard $41
Processor
AMD Athlon XP 2000+ (1.67Ghz, 256KB, 266Mhz, Socket A) $56
RAM+
Kingston 512MB PC2700 DDR DIMM Memory $70
Graphics Card
MSI GeForce MX4000 Video Card $31
Case
Powmax CP5014HL1 Silver/Blue ATX Mid Tower $45
DVD Drive+
Lite-On LTD-163 DVD-ROM $19
Hard Drive+
Seagate 50.1GB SCSI Ultra2 8.2MS 7200RPM Barracuda $47
Floppy
around $10
Fan
Around $20
And for a total of $339!!!!
All prices taken from Pricegrabber.com.
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